Flying Clog Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 There was a white line across the road, like there should have been a STOP sign next to it. Maybe there was no sign, but this is Thailand. A sane person would treat it as a stop junction, or at the very least a yield. The Thai bloke was in the right, and the idiot septic got what he deserved - bang to rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 There was a white line across the road, like there should have been a STOP sign next to it. Maybe there was no sign, but this is Thailand. A sane person would treat it as a stop junction, or at the very least a yield. The Thai bloke was in the right, and the idiot septic got what he deserved - bang to rights. Sorry, but the white line does not mean 'give way', even on roads with right of way there can be a white line in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 There was a white line across the road, like there should have been a STOP sign next to it. Maybe there was no sign, but this is Thailand. A sane person would treat it as a stop junction, or at the very least a yield. The Thai bloke was in the right, and the idiot septic got what he deserved - bang to rights. Sorry, but the white line does not mean 'give way', even on roads with right of way there can be a white line in Thailand. Correct, it does not mean give way. It means stop and give way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) There was a white line across the road, like there should have been a STOP sign next to it. Maybe there was no sign, but this is Thailand. A sane person would treat it as a stop junction, or at the very least a yield. The Thai bloke was in the right, and the idiot septic got what he deserved - bang to rights. Sorry, but the white line does not mean 'give way', even on roads with right of way there can be a white line in Thailand. Correct, it does not mean give way. It means stop and give way Please learn the rules before you go on the road. You're totally wrong. In this case the car should have given way BTW because he was on a minor road. He came from the left, which in Thailand in general has right of way, but only on roads of equal importance. Edited January 14, 2015 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Clog Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 stevenl - What planet are you on? There are no traffic rules in Thailand that I'm aware of. So what I'm saying is a white line across the road should be treated with extreme caution because 95% of people on the roads in Thailand won't have a clue what it means, as proven by the posts above, and present company included. The ONLY solution is to drive defensively - ie. yield for a white line across the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) stevenl - What planet are you on? There are no traffic rules in Thailand that I'm aware of. So what I'm saying is a white line across the road should be treated with extreme caution because 95% of people on the roads in Thailand won't have a clue what it means, as proven by the posts above, and present company included. The ONLY solution is to drive defensively - ie. yield for a white line across the road! Yes, agree with that. So where does that leave your earlier statement 'the Thai bloke was in the right'? Edited January 14, 2015 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdrwdrwd Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 There was a white line across the road, like there should have been a STOP sign next to it. Maybe there was no sign, but this is Thailand. A sane person would treat it as a stop junction, or at the very least a yield. The Thai bloke was in the right, and the idiot septic got what he deserved - bang to rights. Sorry, but the white line does not mean 'give way', even on roads with right of way there can be a white line in Thailand. Looked to me like there were traffic lights but that they weren't working, and that the line is for where to stop when the lights are on red. It's not a 'give way' marking, it is a stop here when the lights are red marking. That said, the biker was dumb, he was going too fast, and as the traffic lights were broken he should have been extra careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogan Koori Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 I was just heading down to Kata Noi for a swim and i just saw 2 idiot Poms in a rented jeep from Patong cut this truck off. The truck tipped blocking the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I was just heading down to Kata Noi for a swim and i just saw 2 idiot Poms in a rented jeep from Patong cut this truck off. The truck tipped blocking the road. Wasn't this yesterday, or have there been two concrete trucks flip over at this same spot? I saw something similar yesterday on a local Facebook group (BTW it took many hours to clear the road). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I was just heading down to Kata Noi for a swim and i just saw 2 idiot Poms in a rented jeep from Patong cut this truck off. The truck tipped blocking the road. Was there a collision? If not, did the Jeep stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yeah heard about this one. The Brits fled the scene but those Jeeps stand out like dogs balls. Everyone with half a brain knows they only get hired from Patong with it blazoned across the hood. They are training at AKA gym supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yeah heard about this one. The Brits fled the scene but those Jeeps stand out like dogs balls. Everyone with half a brain knows they only get hired from Patong with it blazoned across the hood. They are training at AKA gym supposedly. Do those jeeps have any insurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Do those jeeps have any insurance? These Jeeps from these roadside guys only have the 'you pay everything' contract for these older jeeps. Much like the Jet Ski guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 stevenl - What planet are you on? There are no traffic rules in Thailand that I'm aware of. What a "strange" and "interesting" comment - you will be made aware of the rules at the first problem you have ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 stevenl - What planet are you on? There are no traffic rules in Thailand that I'm aware of. What a "strange" and "interesting" comment - you will be made aware of the rules at the first problem you have ;-) Yes, and the first rule is: Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Inflammatory posts between members have been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) Yeah heard about this one. The Brits fled the scene but those Jeeps stand out like dogs balls. Everyone with half a brain knows they only get hired from Patong with it blazoned across the hood. They are training at AKA gym supposedly. Shouldn't be too hard for the BiB to track the vehicle and driver down. The driver of the cement truck will give the colour of the jeep, then all they have to do is go and see the vendors and ask for the passports of those who rented that color jeep, from any of them. That will be a short list. Someone's holiday will be cut short. Edited February 19, 2015 by NamKangMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 stevenl - What planet are you on? There are no traffic rules in Thailand that I'm aware of. What a "strange" and "interesting" comment - you will be made aware of the rules at the first problem you have ;-) Yes, and the first rule is: Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody. Complete nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yes, and the first rule is: Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody. Complete nonsense. I am not so sure this is nonsense. I would say that this 'rule' is the expected outcome if the other party is considered 'rich' and has money to pay. Really does not matter if Farang or Thai. Naturally the 'rich' Thai has the language advantage and connections to win the case. From my own experience and with a Thai wife to argue the case, I have never paid when the other party was in the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yes, and the first rule is: Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody. Complete nonsense.I am not so sure this is nonsense. I would say that this 'rule' is the expected outcome if the other party is considered 'rich' and has money to pay. Really does not matter if Farang or Thai. Naturally the 'rich' Thai has the language advantage and connections to win the case. From my own experience and with a Thai wife to argue the case, I have never paid when the other party was in the wrong.Yes, that can be correct. But that is completely different from the wordings of nkm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yes, and the first rule is: Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody. Complete nonsense.I am not so sure this is nonsense. I would say that this 'rule' is the expected outcome if the other party is considered 'rich' and has money to pay. Really does not matter if Farang or Thai. Naturally the 'rich' Thai has the language advantage and connections to win the case. From my own experience and with a Thai wife to argue the case, I have never paid when the other party was in the wrong.Yes, that can be correct. But that is completely different from the wordings of nkm. "Yes, that can be correct." -so, you condede that it has happened in the past, will continue to happen in the future, an therefore, could happen to any farang involved in a motor vehicle accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I thought it might be an idea for people to post pics of accidents around the island. I was actually on my bike today after training trying to get a photo of a bar girl next to me on her bike... when I saw these 2 Russians get sconned by some drunk Pom. Here is the result. It's just at the entrance to Tiger Muay Thai street. Did you get off your bike and go ask what nationality they all were, with your breathalyzer in tow ? Must admit, an elaboration on how BK sussed an intoxicated Brit driver would have been helpful. Given he was at traffic lights, I'm assuming there wasn't a great deal of time for BK to conduct an investigation to come to that conclusion. Since when do TVF readers need time to reach a conclusion? Or evidence, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkey_rich Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yes, and the first rule is: Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody. Complete nonsense.I am not so sure this is nonsense. I would say that this 'rule' is the expected outcome if the other party is considered 'rich' and has money to pay. Really does not matter if Farang or Thai. Naturally the 'rich' Thai has the language advantage and connections to win the case. From my own experience and with a Thai wife to argue the case, I have never paid when the other party was in the wrong.Yes, that can be correct. But that is completely different from the wordings of nkm. Can't see that much difference. Every foreigner is thought to be rich. So ends up paying for everything which has just happened to two people I know. The one was hit by a drunk 74 year old who could hardly see. no lights ,no brakes, no license ,no insurance. Even though my friends Thai wife was with him he ended up paying for hospital, car ,bike and was then asked to give the family a gift i.e money. -----joke. So you must have had a few accidents to be so knowledgeable (as usual ) on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Don't look at the post if you don't want to, it's still a free world. And becoming less "free" by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Complete nonsense.I am not so sure this is nonsense. I would say that this 'rule' is the expected outcome if the other party is considered 'rich' and has money to pay. Really does not matter if Farang or Thai. Naturally the 'rich' Thai has the language advantage and connections to win the case. From my own experience and with a Thai wife to argue the case, I have never paid when the other party was in the wrong.Yes, that can be correct. But that is completely different from the wordings of nkm. Can't see that much difference. Every foreigner is thought to be rich. So ends up paying for everything which has just happened to two people I know. The one was hit by a drunk 74 year old who could hardly see. no lights ,no brakes, no license ,no insurance. Even though my friends Thai wife was with him he ended up paying for hospital, car ,bike and was then asked to give the family a gift i.e money. -----joke. So you must have had a few accidents to be so knowledgeable (as usual ) on the subject. No difference and you're a native English speaker? Yes, I know from experience the statement is utter BS. There are many, many things to it, e.g.: tourist or not, own insurance representative on the spot, Thai speaking yes or no, Thai society changing in this respect, guilability of the persons involved to sign something they don't agree to, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 @ stevenl Wow - none of the things you mention address who is actually at fault in the accident. Even you are suggesting the farang will be deemed to be at fault, due to the things you mention? Yes, that's about as far as the investigation into the accident will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 @ stevenl Wow - none of the things you mention address who is actually at fault in the accident. Even you are suggesting the farang will be deemed to be at fault, due to the things you mention? Yes, that's about as far as the investigation into the accident will go. Well, of course the first thing is: in principle he who is at fault will be blamed, but we had passed that stage already in the discussion. The second thing is, that sometimes there are exceptions here: in the rare occasion that the foreigner (not farang, nothing to do with skin colour) is blamed the end result will depend on "tourist or not, own insurance representative on the spot, Thai speaking yes or no, Thai society changing in this respect, guilability of the persons involved to sign something they don't agree to, etc." All a far, far cry from "Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 @ stevenl Wow - none of the things you mention address who is actually at fault in the accident. Even you are suggesting the farang will be deemed to be at fault, due to the things you mention? Yes, that's about as far as the investigation into the accident will go. Well, of course the first thing is: in principle he who is at fault will be blamed, but we had passed that stage already in the discussion. The second thing is, that sometimes there are exceptions here: in the rare occasion that the foreigner (not farang, nothing to do with skin colour) is blamed the end result will depend on "tourist or not, own insurance representative on the spot, Thai speaking yes or no, Thai society changing in this respect, guilability of the persons involved to sign something they don't agree to, etc." All a far, far cry from "Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody". So, tell me, Somchai with his somtam cart crashes into you - automatically, who do you think the police are going to look at getting payment from, whether rightly, or wrongly, knowing Somchai hasn't got two baht to his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) @ stevenl Wow - none of the things you mention address who is actually at fault in the accident. Even you are suggesting the farang will be deemed to be at fault, due to the things you mention? Yes, that's about as far as the investigation into the accident will go. Well, of course the first thing is: in principle he who is at fault will be blamed, but we had passed that stage already in the discussion. The second thing is, that sometimes there are exceptions here: in the rare occasion that the foreigner (not farang, nothing to do with skin colour) is blamed the end result will depend on "tourist or not, own insurance representative on the spot, Thai speaking yes or no, Thai society changing in this respect, guilability of the persons involved to sign something they don't agree to, etc." All a far, far cry from "Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody". So, tell me, Somchai with his somtam cart crashes into you - automatically, who do you think the police are going to look at getting payment from, whether rightly, or wrongly, knowing Somchai hasn't got two baht to his name? Want me to repeat again and again? He who is to blame. And that is me speaking from experience. Edited February 20, 2015 by LivinginKata Flame removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterocket Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 @ stevenl Wow - none of the things you mention address who is actually at fault in the accident. Even you are suggesting the farang will be deemed to be at fault, due to the things you mention? Yes, that's about as far as the investigation into the accident will go. Well, of course the first thing is: in principle he who is at fault will be blamed, but we had passed that stage already in the discussion. The second thing is, that sometimes there are exceptions here: in the rare occasion that the foreigner (not farang, nothing to do with skin colour) is blamed the end result will depend on "tourist or not, own insurance representative on the spot, Thai speaking yes or no, Thai society changing in this respect, guilability of the persons involved to sign something they don't agree to, etc." All a far, far cry from "Farang always in the wrong, and must pay for everything and everybody". So, tell me, Somchai with his somtam cart crashes into you - automatically, who do you think the police are going to look at getting payment from, whether rightly, or wrongly, knowing Somchai hasn't got two baht to his name? Call insurance and let them deal with it. Up to them if they pay out or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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