Am I being unreasonable ?

[In Search of Space]

Do as a Thai guy would deal with it.

well to be able to do that, you'd need to be the boss of the house, the one who has set and wears the pants.

Now is it any wonder why the sh!te happens mostly to farangs in Thailand????

It was not nice what the OP's sister in law did, taking the her full entitlement, but start with the wife who had a hand in it by allowing it all to happen.

She had as much to do with it. Only happened after OP left, how bloody convenient.

The thought went through my gray cells that "family" were doing stuff............

The wife is as pissed off as I am, but she wants to let it go. Her sister kee-konged her(apologies to any Thais here for my bad use of the language) out of any share in the mothers house when she died 10 years ago, so I am positive there's no complicity, just a younger sister who thinks she is clever

[AYJAYDEE]

Do as a Thai guy would deal with it.

well to be able to do that, you'd need to be the boss of the house, the one who has set and wears the pants.

Now is it any wonder why the sh!te happens mostly to farangs in Thailand????

It was not nice what the OP's sister in law did, taking the her full entitlement, but start with the wife who had a hand in it by allowing it all to happen.

She had as much to do with it. Only happened after OP left, how bloody convenient.

The thought went through my gray cells that "family" were doing stuff............

The wife is as pissed off as I am, but she wants to let it go. Her sister kee-konged her(apologies to any Thais here for my bad use of the language) out of any share in the mothers house when she died 10 years ago, so I am positive there's no complicity, just a younger sister who thinks she is clever

apparently she is. she got your wife for half a house and you for 25000 km.

[In Search of Space]

Do as a Thai guy would deal with it.

well to be able to do that, you'd need to be the boss of the house, the one who has set and wears the pants.

Now is it any wonder why the sh!te happens mostly to farangs in Thailand????

It was not nice what the OP's sister in law did, taking the her full entitlement, but start with the wife who had a hand in it by allowing it all to happen.

She had as much to do with it. Only happened after OP left, how bloody convenient.

The thought went through my gray cells that "family" were doing stuff............

The wife is as pissed off as I am, but she wants to let it go. Her sister kee-konged her(apologies to any Thais here for my bad use of the language) out of any share in the mothers house when she died 10 years ago, so I am positive there's no complicity, just a younger sister who thinks she is clever

apparently she is. she got your wife for half a house and you for 25000 km.

One fifth of a house & 25,000 km, Minus a jet-wash that she thought was hers & minus a service cost, but no more, ever again

Until next time !

[mick01827]

Sounds like your ride was rented out.........

But this shit is normal. You are right to kick up a fuss so perhaps they will not take the piss in the future.....

oh they'll definitely repeat their actions again if they get the chance, I've come to realise thais aren't the cleverest bunch, in one ear out the other.

[Straight8]

and what about driving the car without insurance,as they did not have permission to use it the insurance would be invalidted and what about twocing taking without the owners consent ,grow some balls get the police involved,i bet they wont do it again

'get the police involved'

what a silly suggestion ... good way to split up the whole family and the OP divorce. All for a borrowed car and a jet washer ... glad I'm not your wife .. :-)

but it seems you're already someone else's b.. i mean wife.

[AYJAYDEE]

Sounds like your ride was rented out.........

But this shit is normal. You are right to kick up a fuss so perhaps they will not take the piss in the future.....

oh they'll definitely repeat their actions again if they get the chance, I've come to realise thais aren't the cleverest bunch, in one ear out the other.

nice racist generaliztion there buddy

[dotpoom]

I believe the average driver puts up around 12,000 Kilometers a year....two years driving in five months. For sure any reasonable person would be annoyed at that....from my point of view you are not being unreasonable at all. Not sure the best way to handle it though,sometimes I ask myself am I willing and prepared to take on the "battle".Foe certain I'd let them know my feelings on the matter ....after that, life is short and at this stage I'd rather be happy than right.

[In Search of Space]

Sounds like your ride was rented out.........

But this shit is normal. You are right to kick up a fuss so perhaps they will not take the piss in the future.....

oh they'll definitely repeat their actions again if they get the chance, I've come to realise thais aren't the cleverest bunch, in one ear out the other.

nice racist generaliztion there buddy

This incident is down to personal traits, not national generalisations. In my view I am quite happy as I never have to see the SIL again, that is worth a lot, believe me

[Si Thea01]

No, you are not being unreasonable by being a little peeved when you return after 5 months and find over a years worth of additional driving on the vehicle. But to be coming to Thailand for 30 years and not understand the Thai way is totally unrealistic. What have you been doing, walking around wearing blinkers. Do you speak and read Thai, you should after this length of time and maybe it would help you understand but it you do not then you will, as you say, know nothing of Thailand, and how the family share things, then what can one say? Do you know what you wife told her sister about the objects, did she give her permission to use them? I'd suggest you ask her but be prepared for the excuse book to come out, after all it is her sister, not yours. Her sister has got you measure, that's for sure, but if you had laid down the law before you left, maybe you would not be complaining now.

[In Search of Space]

No, you are not being unreasonable by being a little peeved when you return after 5 months and find over a years worth of additional driving on the vehicle. But to be coming to Thailand for 30 years and not understand the Thai way is totally unrealistic. What have you been doing, walking around wearing blinkers. Do you speak and read Thai, you should after this length of time and maybe it would help you understand but it you do not then you will, as you say, know nothing of Thailand, and how the family share things, then what can one say? Do you know what you wife told her sister about the objects, did she give her permission to use them? I'd suggest you ask her but be prepared for the excuse book to come out, after all it is her sister, not yours. Her sister has got you measure, that's for sure, but if you had laid down the law before you left, maybe you would not be complaining now.

A lot of your comments have been answered in the thread

[smotherb]

Yo would say I agree with you all, only to be expected. In my defence I did not know that the wife had left the car at her sisters as she left after me. When she told me, I knida knew what would happen, but I thought 25,000 km was a little excessive. If the jet-wash was isolated, I would have let it go.

BTW sister lived in Switzerland for 20 years, so has plenty of cash, plus she has her own car

you are lucky the SIL was able to get your car back from the taxi service to which she leased it

[Bigfarang1948]

if you been coming here for 30 years and you didnt expect that, you been living in a cave. unreasonable? perhaps not. unrealistic? oh yeah!

Of course, you are being unreasonable, and you have been coming here long enough to know you married the entire family. Just how do you think you are going to make your sister in law pay half your brake pads and your pressure washer or whatever? That is a pipe dream you can forget, and if you press the issue your wife is going to side with her family alll the time. You are here just to give her money, let her relatives use your car and tools too so sorry about that. WHY did you not keep the keys to your car in the first place?

[In Search of Space]

if you been coming here for 30 years and you didnt expect that, you been living in a cave. unreasonable? perhaps not. unrealistic? oh yeah!

Of course, you are being unreasonable, and you have been coming here long enough to know you married the entire family. Just how do you think you are going to make your sister in law pay half your brake pads and your pressure washer or whatever? That is a pipe dream you can forget, and if you press the issue your wife is going to side with her family alll the time. You are here just to give her money, let her relatives use your car and tools too so sorry about that. WHY did you not keep the keys to your car in the first place?

I think most of your comments have been answered, but just to set your mind at ease,

I will never fight a corner that I know I cannot win, we are talking about characters and personalities, not necessarily nationalities and I know the wife and the SIL very well. My wife will never go on her sisters side against me, I know that and she is possibly more upset than me about it all. I know her sister can pay and I am 90 % sure I can get her to pay for the service at least, if I push it. I don't need the money, but I will force it as much as possible, but the best thing about it all is that I now have a very good excuse to never see SIL again, that alone is worth millions.

As mentioned before, wife left Thailand after me and she took the car other sisters as it is close to the airport, in theory a good idea, in practice, not.

[maidee]

farang can buy new one, or it was your wife's car (in her name) and her's to give to be used

is what you should have learned long time ago

[In Search of Space]

farang can buy new one, or it was your wife's car (in her name) and her's to give to be used

is what you should have learned long time ago

If you read the post above, I think it's already covered

[KonaRain]

Hawaiian Creole..pidgin: 'No say nothin'..just smile..'

You gain much face..?

[natway09]

Good Luck, your gonna need it to chang the mindset

[natway09]

Incidently, whats it got to do with you anyway, they think it all belongs to your wife

[Johnny S]

You learned it now: Thais steal ...

[Razzler1973]

Surely you should be annoyed with your wife and not the sis-in-law? It's not like she came round and drove off in your car, your wife let her. Speak with her about it.

The Sister asked and she got