gb33 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It's all about the parents involvement. May I ask why your kid is already in school at 2.8 years old? It's a tragedy that these kids are starting to be forced to confirm at such a young age. They should be with a parent until 5 at least! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartempion Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Parenting... Where on earth do they teach parenting??? Correct answer: Nowhere. Result: 99.9% of parents have no clue what education is about. Edited January 22, 2015 by tartempion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Another Thai-bashing thread from our resident basher, the bower boy. How can you possibly know, at two to three years of age, that "the Farang kid is absolutely miles and miles ahead of every other kid in that Kindergarten." Is he doing advanced calculus? Is he publishing research papers? The answer is you don't know. But being as hopelessly biased as you are, I'm sure you'll come up with a long list of bogus reasons. perhaps you are the biased one..."everything thai is just so good is n't?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) AOA said - "Australia has the worst schooling in the western world. I can spot Australian posters in a second, they confuse loose with lose (etc.), and never learn from their mistakes. I have several Australian friends who freely admit they left school illiterate." Oh come on AOA, Australian education system is slipping but is still way ahead of America. In secondary school PISA rankings of Maths, Science and Reading. 19th, 16th and 13th v 36th, 28th and 24th, even accounting for all our 'loose' friends. (I thought that it was just the standard TV way to spell 'lose'.) Drives me mad every time I see it actually, but you're not supposed to comment on that <deleted> here. And here's me always assuming it's an American. What an eejet I am! But I won't argue with you about university standards seeing as the US dominate the top 50 unis on the planet. Aussies are pretty much brain dead when it comes to general knowledge...............they always come last in our trivia quiz! Edited January 22, 2015 by samuibeachcomber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowerboy Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Just to emphasise again the key point here: That Aussie Kid is nothing special compared to other Western kids...he is just a normal western kid.. The point is the vast Chasm between a NORMAL western kid (not gifted or especially well developed or advanced by Western standards) compared to a NORMAL Thai Kid.....in fact I would go one further and say that these Thai kids are actually probably more advanced than the average Thai kid considering their parents are the type that can afford to send them to International School...not just the average Somchai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Just to emphasise again the key point here: That Aussie Kid is nothing special compared to other Western kids...he is just a normal western kid.. The point is the vast Chasm between a NORMAL western kid (not gifted or especially well developed or advanced by Western standards) compared to a NORMAL Thai Kid.....in fact I would go one further and say that these Thai kids are actually probably more advanced than the average Thai kid considering their parents are the type that can afford to send them to International School...not just the average Somchai. no need to apologise bowerboy...thai learning ability is pretty poor cos most are lazy,they have never been taught to think for themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKNY77 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 What stuck me is how the op keeps referring to his child as '' the farang kid'' I think that's an issue in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 What stuck me is how the op keeps referring to his child as '' the farang kid'' I think that's an issue in itself. The Farang kid he's referring to isn't his child. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claffey Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Its not the academice difference that concerns me .... Its the emotional maturity compared to his peers... It is no accident he is that way. Just for one thing amongst many is that I am shocked to see he is pretty much the only kid there that can feed himself... Thai children are fed by their parents for a number of reasons. Its a cultural nuance. The parents want to ensure that their kids are full.Food is of paramount importance here. Or haven't you noticed?? My son goes to an international school.He is often crying with hunger. Western kids are often not fed enough. They scoff down cereal in the morning that is full of artificial nutrition. Thai children will be given a cooked breakfast and they will eat it themselves and if they are slow eaters their parents of siblings will help them eat. This becomes a habit. I've often seen older kids been hand fed by their parents on the way to school. They are just ensuring that their child is full.Western parents don't really care about that as much. Don't bash the Thai's because they do things differently...Thai kids usually seem much happier than western kids. Probably because their parents look after them better.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfox Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 AOA said - "Australia has the worst schooling in the western world. I can spot Australian posters in a second, they confuse loose with lose (etc.), and never learn from their mistakes. I have several Australian friends who freely admit they left school illiterate." Oh come on AOA, Australian education system is slipping but is still way ahead of America. In secondary school PISA rankings of Maths, Science and Reading. 19th, 16th and 13th v 36th, 28th and 24th, even accounting for all our 'loose' friends. (I thought that it was just the standard TV way to spell 'lose'.) Drives me mad every time I see it actually, but you're not supposed to comment on that <deleted> here. And here's me always assuming it's an American. What an eejet I am! But I won't argue with you about university standards seeing as the US dominate the top 50 unis on the planet. Aussies are pretty much brain dead when it comes to general knowledge...............they always come last in our trivia quiz! Watch your tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfox Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 What stuck me is how the op keeps referring to his child as '' the farang kid'' I think that's an issue in itself. He is not. His kid is Luk Krung. The Aussie kid he is referring to has two Anglo Aussie parents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoiBiker Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 Well this thread is really proving the Farang superiority when it comes to reading comprehension. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadmo63 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Yes the smart kid is a farang, but more specifically he is an Aussie, so it's not surprising. Here's what Bill Maher thinks of his own people - And Aussie comedian Jim Jefferies on Americans being raised as the worst type of stupid people - stupid "confident" people!! Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkpdI88PNYE Edited January 22, 2015 by shadmo63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link to the excellent article in the ajarn website (David Walters blog) about bilingual children and the different density of their brains. A very educational read. Edited January 22, 2015 by rbkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trembly Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 international schools do great jobs at teaching toddlers to be independent I wouldn't worry about it too much also the kid is growing up with two teachers who presumably teach at an international school and know this stuff inside out. Thais have a general problem with teaching independence to little ones and that is something that myself and my wife are trying to instill in our 2 year old just little things like making him feed himself, taking his plate to the sink, washing his own hands and brushing his teeth, all of those little things make a difference. i remember when I first settled here my five year old step son was being spoon fed - it was actually disgusting watching it happen I had to really put my foot down and stamp it out quickly he also slept with his grandmother until the age of 9 ( what the <deleted>). In fairness though you should see some of the Thai kids at Harrow and places like that they are miles ahead of government school toddlers just because they are being taught to be independent. My Thai mother asked me if I wanted to learn to iron clothes when I was about 8 or 9. It'll be fun, she said... I jumped at the chance to learn how to do this fabled adult activity. From then on I almost never had any clothes ironed for me again. Y___Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimShortz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 How the hell did you come up with your child rearing strategy "We have raised our kid very much the Thai way where anything goes and there is no discipline or direction or guidance...just do what has to be done hour by hour and see where it all ends up." Jeez, what did you expect.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utkb Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) I think your thread would be better if you provided concrete examples rather than subjective observations that must be trusted. e.g. The kid knows his multiplication tables up to 9x9 but the other 2y10m old kids only can count to 10. Or he can say and write both the English and Thai alphabet but the others can just sing it. And without some concrete examples, I find it difficult to relate to your post. IMHO. Edited January 22, 2015 by utkb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 If that's what the OP has truly noticed, why castigate him? Because he's using a sample of ONE child to judge an entire race on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I went to school with a kid whose parents were astrophysicists. He was always top of the class. He did particularly well in maths and physics. He is probably an astrophysicist himself now. The point is the home environment is of paramount importance to a child's academic, emotional and behavioural development. If the home life consists of the tv on full blast for 18 hours a day then many studies have shown this is not the best way. BUT, is he ( the astrophysicist ) happy? If he's not, then all his qualifications are as dust. Too many people in the west are unhappy, divorced and depressed, despite ( or because of ) their so called career success. I scorn the west's obsession with money and career. As anyone with a brain cell can see, prosperity does not a happy nation make. Bhutan is going down the right track with it's desire to make it's people happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 Just to emphasise again the key point here: That Aussie Kid is nothing special compared to other Western kids...he is just a normal western kid.. The point is the vast Chasm between a NORMAL western kid (not gifted or especially well developed or advanced by Western standards) compared to a NORMAL Thai Kid.....in fact I would go one further and say that these Thai kids are actually probably more advanced than the average Thai kid considering their parents are the type that can afford to send them to International School...not just the average Somchai. BUT, which children are happier? Thai parents/ families are far more touchy feely than most western parents/ families. Western kids are banished to a separate bedroom from birth and grow up feeling bad if they had to share a bed with family members, while Thais can sleep a whole family in one bed. Too many posters saying things like Thais are lazy, just because they aren't anal retentive, driven, work obsessed robots like westerners. My Thai MIL works really hard, but not in a western way, and I'm sure she's far happier than any trendy, money obsessed western woman would be in a similar situation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 If that's what the OP has truly noticed, why castigate him? Because he's using a sample of ONE child to judge an entire race on. I thought it was just an observation..............and a good one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartempion Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Well I don't care much how other kids get educated. I care about the 100% Thai girl we are educating, me the acting farang father and the acting Thai mother. The girl is nearing her 4th birthday, attends 1st year kindergarten in a private school (all kids Thai) and this Monday we got a letter asking to pay 300B for a school computer. Thus Tuesday evening she came home with the thing, teacher just showed me how to wake up the machine. At home she started pushing buttons and I had to show her where the on/off button was. The machine has around 50 colored buttons (thai and farang letters and numbers and function buttons) Within minutes she found the machine asking for Thai letters, took her a few tries to understand the sound of right/wrong. Her right rate was immediately around 80%. Not bad on a 50 button thing. Is she a smart girl? I dunno but hope so. She is fairly good trilingual, I often ask her daily ordinary happenings in Thai like "where is your mother", she will reply something in English. I gave her my old ipad and she is very good in manipulating the thing, playing games and viewing all kinds of youtube movies, good and bad ones. She found a couple of American teenagers acting really stupid, but I can not forbid her to watch that crap. This morning at breakfast she told me: "Nos vamos a la compra" I looked in surprise, where does this come from? She smiled and said: it means "We go to the shop" Ah, learning Spanish before your 4th birthday eh? Time to learn French I would rather say... Now I wonder how the kids in her class do with the school comp. I guess time will tell how close or far away her education will go as compared to real Thai educated kids. Still she will need to live in Thailand. So there need to be a balance between westernness and thainess, not sure how this can be achieved. Edited January 23, 2015 by tartempion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Search of Space Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 My neice in Thailand had a daughter born in 2008 and the family jokingly refer to her as two-brains. By 8 months she was speaking and copying every word I spoke in English, then had to be careful as she kept calling the wife "big-bum". She is still a smart kid, doing well in school and brought up in a Thai manner - everyone is different 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowerboy Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 "Thai Kids Are Happier" I always doubt this often used broad brush statement. I think "Ignorance is Bliss" is far more fitting. If a Thai child could comprehend the opportunities they were being deprived of in life then I am pretty sure they would not be happy. Luckily they are taught not to be curious or to ask questions...thus "ignorance is bliss". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think one of the main differences between a Thai and a Farang kid, is that a Thai kid seems to bounce better when it falls out of the back of a pickup... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggg88 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Its not the academice difference that concerns me .... Its the emotional maturity compared to his peers... It is no accident he is that way. Just for one thing amongst many is that I am shocked to see he is pretty much the only kid there that can feed himself... Thai women mollycoddle their kids. My son is 4 yrs old and my wife treats him like he's still 2. He drinks from a baby spouted cup and he can't even dress himself. The home environment is very important to a child's development but having everything done for you discourages development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 My 3 kids started off their education in the States and in the UK. In most of the International schools of Thailand the curriculum is in English language. Many of the children that attend the International schools, their first languages is not English, so therefore when my kids began International school they were at an advantage because at the time their first languages were English. Nothing to do with being smarter than the Thai kids. Reverse the situation and place a farang child in an all exclusive Thai school the Thai children would be leaps and bounds ahead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelmsman Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Why is it, my kid is always better than all the rest of them? Just a thought.......... Because mine is better than the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Why is it, my kid is always better than all the rest of them? Just a thought.......... Because mine is better than the rest. I actually hate other people`s kids. Snooty nosed little brats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelmsman Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Why is it, my kid is always better than all the rest of them? Just a thought.......... Because mine is better than the rest. I actually hate other people`s kids. Snooty nosed little brats. And, they're all dumb as nails to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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