WarpSpeed Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) T/A let it go For Freaks Sake! I'm getting embarrassed for you myself, your link says nothing about anything close to cleaning once in 20 years, quite the opposite in fact because if the filter is doing it's job it WILL get dirty to the point of needing a frequent cleaning as the describe and your comparison of "no difference what-so-ever" is nonsense, when you're just going on times run and trying to convince everyone here that your memory is so sharp that you remember EVERY time you ever ran (unless it was only 2 or 3 times that is) with NO difference clean or not? EVERY run was exactly the same as every other run? Never heard of such perfect regularity and knowing for absolute certainty that it was strictly your filter making the difference or not? Oh my giddy aunt, give it a rest.. Edited February 2, 2015 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Some results from air filter testing: http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html The K&N provided less restriction but also less filtering. They also blocked faster than the paper filters. Yes this mostly why they use them in motorsports, but the quick blocking is a problem with endurance racing which is why most don't use them in that form of racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Gawd warpy, the link states 50,000 MILES, if an oversized filter it "can" go on up to 100,000 MILES, nothing to do with my 20 years...... Hundreds and thousands of K&N filters have been fitted to rides over decades and most folk I would suggest follow the manufacturers advice regarding cleaning. You say THEY, K&N are wrong. PS. Folk must be queuing up for engine damage claims eh.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) That's it's lifespan, not it's cleaning schedule!! Are those K&N cleaning kits put out by K&N or not? WHY in the F would they offer a cleaning kit that provides multiple cleanings per kit if they didn't intend for it to be cleaned regularly? Never mind, rhetorical question.. Regardless, you're now trying to do your usual T/A tap dance and flipping your position, your original post stated that you only cleaned your K&N once in 20 years and there was no difference in your performance clean or dirty, that being the case it shouts volumes about your knowledge on the topic and nothing else need be said.. Edited February 2, 2015 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 That's it's lifespan, not it's cleaning schedule!! Are those K&N cleaning kits put out by K&N or not? WHY in the F would they offer a cleaning kit that provides multiple cleanings per kit if they didn't intend for it to be cleaned regularly? Never mind, rhetorical question.. YOU haven't read the link have you.......... The K&N filter has a 1,000,000 MILE warranty..... .CLEANING, 50,000 MILES or up to 100,000 MILES if oversized filter............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Done.... Flippin idiot is all I can say. FYI I don't need to read your f'ing link, I'm well versed on K&N ever since they began to get popular which they did mostly through motorsports thank you very much. Never got more then 2 race weekends out of one before needing cleaning, that's about a total of 3 hours driving in most cases, the rubber build up, the track dirt, the sand that gets thrown up from other vehicles, no way would they run even close to that distance without a serious performance drop or filter damage. Edited February 2, 2015 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Done.... Flippin idiot is all I can say. FYI I don't need to read your f'ing link, I'm well versed on K&N ever since they began to get popular which they did mostly through motorsports thank you very much. Never got more then 2 race weekends out of one before needing cleaning, that's about a total of 3 hours driving in most cases, the rubber build up, the track dirt, the sand that gets thrown up from other vehicles, no way would they run even close to that distance without a serious performance drop or filter damage. Fink the OP has a Vigo.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Yes so why did you bring your straight line T/A into the topic? That nonsense is what began this whole debate..Sadly I fear you've entered dementia stage, terrible thing that too, I just had that with my mother, she just passed a couple of weeks ago but it was a God send she never entered full dementia, it was bad enough .. Edited February 2, 2015 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yes so why did you bring your straight line T/A into the topic? That nonsense is what began this whole debate..Sadly I fear you've entered dementia stage .. My Trans was used on the street........May I add, all my V8 chums used K&N....Yep, we all did with nooooooooooooooooooo problems.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yes my race cars were also street legal (required by rules) and a lot closer to stock then your straight liner so what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I feel this one gone beat the tyre pressure thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yes my race cars were also street legal (required by rules) and a lot closer to stock then your straight liner so what's your point? Your "straight line" comment. My/our rides were street/strip cars. My own was near 7 ltr and the springs allowed it to rev to near 7 grand through an 800 cubic feet per minute carb pulling through a K&N. I will say again, I cleaned it once in 20 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Some results from air filter testing: http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html The K&N provided less restriction but also less filtering. They also blocked faster than the paper filters. These tests - and others - made up my mind. "Compared to the AC, the K&N “plugged up” nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt." Will only use K&N on race cars / bikes now, not street. Edited February 2, 2015 by seedy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) That's it's lifespan, not it's cleaning schedule!! Are those K&N cleaning kits put out by K&N or not? WHY in the F would they offer a cleaning kit that provides multiple cleanings per kit if they didn't intend for it to be cleaned regularly? Never mind, rhetorical question.. YOU haven't read the link have you.......... The K&N filter has a 1,000,000 MILE warranty..... .CLEANING, 50,000 MILES or up to 100,000 MILES if oversized filter............... Speaking of links, did you read this one offered up by Jitar? I mean don't just take my word for it, in fact besides that link there are 4 or 5 other people here trying to get the same point across to you.. http://http://www.nicoclub....oem-filter.html Edited February 2, 2015 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Back to the OP............... If someone gave me a K&N filter for my Vigo I would fit it . But, I would not buy one for a Vigo. The stock filter to me is well over engineered because of situations the truck might work in, plus the engine runs at very low RPM virtually all it's life and so a stock filter has noooo problem breathing, also I would suggest noooooo noticeable power increase for a Vigo..K&N are really for high revving units where more air will make a difference...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 And you continue, I understand more than you ever will...........................Clearly.. The personification of modesty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandyellow Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hope this helps. You reminded me I have to clean mine.. Kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandyellow Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hope this helps. You reminded me I have to clean mine.. Kind regards the number is 99-5000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 And you continue, I understand more than you ever will...........................Clearly.. The personification of modesty. Whats to be modest about Spooners when people challenge your knowledge? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) And you continue, I understand more than you ever will...........................Clearly.. The personification of modesty. Whats to be modest about Spooners when people challenge your knowledge? Wrong person Warty. I've been posting since long before Spoonman was allegedly removed, if, indeed, he was. "I understand more than you ever will..", demonstrably not the case! You don't seem to have the nouse to realise that your "knowledge" is not being challenged, it's your bull-headed arrogance that gets the kicking it deserves whilst you successfully head topics in the direction of being closed with your attempts to always have the last word. By the way, transam is right. Edited February 3, 2015 by Sviss Geez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Maybe we need a topic on coolents? Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Maybe we need a topic on coolents? Lol I'll Start ... Drain and flush. Fill with Vodka. In case of breakdown you will have something to do ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) And you continue, I understand more than you ever will...........................Clearly.. The personification of modesty. Whats to be modest about Spooners when people challenge your knowledge? Wrong person Warty. I've been posting since long before Spoonman was allegedly removed, if, indeed, he was. "I understand more than you ever will..", demonstrably not the case! You don't seem to have the nouse to realise that your "knowledge" is not being challenged, it's your bull-headed arrogance that gets the kicking it deserves whilst you successfully head topics in the direction of being closed with your attempts to always have the last word. By the way, transam is right. No he isn't but kind of have to agree though even Spooners had more to contribute and was less a vile troll then you are. Do you have something besides instigation and trolling to contribute to the topic? Thought not, toddle off then.. Edited February 3, 2015 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Can we all agree that getting the last word in, does not mean you win lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Can we all agree that getting the last word in, does not mean you win lol Can You tell my Wife that Jim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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