bheard Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Just had a brilliant idea...........why don't they oblige the TVF members to go through a Thainess course? Although, I wouldn't doubt the results............all failed Brilliant! Yep, can someone post the course notes on line please? Would make interesting reading for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Who needs an English teacher? Let them speak Thai. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mot Dang Posted February 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2015 This government is becoming more and more draconian in its attitude towards falang expatriates. Can anyone think of any other country that does this ? And I'm not talking about tests one does if they are applying for citizenship in some countries. And then you have on the other hand (in a parallel story in this edition of TV), you have ministers telling "all Thais to be generous with tourists, particularly in anticipation of an influx of Chinese tourists during the approaching Chinese New Year." Rather skewed isn't it, towards being politically incorrect ? But I will have to bite my tongue. What will be the face of Thailand in another 30 years ? I've been here more than 30 now, I don't think I will see 2045. Mind you I could be sitting by a river somewhere in a more friendly country somewhere in S.E.A. before then. Mind you who misses out on my departure, me, or the families in my village that I assist every year getting their children educated. My vision is that the "imperialist" falang will be just urban myth and the dominant power in Thailand will be Chinese. Sad really, this government is going to have a profound effect on Thailand's future. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lupatria Posted February 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2015 Thainess , so come 2 hours too late , play with your telephone the whole time , let somebody else do the work while drinking laokao , pay official in charge to give you the paper ? I can't imagine the outcry of all the hurt hearts in LOS if the government of my home country would make it mandatory for Thai-restaurant owners to pass a test in basic western hygiene standards, social etiquette, the country's culture without superstition, greed, scams and corruption attempts. Maybe it's time for a petition. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeworldwide Posted February 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2015 In other news today: It has been announced that all member of the TCT must undergo an intensive 21 week basic common sense course. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygunther Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 And who pays for this course? The individual teacher, the teacher's school, or the Ministry of Education? You need to ask ??? We of cause ..... Its all about the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 And who pays for this course? The individual teacher, the teacher's school, or the Ministry of Education? Question of the day, but if it is anybody other than the foreign teacher it will be the surprise of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Thai education concepts Yes, they have concepts for education, the Prof Dr said so. You wanna find out more? Take the course and all will be revealed..., or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 This one is an old joke. It was pushed as a requirement a few of years ago as well, so nothing new here really. Same old buffoons, so far up themselves they can't see the rest of the world is laughing at them. Hey Thailand, can your Thai English teachers even spell TOEIC? You've got a nerve. Nevermind, no need to spell TOEIC if you're a joker... and you are: see this or any other news thread to note how the world laughs at you. Go Myanmar! Go Cambodia! Go Laos! Go Vietnam! Let the Thais fail and lose face. Sadly, it'll be the best thing for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 In other news today: It has been announced that all member of the TCT must undergo an intensive 21 week basic common sense course. Those that already have common sense will take the 21 hour course and those with no common sense will take a 42 hour course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Who will Thai students speak English to? There Thai friends? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 21 hours???? Would love to see a syllabus or a lesson plan of this course in the Secrets of Thai Pedagogery!!!! The 21 hour course is one thing. Prior to that you need to pass the 4 week course to understand the teachers questions and answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post arrowsdawdle Posted February 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2015 Thai education is different, like Thai electricity. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 If you can't raise Thai education standards, drag teachers down to that level and avoid loss of face. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPB65 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 21 hours to learn that Thais are unteachable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveller45 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 OK, Joke aside, I think this is a well-meant measure. It is also not excessive what the Thai ministry is asking for here. Mind you, in most countries there are taller hurdles to overcome when you want to do teaching as a foreigner. In some it is impossible. Of course this is wide open to abuse, like so many well-meant Government measures are. It is not a tit-for-tat thing, where we could legitimately say, let Thai teachers show first that they understand their own business. They are at home here, we are not. Once a Thai teacher goes abroad to teach, THEN we can start and examine him or her. Up to every foreigner attending to take something out of the course or just to grease some palms and have the certificate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestar Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Wouldn't want those farang teachers to put crazy ideas like democracy in those kids heads.... Sing songs, bow, shut your mouth... education Junta approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) If I say jump, you say how high! Did someone say jump onto a plane to Thailand in order to find for work they were unqualified for or unable to find in their own countries? Doubt any course will do much to "cure" the negativity and antipathy to Thai people often exhibited by the condescending posters on TV, including the posters who are already teaching here or actively scrounging for jobs (or just an excuse for a visa) and I imagine many teachers already think they know everything, but maybe a few will actually be able to learn something. Educators who are reluctant to learn more about the students they teach or who assume they know everything they'll ever need to know should be culled from their jobs. Every education system has in-service learning as a part of teacher growth and skill enhancement. Educators opposed to education ... only on Thai Visa could someone feel threatened by the opportunity to learn. Edited February 13, 2015 by Suradit69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Wouldn't want those farang teachers to put crazy ideas like democracy in those kids heads.... Sing songs, bow, shut your mouth... education Junta approved. One item missing: Be able to memorize and recite these (teachers as well, of course): The twelve Thai Values are: 1) Upholding of the three main pillars of the country: the nation, the religion, and the monarchy 2) Honesty, sacrifice and patience with positive attitude for the interest of the public 3) Filial piety towards parents, guardians and teachers 4) Seeking of direct and indirect knowledge and education 5) Preservation of Thai traditions and cultures 6) Morality, integrity, considerateness, generosity and sharing 7) Understanding and learning of true democratic ideals with His Majesty the King as Head of State 8) Maintaining of discipline, respectfulness of laws and the elderly 9) Being conscious and mindful of action in line with His Majesty's the King's royal statements 10) Applying His Majesty the King's sufficiency economy, saving money for time of need, being moderate with surplus for sharing or expansion of business while having good immunity 11) Keeping physical and mental strength, unyielding to the evil power or desires, having sense of shame over guilt and sins in accordance with the religious principles 12) Putting the public and national interest before one's own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Everyone is behaving like the PM. Its all about ordering and intimation in junta time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestar Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 If I say jump, you say how high! Did someone say jump onto a plane to Thailand in order to find for work they were unqualified for or unable to find in their own countries? Doubt any course will do much to "cure" the negativity and antipathy to Thai people often exhibited by the condescending posters on TV, including the posters who are already teaching here or actively scrounging for jobs (or just an excuse for a visa) and I imagine many teachers already think they know everything, but maybe a few will actually be able to learn something. Educators who are reluctant to learn more about the students they teach or who assume they know everything they'll ever need to know should be culled from their jobs. Every education system has in-service learning as a part of teacher growth and skill enhancement. I don't think anybody would be saying anything if it had to do qualifications or learning/ This is more like "attitude adjustment" for the whole of the foreign teaching body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry001 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Unfortunately this is not a joke.. My school has been forcing teachers to attend at their own expense. The course mostly covers how to make your own pen guns/ping pong bombs, how to grease palms, and the importance of Hitler. lust; l am presuming you are very sarcastic. A very big concern if you are serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 42 hours to teach a foreigner that the Thai teaching philosophy is brainless repetition? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhwest Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Not that many Native English Teachers then and the only Native ones are English and not what the schools bullshite to the Thai parents that they employ a native speaker. Oh yes from the Phillies forgot lol and American English John West Edited February 13, 2015 by jhwest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wileycoyote Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Would like to know the content of the 21 Hours Course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronwparker Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Ridiculous Everbody knows Thai Educaation is mich lower in standard at every level!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runamile Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Given a major part of Thai culture is tea money. How much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 If you are trying to teach someone from a different culture anything, and this is not just Thailand but any country, you have to have an understanding of that persons culture if you are going to do a good job. Where this idea is that you dont need any knowledge of a country and can still do a good job comes from I have no idea. I would suggest that all of these people posting on TV do several things. 1. Learn to spell. Most of the spelling on here is bad. Dont ever think of teaching English until you can write it yourself. 2. Stop trying to find things that are wrong with any requirements that make the teaching better. 3. As you have such a sad life, leave TV and try to find a life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 21 hours, can't be much to learn about Thainess. 21 hours of watching a Thai soap would get you through it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDave Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The problem with Thai people is they are the ones who need to go on a culture course. They live in one big bubble of Thainess where money is King, and the farang is a cross between a walking ATM and a cow that can be milked of cash on a daily basis. Non Thai teachers are waking up to the fact that there is more to life than Sunshine and easy women. While countries like China roll out the red carpet, Thailand just puts more obstacles in the way of the very people they need. Why work for peanuts and be treated like a chump when there are better opportunity's elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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