Prayut brushes aside reconciliation talk with Thaksin

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Prayut brushes aside reconciliation talk with Thaksin



BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha today brushed aside a proposal of an outstanding reform committee member for a talk with fugitive prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in order to achieve his government's reconciliation plan.

Gen Prayut made clear that his position now could not afford him to hold talk with Thaksin or to designate any representative to to act on his behalf as it would be against the law.

He said nobody could order or direct him to open talk with the former prime minister.

He said all problems rested with only one fact that if he wished to see reconciliation, he must return to face justice system.

Gen Prayut said what he viewed did not mean that all channels for talks would be shut completely, adding that the door was left open for everyone who did nothing wrong.

For those who had done wrong, they had to do things right in accordance with the laws and he was ready to open the door for them, Gen Prayut said.

Asked whether what he said was an indication that he would like Thaksin to return and to face judicial process, Gen Prayut said he did not mean any individual but all because there were various cases of conflicts and offences.

Any person charged for any offence should come to defend the charge, he said.

He made clear that he could not compromise with any person who has been convicted under the laws.

Asked about amnesty for wrongdoers, he asked that if any person could say it could be done legally, please let him know it will not violate the law to do so.
But as a state authority, he could not compromise with any wrongdoer, he said.

He also urged some university students who came out to voice opposition to the military junta’s ruling, to have understanding and not to become tool to any group wanting to widen the rift which has been healed.

(Photo : Thai PBS File)

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/prayut-brushes-aside-reconciliation-talk-thaksin


-- Thai PBS 2015-02-16

[ratcatcher]

He also urged some university students who came out to voice opposition to the military junta’s ruling, to have understanding and not to become tool to any group wanting to widen the rift which has been healed.

Not so sure about that little gem. Or to which rift they are referring.

[Thailand]

I wonder if a few of the lower ranks are getting a bit twitchy?

[sweatalot]

"He made clear that he could not compromise with any person who has been convicted under the laws."

Absolutely right.

A shame that he needs make a statement like that.

Edited February 16, 2015 by sweatalot

[tullynagardy]

it would be against the law.

Pretty sure taking power by force is as well but never worry.

In reality the military is hopelessly fractured and the elite are constantly playing a balancing act to try and keep unity in their camp. The fear of god that Thaksin still puts into these people is laughable but obvious to anyone why with a little knowledge.

They now need to try and maintain the status quo for as long as it takes ahead a certain event, with many questions marks about what will happen after unanswered. Sadly the only way they can do this is by doing what they do best - oppression.

[Fat Haggis]

More like a pair of stubborn fannies whose power went to their heads !!

[bubblegum]

A self appointed military dictator refuses to talk to an elected exiled prime minister.

A self appointed military dictator refuses to talk to a convicted criminal, liar and coward.

Fixed.

A self appointed military dictator with his own self issued personal amnesty for overthrowing the constitution refuses to talk to the most successful politician Thailand has ever seen, a twice elected Prime Minister, who has been forced into exile due to a farcical conviction from a biased, paid off inbred judicial system.

Now its fixed.

Lol another "banned before" apologist trying to make a mark with propaganda rhetoric's

[metisdead]

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[lildragon]

There's only room for one egomaniac here!

[Cuchulainn]

Why should a PM hold talks with a fugitive on the run?

[DoctorB]

"Gen Prayut made clear that his position now could not afford him to hold talk with Thaksin or to designate any representative to to act on his behalf as it would be against the law."

Heaven forbid he should want to break the law; like seizing power for himself from the democratically elected government and tearing up the constitution. Very droll.

[leeneeds]

HAS the political killings stopped ? YES , Has the Military tried to show tolerance , YES, Have the rule benders, bribers , and takers, been dealt a blow since the removal of the " how much money lost rice farce "

The Man has asked for time to remove as much as possible the entrenched botched government , he has short comings like us all , Mr Prayut has ,and is trying to get the communication message through, that THAILAND comes first , and that I believe him, Sure it is still not going to be easy come next year , I am just happy to have some one in THAILAND'S corner , as i think he is.

[WitawatWatawit]

"Gen Prayut made clear that his position now could not afford him to hold talk with Thaksin or to designate any representative to to act on his behalf as it would be against the law."

What law is that, general, and what are the consequences? Consorting with a fugitive criminal? Oh dear, who's been naughty over the past few years, then? Lots of naughtiness - in Singapore, in Cambodia, in Burma, in China, in Hong Kong, in Dubai, in Paris, London, ....

[chainarong]

The penny hasn't dropped with Khun Thaksin, not a good look trying to get something back that he was instrumental in causing, a divided nation , it still is divided, although under the radar as the Junta strives to sort out the mish mash the legacy of Thaksin and his political parties, PM Prayuth is correct , come home Thaksin and face your peers or will you wait another 3 years till statute of limitations expires.

[tullynagardy]

the Junta strives to sort out the mish mash the legacy of Thaksin and his political parties,

I`m sorry but it just beggars belief the ignorance of some on here who think Thaksin is the start and end of all corruption and evil in Thailand. In reality he is just a small piece of the story in a decades long tradition of a military backed elite subverting democracy in the Kingdom.

There were a staggering TEN military/elite led coups in Thailland in the period of 1932 to 2001 (when first Thaksin came to power.) There was no Thaksin then, what legacy where they striving to sort out then?

For the love of god would all you coup mongering ignoramuses do us all a favour and read some Thai history. It didn`t begin in 2001 and what we are seeing today is part of a much bigger picture.

[Fat Haggis]

Why should a PM hold talks with a fugitive on the run?

Yes, indeed, why should the junta hold talks with Islamic insurgents who have killed over 5000 in ten years?

What the heck, let the killing and violence continue, it does wonders for ones budget eh?

[halloween]

The penny hasn't dropped with Khun Thaksin, not a good look trying to get something back that he was instrumental in causing, a divided nation , it still is divided, although under the radar as the Junta strives to sort out the mish mash the legacy of Thaksin and his political parties, PM Prayuth is correct , come home Thaksin and face your peers or will you wait another 3 years till statute of limitations expires.

Why should a SoL apply to Thaksin who is a convicted criminal? Does Roman Polanski visit the US often?

A statute of limitation is a law which forbids prosecutors from charging someone with a crime that was committed more than a specified number of years ago.

[mrmicbkktxl]

The penny hasn't dropped with Khun Thaksin, not a good look trying to get something back that he was instrumental in causing, a divided nation , it still is divided, although under the radar as the Junta strives to sort out the mish mash the legacy of Thaksin and his political parties, PM Prayuth is correct , come home Thaksin and face your peers or will you wait another 3 years till statute of limitations expires.

Divided because of 2 coups

Edited February 16, 2015 by metisdead
Moved reply out of quoted post.

[WitawatWatawit]

the Junta strives to sort out the mish mash the legacy of Thaksin and his political parties,

I`m sorry but it just beggars belief the ignorance of some on here who think Thaksin is the start and end of all corruption and evil in Thailand. In reality he is just a small piece of the story in a decades long tradition of a military backed elite subverting democracy in the Kingdom.

There were a staggering TEN military/elite led coups in Thailland in the period of 1932 to 2001 (when first Thaksin came to power.) There was no Thaksin then, what legacy where they striving to sort out then?

For the love of god would all you coup mongering ignoramuses do us all a favour and read some Thai history. It didn`t begin in 2001 and what we are seeing today is part of a much bigger picture.

For the love of God, will you read what you have written? You're a clot if you think the anti-Thaksinistas believe it all starts and ends with the grubby one. Honestly, how dumb can you get. Everyone knows the history of corruption. - and that the grub is just the latest manifestation. He just happens to be the most greedy, rapacious, diabolical of all. And his time is now, not last century. And he must be wiped out NOW, not next century. For the love of God.

[Reigntax]

Didn't the director general receive a pardon himself for acting against Thai law, overthrowing the elected government, ditching the Constitution and then he has the nerve to state " no compromise with any wrongdoer".

I agree DG there should be no compromise. And you should stand up like a man and accept the punishment rather the protecting you own backside and calling others criminals.

You are all tarred with the same brush, however the military is far more corrupt than both the yellow and the Reds.

[tullynagardy]

For the love of God, will you read what you have written? You're a clot if you think the anti-Thaksinistas believe it all starts and ends with the grubby one. Honestly, how dumb can you get. Everyone knows the history of corruption. - and that the grub is just the latest manifestation. He just happens to be the most greedy, rapacious, diabolical of all. And his time is now, not last century. And he must be wiped out NOW, not next century. For the love of God.

Bless, you really have it all worked out sport, don`t you?

I`m anti Thaksin as well. His main claim to fame was his autocratic rule meant the country was now pillaged to the benefit of a slightly different set of crooks. Following Khun Prayuth`s intervention it`s back to the original group of crooks who have dominated the country for centuries. Yay!

If you don`t have the intelligence to understand what the military/elite grouping represents don`t get angry and result to name calling - go out and read and educate yourself

[Robby nz]

Not surprising really, not a good look for the PM of a country to be consorting, negotiating or dealing with a convicted criminal on the run even though the previous administration and their PM made a habit of it.

But then I suppose he was (and still is) their owner, paymaster and the only one among them who is able to or allowed to think, so they have an excuse.

[Reigntax]

I wonder if a few of the lower ranks are getting a bit twitchy?

You can bet your life they are. Thinking that they would naturally follow their predecessors on the military wealth chain and this guy could stuff up their future wealth prospects.

[jacky54]

Are people who hold illegal coups criminals, or is that just those who actually get elected with large majorities? I think there is an element of glass houses and stone throwing here.

[brucec64]

Didn't the director general receive a pardon himself for acting against Thai law, overthrowing the elected government, ditching the Constitution and then he has the nerve to state " no compromise with any wrongdoer".

I agree DG there should be no compromise. And you should stand up like a man and accept the punishment rather the protecting you own backside and calling others criminals.

You are all tarred with the same brush, however the military is far more corrupt than both the yellow and the Reds.

“Irony is wasted on the stupid”

― Oscar Wilde

[sweatalot]

"Gen Prayut made clear that his position now could not afford him to hold talk with Thaksin or to designate any representative to to act on his behalf as it would be against the law."

Heaven forbid he should want to break the law; like seizing power for himself from the democratically elected government and tearing up the constitution. Very droll.

"democratically elected"

Yawn

Are you aware that you are missing a few very important facts?

democracy is not election only

[Fatty123]

Are people who hold illegal coups criminals, or is that just those who actually get elected with large majorities? I think there is an element of glass houses and stone throwing here.

Lawyer: Here is the law book. It says you cannot do that.

Army dude: Here is my tank. It says I can.

[rubl]

Didn't the director general receive a pardon himself for acting against Thai law, overthrowing the elected government, ditching the Constitution and then he has the nerve to state " no compromise with any wrongdoer".

I agree DG there should be no compromise. And you should stand up like a man and accept the punishment rather the protecting you own backside and calling others criminals.

You are all tarred with the same brush, however the military is far more corrupt than both the yellow and the Reds.

Who's the Director General who received a pardon?

BTW your last sentence is one of the kind which states what others should obviously know and agree with. As such it provides only an opinion. Also it is not defined who 'yellows' and who 'reds' are. So how do you know that for one they are corrupt and for another less than the military?

PS you forgot to mention the Police. regarding corruption they also seem to know their bit.

[rubl]

Are people who hold illegal coups criminals, or is that just those who actually get elected with large majorities? I think there is an element of glass houses and stone throwing here.

Lawyer: Here is the law book. It says you cannot do that.

Army dude: Here is my tank. It says I can.

So, do you think a PM should start talks with a criminal fugitive who caused troubles to the country by becoming too greedy? A criminal fugitive who still has problem to even acknowledge that there might possibly be one or two minor things he could have done better.

[Fatty123]

Are people who hold illegal coups criminals, or is that just those who actually get elected with large majorities? I think there is an element of glass houses and stone throwing here.

Lawyer: Here is the law book. It says you cannot do that.

Army dude: Here is my tank. It says I can.

So, do you think a PM should start talks with a criminal fugitive who caused troubles to the country by becoming too greedy? A criminal fugitive who still has problem to even acknowledge that there might possibly be one or two minor things he could have done better.

First up, Thaksin is probably a corrupt snake and Thailand is better off without him. However, he has never had a fair trial in my opinion. And never will while Thailand is in the grip of the military. He took a few hands out of the cookie jar and they didn't like it. Let's be honest about this at least. If TS is a criminal, why aren't you asking why Thailand has so many multi millionaire generals in its ranks? Rich relatives? Pffff. Sure lol. And why has Thailand had so many coups before TS was even on the scene? And why a few of those PMs also became 'criminal fugitives'. History repeats itself in Thailand, but many refuse to see why.

Thaksin is no angel. However, acts of treason trump anything he did.

Edited February 16, 2015 by Fatty123