soon retired but don't meet Thai exigence money wise...

[francois]

hi' all

as stated, I'll be ready for retirement, I don't meet the 800.000B in the bank...

best I can do is get a non-immigrant non-O, and probably later ask for a longer extension....

I'm French, 56 years old, have a child born in Thailand (with all papers)

I'm a bit lost with all these new regulations, the non-O is ok, 90 days and trip to Vientiane, then back home...

I've a family house in a small village near Yasothon.

what would be the possibilities to get something more appropriate to me,

I didn't mention but I have a light handicap, can't do all things, not in a wheel-chair!

I hope that I've been clear enough

thanks for help

cheers

[Jingthing]

Do you have any income?

If so, income can be combined with Thai bank account to meet the requirements.

For example, annual income 400K plus Thai bank account 400K.

If your income happens to be over 65K baht per month, then no banked money needed.

[paz]

What the OP can do, is to go to Savannakhet Laos with his legalization papers, child birth certificate, child and mother copies of ID card and tambien baan. This way he can obtain a multi-entry non-imm 'O'' visa. Combined with 60 days extension it would allow border hops every 5 months and a total of almost 17 months before needing a new visa.

[Jingthing]

I was clearly speaking about the retirement extension requirements as he mentioned he doesn't have 800K in the bank, I explained the other options for retirement extension status in case he wasn't aware.

Cheers.

[nzexpat]

There are no new regulations !

What exactly are you seeking to achieve ?

A more detailed description of your circumstances and finances would permit better advice.

[NeverSure]

Do you have any income?

If so, income can be combined with Thai bank account to meet the requirements.

For example, annual income 400K plus Thai bank account 400K.

If your income happens to be over 65K baht per month, then no banked money needed.

No, when applying for having a Thai relative, it's one or the other, fund and income cannot be combined.

What the OP can do, is to go to Savannakhet Laos with his legalization papers, child birth certificate, child and mother copies of ID card and tambien baan. This way he can obtain a multi-entry non-imm 'O'' visa. Combined with 60 days extension it would allow border hops every 5 months and a total of almost 17 months before needing a new visa.

Yes, but doesn't he need less money as in 400K baht or 40K baht per month?

[paz]

I was clearly speaking about the retirement extension requirements as he mentioned he doesn't have 800K in the bank, I explained the other options for retirement extension status in case he wasn't aware.

Cheers.

Thanks for clarifying, I've edited my posting.

[Maestro]

Removed an off-topic post.

[ubonjoe]

Are you the legal father of your child by way of marriage or legitimization? If not all you can get is a single entry non-o visa and a 60 day extension at immigration. See::How To Gain Parental Rights As A Father

If you are the legal father you can get a one year extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai. You would need 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only or 40k baht income.

You can also get a multiple entry non-o visa at some embassies and consulates. At Savannakhet you could get one but you need your child and their mother with you to prove you are living together as a family (defacto marriage).

[ubonjoe]

A off topic and abusive post has been removed. OP did not ask for advise on the cost of living here.

[francois]

There are no new regulations !

What exactly are you seeking to achieve ?

A more detailed description of your circumstances and finances would permit better advice.

I've seen those, but still can get to cop with this money in the bank...

I'm gonna be retired in years, I'll get something like a rough 32.000B/month

no way to save any before to come back...

I might have a few thousands Euros safe, that's all.

I know where to stay ... have a house close to Yasothon.

I've beeen living here for a while (some ten years..)

the only thing that worry me is the type of visa, the non-O multiple entry,

that's what I had when living here, the retirement visa is out of reach for me.

[francois]

Are you the legal father of your child by way of marriage or legitimization? If not all you can get is a single entry non-o visa and a 60 day extension at immigration. See::How To Gain Parental Rights As A Father

If you are the legal father you can get a one year extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai. You would need 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only or 40k baht income.

You can also get a multiple entry non-o visa at some embassies and consulates. At Savannakhet you could get one but you need your child and their mother with you to prove you are living together as a family (defacto marriage).

I'm the legal father, my daughter born in Chiang Mai, and declared there too.

I've the born paper with me.

the one year thing is interesting, but still need 400k in the bank, or 40k per month, I won't get this...

[francois]

A off topic and abusive post has been removed. OP did not ask for advise on the cost of living here.

I think I know well the living cost...

[Jingthing]

Interesting.

So you could do the combo method for retirement extensions if you could scare up about 350K baht every year for three months to season in your Thai bank account.

Do you have any friends or relatives who could "lend" you the money every year for three months (two months the first time)?

Before people diss this comment, I am clear that there is no written Thai regulation saying that borrowing the funds for that is prohibited. It is also OK for the funds to go down after each extension as far as the rules are concerned. Lots of people spend down annually from those accounts, perfectly legitimately.

The math:

Your stated annual income: 384K

Your projected savings: 75K

Needed to meet combo threshold of 800K: 341K

[ubonjoe]

Are you the legal father of your child by way of marriage or legitimization? If not all you can get is a single entry non-o visa and a 60 day extension at immigration. See::How To Gain Parental Rights As A Father

If you are the legal father you can get a one year extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai. You would need 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only or 40k baht income.

You can also get a multiple entry non-o visa at some embassies and consulates. At Savannakhet you could get one but you need your child and their mother with you to prove you are living together as a family (defacto marriage).

I'm the legal father, my daughter born in Chiang Mai, and declared there too.

I've the born paper with me.

the one year thing is interesting, but still need 400k in the bank, or 40k per month, I won't get this...

Your name on the birth certificate does not make you the legal father for visa and immigration purposes unless you were married to your child's mother either before or after their birth. If not you need to legitimize your parenthood to meet the requirements.

If you cannot meet the financial requirements then the multiple entry non-o visa is your only option.

[francois]

Are you the legal father of your child by way of marriage or legitimization? If not all you can get is a single entry non-o visa and a 60 day extension at immigration. See::How To Gain Parental Rights As A Father

If you are the legal father you can get a one year extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai. You would need 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only or 40k baht income.

You can also get a multiple entry non-o visa at some embassies and consulates. At Savannakhet you could get one but you need your child and their mother with you to prove you are living together as a family (defacto marriage).

I'm the legal father, my daughter born in Chiang Mai, and declared there too.

I've the born paper with me.

the one year thing is interesting, but still need 400k in the bank, or 40k per month, I won't get this...

Your name on the birth certificate does not make you the legal father for visa and immigration purposes unless you were married to your child's mother either before or after their birth. If not you need to legitimize your parenthood to meet the requirements.

If you cannot meet the financial requirements then the multiple entry non-o visa is your only option.

not so long ago, being a father with officials papers were enough....

as we are not married, it's gonna be either a real ordeal, or non-O, hoping that like before, I can stay at least 5/6 months before visa trip to Vientiane....

anyway, retirement time would be for 2018/2019, so I have time and for sure some regulations can change again....

let's be positive, I'll do it!

[paz]

not so long ago, being a father with officials papers were enough....

as we are not married, it's gonna be either a real ordeal, or non-O, hoping that like before, I can stay at least 5/6 months before visa trip to Vientiane....

anyway, retirement time would be for 2018/2019, so I have time and for sure some regulations can change again....

let's be positive, I'll do it!

A name of birth certificate does not prove anything, there could be any name on it.

Getting you father's right is not much of an ordeal, can take 2 or 3 months at the local family court and cost few thousand Bt for a lawyer.

Many fathers here have done it without a problem, you can read or search the forum.

No regulations will change in your favor, perhaps the opposite.

[torrow]

Are you the legal father of your child by way of marriage or legitimization? If not all you can get is a single entry non-o visa and a 60 day extension at immigration. See::How To Gain Parental Rights As A Father

If you are the legal father you can get a one year extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai. You would need 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only or 40k baht income.

You can also get a multiple entry non-o visa at some embassies and consulates. At Savannakhet you could get one but you need your child and their mother with you to prove you are living together as a family (defacto marriage).

I'm the legal father, my daughter born in Chiang Mai, and declared there too.

I've the born paper with me.

the one year thing is interesting, but still need 400k in the bank, or 40k per month, I won't get this...

Your name on the birth certificate does not make you the legal father for visa and immigration purposes unless you were married to your child's mother either before or after their birth. If not you need to legitimize your parenthood to meet the requirements.

If you cannot meet the financial requirements then the multiple entry non-o visa is your only option.

Would you be kind enough to expand on what visa you are suggesting here and why... thanks

[Lite Beer]

A 12 month extension to stay with a Thai family Member.

In this case a child.

If he cannot meet the financial requirements he can get a Multi Entry Non Imm O Visa providing he is the legal Father.