Lite Beer Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 People are almost equally divided on proposed Prayut-Thaksin talks BANGKOK: -- Respondents were almost equally divided on whether there should be talks between Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha and fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in order to resolve deep-seated political conflict. Nida Poll showed that 34.96 percent of 1,254 respondents supported the reconciliation talks whereas 33.57 percent were against the idea. 22.09 percent said talks should begin only when Thaksin returned home to face his jailterm.The poll was conducted by the National Institute of Development Administration or Nida during February 18-19 on the topic of “talks between General Prayut and Thaksin”. A total of 1,254 samples were polled.On the issue of reconciliation, the poll showed 36.18 percent agreed that the law must be fairly applied to all political groups; 34.19 percent said all political groups must obey the law and the court’s verdicts; 11.74 percent said that all stakeholders must participate in reconciliation process; 7.03 percent said that there should be a blanket amnesty for all parties.43.3 percent believed that political conflict would remain even after the next election whereas 32.54 percent believed that political conflict would ease. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/people-almost-equally-divided-proposed-prayut-thaksin-talks -- Thai PBS 2015-02-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted February 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 There's nothing to talk about. Mr T is a convicted criminal facing further charges. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted February 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 I hate seeing the picture of the best PM in Thailand for decades, next to the picture of a criminal self exiled fugitive. As about the Nida Polls we all know that is a load of rubbish, just for media consumption. There will never be any talks between those 2. Political conflict will be solved eventually the hard or the soft way by the Prime Minister. Trust in him, he will deliver to us a better Thailand. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 ^^^ Delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 ^^^ different opinion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I hate seeing the picture of the best PM in Thailand for decades, next to the picture of a criminal self exiled fugitive. As about the Nida Polls we all know that is a load of rubbish, just for media consumption. There will never be any talks between those 2. Political conflict will be solved eventually the hard or the soft way by the Prime Minister. Trust in him, he will deliver to us a better Thailand. Of course there will be talks between them eventually either directly or indirectly. They need each other. And what exactly would be the "hard way" to solve political conflict? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaphod reborn Posted February 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 "7.03 percent said that there should be a blanket amnesty for all parties" For all of PTP's claims that they are the bastion of Thai democracy, how do they explain their actions in light of this poll finding? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beng Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 There's nothing to talk about. Mr T is a convicted criminal facing further charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I hate seeing the picture of the best PM in Thailand for decades, next to the picture of a criminal self exiled fugitive. As about the Nida Polls we all know that is a load of rubbish, just for media consumption. There will never be any talks between those 2. Political conflict will be solved eventually the hard or the soft way by the Prime Minister. Trust in him, he will deliver to us a better Thailand. Of course there will be talks between them eventually either directly or indirectly. They need each other. And what exactly would be the "hard way" to solve political conflict? You won't get an answer to that. Costas never fortifies his posts. He just post's Troll-Like Rhetoric and splits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "7.03 percent said that there should be a blanket amnesty for all parties" For all of PTP's claims that they are the bastion of Thai democracy, how do they explain their actions in light of this poll finding? Thats if you take the numbers in the polls seriously. They are just a ruse , attempting to reassure people that their opinions count for something or the Junta actually cares about their opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skywalker69 Posted February 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) I hate seeing the picture of the best PM in Thailand for decades, next to the picture of a criminal self exiled fugitive. As about the Nida Polls we all know that is a load of rubbish, just for media consumption. There will never be any talks between those 2. Political conflict will be solved eventually the hard or the soft way by the Prime Minister. Trust in him, he will deliver to us a better Thailand. Of course there will be talks between them eventually either directly or indirectly. They need each other.And what exactly would be the "hard way" to solve political conflict? You won't get an answer to that. Costas never fortifies his posts. He just post's Troll-Like Rhetoric and splits. Pot...Kettle....Black Edited February 22, 2015 by Skywalker69 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricardo Posted February 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 There are no proposed-talks to consider, just a rumour from an alleged PTP-source, a straw to test which way the wind might blow. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaphod reborn Posted February 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "7.03 percent said that there should be a blanket amnesty for all parties" For all of PTP's claims that they are the bastion of Thai democracy, how do they explain their actions in light of this poll finding? Thats if you take the numbers in the polls seriously. They are just a ruse , attempting to reassure people that their opinions count for something or the Junta actually cares about their opinion Or that PTP's claim to be acting on the people's will, isn't what they claim. PTP's political platform is really two-fold: have Thaksin return to Thailand to lead their party and to use the electorate to enrich the party and it's members - they don't give a crock about democracy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Forget it...it's not going to happen. Next ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Without reform, Thailand will be b"ggered, in the short to medium-term. The genie is out of the bottle! People call Thaksin a crook, what about the mad-monk, and thousands of others of the establlshment!!?? I believe that a similar situation existed in the UK around a century ago, things changed! (I am not a socialist). Mr T was only very much more successfully corrupt than his established opponents! They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 People are almost equally divided on proposed Prayut-Thaksin talks who cares? Neither one of them put the Thai people first. Just another poll that doesn't make any difference to anyone. Interesting, though, to see that there are still around 20% hard-core Thaksin haters out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 People are almost equally divided on proposed Prayut-Thaksin talks who cares? Neither one of them put the Thai people first. Just another poll that doesn't make any difference to anyone. Interesting, though, to see that there are still around 20% hard-core Thaksin haters out there... Some will put the interests of many more of the Thai people ahead of the one percenters. That is the point that I am making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 People are almost equally divided on proposed Prayut-Thaksin talks who cares? Neither one of them put the Thai people first. Just another poll that doesn't make any difference to anyone. Interesting, though, to see that there are still around 20% hard-core Thaksin haters out there... Probably more like 50% Thaksin-lovers but, ho-hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted February 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 So in fact there is not such an even divide as the headline would suggest for 35.57% said no talks and 22.09% said no talks without him coming back to do his time. We all know he will never come back and do time so therefore 57.66% said no talks. Heck that's an even bigger landslide than Yingluck got. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 People are almost equally divided on proposed Prayut-Thaksin talks who cares? Neither one of them put the Thai people first. Just another poll that doesn't make any difference to anyone. Interesting, though, to see that there are still around 20% hard-core Thaksin haters out there... Probably more like 50% Thaksin-lovers but, ho-hum. Love him or hate him, he is one of very few that learnt about democracy! He just did what democrats do all over the the world, identified a constituency, and then appealed to them by financial means. The point being that, for the poorest in Thai society, there is no tax & benefit system, with which to bribe people. 500 Baht notes are the norm, rather than bribing people in the west with tax & spend. The system is rotten-to -the-core in Thailand (The country that I love!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 So in fact there is not such an even divide as the headline would suggest for 35.57% said no talks and 22.09% said no talks without him coming back to do his time. We all know he will never come back and do time so therefore 57.66% said no talks. Heck that's an even bigger landslide than Yingluck got. BS polls V democracy. very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfree2 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Let me guess, just like with the "economical approval survey," almost 50% of those surveyed didn't even respond. Thais don't care. Mai suun jai. As long as Thai guys can "look for girl" and Thai girls can "take another selfie" what is the significance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 So in fact there is not such an even divide as the headline would suggest for 35.57% said no talks and 22.09% said no talks without him coming back to do his time. We all know he will never come back and do time so therefore 57.66% said no talks. Heck that's an even bigger landslide than Yingluck got. Robbie, rich people do not go to prison in Thailand. Wake-up and smell the coffee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samii Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "7.03 percent said that there should be a blanket amnesty for all parties" For all of PTP's claims that they are the bastion of Thai democracy, how do they explain their actions in light of this poll finding? Thats if you take the numbers in the polls seriously. They are just a ruse , attempting to reassure people that their opinions count for something or the Junta actually cares about their opinion Or that PTP's claim to be acting on the people's will, isn't what they claim. PTP's political platform is really two-fold: have Thaksin return to Thailand to lead their party and to use the electorate to enrich the party and it's members - they don't give a crock about democracy. Well is that not what Thais "want". I have, and many others, understood that "Thais" do not want democracy. We are not ready for it or something like that. According you Mr. T does not give a hick about democracy. So get him back ... Oh yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "7.03 percent said that there should be a blanket amnesty for all parties" For all of PTP's claims that they are the bastion of Thai democracy, how do they explain their actions in light of this poll finding? Thats if you take the numbers in the polls seriously. They are just a ruse , attempting to reassure people that their opinions count for something or the Junta actually cares about their opinion Or that PTP's claim to be acting on the people's will, isn't what they claim. PTP's political platform is really two-fold: have Thaksin return to Thailand to lead their party and to use the electorate to enrich the party and it's members - they don't give a crock about democracy. Well is that not what Thais "want". I have, and many others, understood that "Thais" do not want democracy. We are not ready for it or something like that. According you Mr. T does not give a hick about democracy. So get him back ... Oh yes! Maybe only one Thai wants it. Even if it is only Mr T offering some semblence of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Totally daft idea. Prayuth has absolutely no reason to speak with Thaksin. Doing so would be like an acknowledgement of continuing Shinawatra power. The best thing Prayuth can do is press on with his agenda. Thaksin would be better off staying silent and playing a waiting game until such time that he can either come back to a rapturous reception or otherwise be dragged back to face the music. But for the rest of us, the best possible thing would be if neither of them were involved in the first place, and there was a new generation of politicians ready to take the country into the unknown territory of redless and yellowless politics. Best not hold any breath on that one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Totally daft idea. Prayuth has absolutely no reason to speak with Thaksin. Doing so would be like an acknowledgement of continuing Shinawatra power. The best thing Prayuth can do is press on with his agenda. Thaksin would be better off staying silent and playing a waiting game until such time that he can either come back to a rapturous reception or otherwise be dragged back to face the music. But for the rest of us, the best possible thing would be if neither of them were involved in the first place, and there was a new generation of politicians ready to take the country into the unknown territory of redless and yellowless politics. Best not hold any breath on that one. I absolutely agree with you, but in the real world, this ain't going to happen. The rest of us are not Thais. Assuming that the majority of TV posters are not Thai. I have dissented mildly, but far too much! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 So in fact there is not such an even divide as the headline would suggest for 35.57% said no talks and 22.09% said no talks without him coming back to do his time. We all know he will never come back and do time so therefore 57.66% said no talks. Heck that's an even bigger landslide than Yingluck got. Robbie, rich people do not go to prison in Thailand. Wake-up and smell the coffee! What was that you said : http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/801187-ex-cib-chief-pongpat-gets-10-years-for-money-laundering/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Excepting the dubious nature of Thai polling, what number stands out most to me is this, "11.74 percent said that all stakeholders must participate in reconciliation process". What an amazing number of only 11.7% that think this. Now I am not an advocate of the PM having discussions with Thaksin or any of the Shin clan of crooks, however the people of the north and northeast as well as the rest of the country are most definitely stakeholders in a successful reconciliation. That a number this low comes out of a poll is ludicrous at best and if true the country is to divided to be reconciled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Interesting, no one believes the poll and all discuss the figures as if they mean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now