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Is it ONLY in Thailand that this type of incident happens?

Where was it mentioned that she was a bar girl?

Where was it mentioned that he was very educated?

There are many sick people in Thailand, for sure.

The Thai immigration sure must be more careful and thorough to separate the chaff from the wheat to avoid these incidents in the future.

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Why on earth do well-educated men ruin their lives over scamming bar girls?

Speculating perhaps but the odds are this is the fact

Yes, why? I keep asking that to myself. Can the power of pus*y be that strong?

Every day we read about something like this, it freaks me out, I'll be in Thailand for the first time in my life over a couple of months.

What I'm also learning here is that it's better to stay away from bar girls or you just have to be that strong to enjoy and move on, never repeat with the same lady.

RIP to the guy.

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wait the fact. do not accuse false. I was just child 12 years old Believe. that sunaree not the culprit. also better than those who are older. Favorites accuse false. by not wait for an answer.

Why girl bar .it bad that much ?.

bar girl she worked on this for poor familie. It was not bad everything .

Damn..........!!!!

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Arthur was a business partner and a friend of mine. He did not drink, nor took drugs. He had some issues apparently, weather girl trouble or business-related. He was an importer of Russian vodka and had dealings with Alcatel to launch sales of a few phone models in Thailand. Please give Arthur, his family, and friends some respect by not developing conspiracy theories and other rubbish relating to him and those involved. R.I.P. Arthur.

Pulleeeeaze. The guy was a scammer and a con artist. Amazing he wasn't blacklisted a few years ago when he was caught with his first publicly known con the driver license thing. He was hooked on Thailand and was going to do anything he could to stay there. What business of his were you a partner of? Let us know so we can avoid that one.

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I just don't believe that so many farang commit suicides, and so many of them are with these circumstances of a recent fight with their Thai girl or wife. I could nominally expect the guy might be mad and shoot the girl for pestering him. But so many stories of the farang jumping out of a 36 floor balcony or shooting or hanging himself. I just think it is statistically unlike anything experienced in other countries. But I have no data to support that.

Thailand is a magnet for all sorts of "business men", miserable lowlifes and sad little mommy's boys who can't get laid any where else. I'm not surprised at all that they drop like fly's .Blaming Thais for westerners lack of character is just sad.

Sounds like you are into Mommys ! You know what they say,it takes one to find one.

Actually I prefer women over girls and purely for selfish reasons.

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Most of the stories we read about expat suicides in Pattaya are probably true , but in this case I smell BS . I hope the police will investigate this as a possible murder case.

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Is it ONLY in Thailand that this type of incident happens?

Where was it mentioned that she was a bar girl?

Where was it mentioned that he was very educated?

There are many sick people in Thailand, for sure.

The Thai immigration sure must be more careful and thorough to separate the chaff from the wheat to avoid these incidents in the future.

Your comment has got to be the most ludicrous I have read here in a while.(The Thai immigration sure must be more careful and thorough to separate the chaff from the wheat to avoid these incidents in the future.)xsick.gif.pagespeed.ic.tVTSNn-2vrViiesVr

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wait the fact. do not accuse false. I was just child 12 years old Believe. that sunaree not the culprit. also better than those who are older. Favorites accuse false. by not wait for an answer.
Why girl bar .it bad that much ?.
bar girl she worked on this for poor familie. It was not bad everything .
Damn..........!!!!

What?

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There was a great French sociologist more than 100 years ago, Emile Durkheim.

He made an internationa comparative (quantitative) analysis of suicide rates, by religion and country.

Let alone the special case of Japan his conclusion was that it is the rather atheistic Puritanistic societies that have the highest suicide rate.

According to German sociologist Max Weber, this "Protestantic ethic" is a perequesite for running "rational" bureaucracies.

And according to Karl Marx, religions are the common prerequisite to keep people looking away from economic (self-destroying) "rationality"

For me, the implications of big money is clear:

The system is self-destroying, and suicide is the only way out for those who run it.

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Just reading these comments and other news in Thailand make me sad and disgusted with the disturbing number of sadistic and disturbed expats living there.

Every man has a limit of how much he can swallow, and I've had mine. I for one, have left for a far better place and happy I did. From Bangkok/Pattaya to Phuket/Samui, these cesspools are filled with low-class deviants. The filthy beaches, littered sois, corrupt officials, congested and deadly roadways, are only getting worse… much worse.

For those of you decent folk still there, stop lying to yourself and wake up. Aren't you tired of this shit by now? My exit came last year when a couple of dead bodies washed up on my beach, shortly after, my neighbor was hacked near his home with an axe.

When you’re done with the bargirls and over the haze of the bar, try venturing outside the country. There are plenty of fantastic places to call home.

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Dear Seducedbytheseas,

you're right in your way.

But be aware, many country folks had to go to the tourist centres to work there.

That's a normal migration process in developing nations.

They were bashed by propaganda. Propaganda is nothing new.

The radical innovations are ATMs and modern communication systems (Internet), and no one in Europe can claim a patent for these innovations.

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The OP seems to bandy the term "businessman" around rather generously in describing the farang low lifes who hang around in Pattaya, Phuket and Samui. The victim here was arrested in 2012 for selling fake Thai driving licences to other farangs. Surprising that he wasn't in prison.

It's time Thailand introduced home country police record as a requirement for non-tourist visas. That would make a dent in the foreigner low life population, although it would also dent the income of local police who team up with foreign criminals only too readily like birds of a feather.

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The first line of inquiry should be, would the girlfriend benefit from this guy`s death? Such as his luxury home, other assets or money? Or in other words, would she have a motive for killing him or arranging someone else to murder the guy?

But my educated guess is; that this case will be filed under, could be and no more will be heard about this again.

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I just don't believe that so many farang commit suicides, and so many of them are with these circumstances of a recent fight with their Thai girl or wife. I could nominally expect the guy might be mad and shoot the girl for pestering him. But so many stories of the farang jumping out of a 36 floor balcony or shooting or hanging himself. I just think it is statistically unlike anything experienced in other countries. But I have no data to support that.

Well, the quality of these foreigners are not the same as those going to, say, Hong Kong, Switzerland or even the US.

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_(book)

Google for 'anomie', and you will find more.

Data for Germans should be available at Deutscher Hilfverein in Bangkok or Pattaya.

They are quite puritanistic there, but if you know how to get raw data anonymized by using SAS or SPSS, and find a Thai to do this, they might be interested.

I'm not 100pct sure about Thai privacy laws, but if you come up with a good reason they might be ready to help. You would probably need a University Professor's guarantee that you don't misuse the data.

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Here's one of Emile Durkheim's results:

Men get depressed and tend to commit suicide when their wives die.

Women improve on life quality and are happy when their husbands are dead (their suicide rate decreases)

Can you imagine the scandal in 1900 ?

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I just don't believe that so many farang commit suicides, and so many of them are with these circumstances of a recent fight with their Thai girl or wife. I could nominally expect the guy might be mad and shoot the girl for pestering him. But so many stories of the farang jumping out of a 36 floor balcony or shooting or hanging himself. I just think it is statistically unlike anything experienced in other countries. But I have no data to support that.

You haven't considered the 'retard factor'. Thailand seems to attract more retards and deadsheets than other countries. Just take a look around at the quality of farang both tourist and expat.

Is it really any wonder why so many really meet an untimely end ?

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All the idiot posters, Thai-bashers, legal experts, crime scene investigators and forensic specialists on here who use the phrase "case closed" in their posts should read the bloody report properly and they would see that it states that the police are still investigating this case.

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Guy was a woman beater, fooled around on his girlfriend, she told him it was over and she was leaving him, he shoots himself.

Moral of the story: Don't have pictures of other women on your not-so-smart phone.

That's her side of the story, but we will never know his side of what happened.

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now through stupidity going to lose his girlfriend

in Pattaya you never "lose your girlfriend", but rather "finally get rid of her" and pop a champagne bottle for the cheerish obcasion. This story of suicide because of bitch finally leaving the premises is just total bullshit.

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