Ex-minister Boonsong, 20 others, indicted over rice deals

[webfact]

Ex-minister Boonsong, 20 others, indicted over rice deals

The Office of the Attorney-General (OAG) Tuesday indicted former commerce minister Boonsong Teriyapirom and 20 others in the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders for alleged wrongdoing over the government-to-government rice deals.

The OAG took the recommendation of the National Anti-Corruption Commission to indict the 21 people for offences in connection with the case pending in the Supreme Court against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra in connection with the rice pledging-scheme.

The OAG accused the 21 people of conspiring to commit offences, committing and supporting malfeasance and corruption in accordance with the Offences Relating to the Submission of Bids to State Agencies Act 1999, the Criminal Code, and the National Anti-Corruption Act.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Ex-minister-Boonsong-20-others-indicted-over-rice--30256187.html


-- The Nation 2015-03-17

[JOC]

Go easy on the guys!!

They were just lying and stealing.

Normal behavior for politicians worldwide!!

[LuckyLew]

Hey Thaksin .... how many spare rooms you got?

Think you gonna have a lot of visitors soon

[trogers]

Go easy on the guys!!

They were just lying and stealing.

Normal behavior for politicians worldwide!!

Some are just foot soldiers, like those that lobbed grenades.

[bangkokfrog]

They will be dumped. like most of the other expendables !

[webfact]

Boonsong, 20 others indicted over rice deals
THE NATION



BANGKOK: -- FORMER commerce minister Boonsong Teriyapirom and 20 others were indicted by the Office of the Attorney-General (OAG) yesterday in the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders for alleged wrongdoing over "fake government-to-government" rice deals.

The OAG took the recommendation of the National Anti-Corruption Commission to indict the 21 people for offences in connection with the case pending in the Supreme Court against former PM Yingluck Shinawatra, related to the rice-pledging scheme.

The OAG accused the 21 people of conspiring to commit offences, committing and supporting malfeasance and corruption in accordance with the Offences Relating to the Submission of Bids to State Agencies Act 1999, the Criminal Code, and the Organic Law on Anti-Corruption Act.

Some of these offences carry a maximum penalty of life imprisonment and a fine of up to Bt35.2 billion.

The OAG submitted a writ presented by the anti-graft agency to the court, plus 205 boxes of documents.

The lawsuit was filed against three political office holders: Boonsong; former deputy commerce minister Poom Sarapol and then secretary to the commerce minister Maj Weerawut Watchanaphukka. It also named three civil servants: former Foreign Trade deputy head Tikhumporn Natvaratat, former rice stock director Akarapong Dipavajra, and former International Department chief Manas Sroyploy.

Private sector parties named among the 21 accused include executives and directors of Siam Indica, a major rice-trading company.

After the suit is filed, the Supreme Court will meet to select within 14 days a panel of nine judges whose ranks must not be lower than Supreme Court judges, or senior judges in the Supreme Court. The panel of nine judges will select a presiding judge and decide whether to accept the suit on April 20 and schedule the first hearing.

Boonsong, Poom and Manas, also face impeachment in the National Legislative Assembly. Proceedings against them are due to start on April 2 for alleged corruption, malfeasance and negligence that caused massive damage to the state in connection with the scrapped rice-pledging scheme.

The NACC has resolved that there were grounds to believe the trio committed several criminal offences, in accordance with anti-graft law, and sought impeachment proceedings against them. Although the three no longer hold their former roles, they will be barred from politics for five years if they are impeached.

The case is a different suit to the one filed by the OAG against Boonsong and 20 others for allegedly faking government-to-government rice deals so they could manipulate the government’s stockpiles.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Boonsong-20-others-indicted-over-rice-deals-30256235.html


-- The Nation 2015-03-18

[rametindallas]

Let's see. They used their public trust as officers of the government to make a 'sale on paper' at below market price and well below the price the government (taxpayers) paid for it and the rice, while never leaving the warehouse, is resold, at a discount, back to a Thai company (with strong links to Thaksin Shinawatra) to be sold in Thailand in competition with all the other rice the government needs to sell. (a true government to government sale sees the rice leave and be consumed in another country) In the process they made millions off the taxpayers who subsidized the rice they sold. What a beautiful scam and the Yingluck government would have been able to keep it secret if not for their failed attempt to whitewash Thaksin's sins through the 'blanket' amnesty that got the public riled up and protesting in the streets. The government may have still survived to cover up their wrongdoing but for their UDD hired guns throwing hand grenades at the protesters which eventually involved the Royal Thai Army. There are still a lot more of Thaksin's turds clogging the toilet and it is dirty business for the current government to clean it up.

[Eric Loh]

Let's see. They used their public trust as officers of the government to make a 'sale on paper' at below market price and well below the price the government (taxpayers) paid for it and the rice, while never leaving the warehouse, is resold, at a discount, back to a Thai company (with strong links to Thaksin Shinawatra) to be sold in Thailand in competition with all the other rice the government needs to sell. (a true government to government sale sees the rice leave and be consumed in another country) In the process they made millions off the taxpayers who subsidized the rice they sold. What a beautiful scam and the Yingluck government would have been able to keep it secret if not for their failed attempt to whitewash Thaksin's sins through the 'blanket' amnesty that got the public riled up and protesting in the streets. The government may have still survived to cover up their wrongdoing but for their UDD hired guns throwing hand grenades at the protesters which eventually involved the Royal Thai Army. There are still a lot more of Thaksin's turds clogging the toilet and it is dirty business for the current government to clean it up.

A rather small detail have been left out like the court have not accepted the case and the no one have been convicted yet. Oh, even the judges have not been appointed. Nice piece of useless essay though.

[trogers]

Let's see. They used their public trust as officers of the government to make a 'sale on paper' at below market price and well below the price the government (taxpayers) paid for it and the rice, while never leaving the warehouse, is resold, at a discount, back to a Thai company (with strong links to Thaksin Shinawatra) to be sold in Thailand in competition with all the other rice the government needs to sell. (a true government to government sale sees the rice leave and be consumed in another country) In the process they made millions off the taxpayers who subsidized the rice they sold. What a beautiful scam and the Yingluck government would have been able to keep it secret if not for their failed attempt to whitewash Thaksin's sins through the 'blanket' amnesty that got the public riled up and protesting in the streets. The government may have still survived to cover up their wrongdoing but for their UDD hired guns throwing hand grenades at the protesters which eventually involved the Royal Thai Army. There are still a lot more of Thaksin's turds clogging the toilet and it is dirty business for the current government to clean it up.

A rather small detail have been left out like the court have not accepted the case and the no one have been convicted yet. Oh, even the judges have not been appointed. Nice piece of useless essay though.

I believe there was an actual G2G sales, to Timbuktu.

[Baerboxer]

Let's see. They used their public trust as officers of the government to make a 'sale on paper' at below market price and well below the price the government (taxpayers) paid for it and the rice, while never leaving the warehouse, is resold, at a discount, back to a Thai company (with strong links to Thaksin Shinawatra) to be sold in Thailand in competition with all the other rice the government needs to sell. (a true government to government sale sees the rice leave and be consumed in another country) In the process they made millions off the taxpayers who subsidized the rice they sold. What a beautiful scam and the Yingluck government would have been able to keep it secret if not for their failed attempt to whitewash Thaksin's sins through the 'blanket' amnesty that got the public riled up and protesting in the streets. The government may have still survived to cover up their wrongdoing but for their UDD hired guns throwing hand grenades at the protesters which eventually involved the Royal Thai Army. There are still a lot more of Thaksin's turds clogging the toilet and it is dirty business for the current government to clean it up.

Sums it up pretty well. No wonder Thaksin was anxious to keep PTP in power as caretakers and then push an election through to hopefully manipulate a new mandate. Both to cover up this, and no doubt some others yet to come to light, and also to be in a position to write his amnesty into law when it returned back to the lower house. Crafty as a barrel load of monkey's and Thailand should be eternally grateful that he miscalculated the public reaction to his attempt at self whitewashing.

Wonder if any of the turds will decide to start singing and trade information for leniency. Maybe once they realize their disposable and past their use by date.

[tomacht8]

Some of these offences carry a maximum penalty of life imprisonment and a fine of up to Bt35.2 billion.

That would be a good starter.

[billd766]

Let's see. They used their public trust as officers of the government to make a 'sale on paper' at below market price and well below the price the government (taxpayers) paid for it and the rice, while never leaving the warehouse, is resold, at a discount, back to a Thai company (with strong links to Thaksin Shinawatra) to be sold in Thailand in competition with all the other rice the government needs to sell. (a true government to government sale sees the rice leave and be consumed in another country) In the process they made millions off the taxpayers who subsidized the rice they sold. What a beautiful scam and the Yingluck government would have been able to keep it secret if not for their failed attempt to whitewash Thaksin's sins through the 'blanket' amnesty that got the public riled up and protesting in the streets. The government may have still survived to cover up their wrongdoing but for their UDD hired guns throwing hand grenades at the protesters which eventually involved the Royal Thai Army. There are still a lot more of Thaksin's turds clogging the toilet and it is dirty business for the current government to clean it up.

A rather small detail have been left out like the court have not accepted the case and the no one have been convicted yet. Oh, even the judges have not been appointed. Nice piece of useless essay though.

So what will you say Eric if the court accepts the case, fids the defendants guilty and sentences them to jail?

It was just another meaningless political trial? That they weren't really guilty and it is all a conspiracy?

[gemguy]

Good ....people should be held accountable.

Now...question is......will any of the present government administrators be held accountable for their misdeeds and malfeasance when they are exposed.

Or is this judicial system legitimized only for the people who have the means to control its direction.

Cheers

[MaxLee]

Ex-minister Boonsong, 20 others, indicted over rice deals

Indicted and put on hold until further notice,... is it???

Edited March 18, 2015 by MaxLee

[whybother]

Good ....people should be held accountable.

Now...question is......will any of the present government administrators be held accountable for their misdeeds and malfeasance when they are exposed.

Or is this judicial system legitimized only for the people who have the means to control its direction.

Cheers

It seems you've found them guilty of misdeeds and malfeasance before they've even been exposed.

[harveyw]

Only 20 ,must be a few hundred breathing a sigh of relief !!

[AleG]

Let's see. They used their public trust as officers of the government to make a 'sale on paper' at below market price and well below the price the government (taxpayers) paid for it and the rice, while never leaving the warehouse, is resold, at a discount, back to a Thai company (with strong links to Thaksin Shinawatra) to be sold in Thailand in competition with all the other rice the government needs to sell. (a true government to government sale sees the rice leave and be consumed in another country) In the process they made millions off the taxpayers who subsidized the rice they sold. What a beautiful scam and the Yingluck government would have been able to keep it secret if not for their failed attempt to whitewash Thaksin's sins through the 'blanket' amnesty that got the public riled up and protesting in the streets. The government may have still survived to cover up their wrongdoing but for their UDD hired guns throwing hand grenades at the protesters which eventually involved the Royal Thai Army. There are still a lot more of Thaksin's turds clogging the toilet and it is dirty business for the current government to clean it up.

A rather small detail have been left out like the court have not accepted the case and the no one have been convicted yet. Oh, even the judges have not been appointed. Nice piece of useless essay though.

So what will you say Eric if the court accepts the case, fids the defendants guilty and sentences them to jail?

It was just another meaningless political trial? That they weren't really guilty and it is all a conspiracy?

The answer is, of course, the same as always: "the case was politically motivated", with "kangaroo court" and "witch hunt" thrown in for good measure and more likely than not the guest appearance of "... but Suthep!" to close the act.

Edited March 18, 2015 by AleG

[Thai at Heart]

How did they ever think they would get away with shonky invoicing like this?

Surely someone at customs has to go?

[rametindallas]

From October 29, 2012

This refers to the Thai idiom that says wimpy men hide under the skirts of powerful women for protection. Here two ministers are thought to owe their continuing jobs in government to their loyalty to key Shinawatra relatives. The “two sisses” refers to Thaksin’s sisters PM Yingluck Shinawatra and his elder sister Yaowapha Wongsawad, who is believed to be the most powerful person in the Phua Thai Party after Thaksin

From October 25, 2012

The woman is Yaowapa Wongsawad, Thaksin’s sister, and a major force in the government. The man carrying rice bags is Commerce Minister Boonsong Teriyapirom. The 3G auction was criticized for allowing several major companies to collude on bidding.
In the cartoon, “2G” refers to the “government-to-government” rice trading deals Boonsong claimed he has made. He refused to provide any details of the deals claiming that it would compromise the deals. Many are suspicious as to whether the deals really exist.

Edited March 19, 2015 by rametindallas

[metisdead]

A post in violation of fair use policy has been removed as well as a reply.

[rubl]

Let's see. They used their public trust as officers of the government to make a 'sale on paper' at below market price and well below the price the government (taxpayers) paid for it and the rice, while never leaving the warehouse, is resold, at a discount, back to a Thai company (with strong links to Thaksin Shinawatra) to be sold in Thailand in competition with all the other rice the government needs to sell. (a true government to government sale sees the rice leave and be consumed in another country) In the process they made millions off the taxpayers who subsidized the rice they sold. What a beautiful scam and the Yingluck government would have been able to keep it secret if not for their failed attempt to whitewash Thaksin's sins through the 'blanket' amnesty that got the public riled up and protesting in the streets. The government may have still survived to cover up their wrongdoing but for their UDD hired guns throwing hand grenades at the protesters which eventually involved the Royal Thai Army. There are still a lot more of Thaksin's turds clogging the toilet and it is dirty business for the current government to clean it up.

A rather small detail have been left out like the court have not accepted the case and the no one have been convicted yet. Oh, even the judges have not been appointed. Nice piece of useless essay though.

The case and the information already provided makes it most likely the Supreme Court will accept the case. Of course if they do, you can still write about 'kangaroo court' like you did in the Yingluck topic. You could even add your ingenious

" "The Supreme Court has the responsibility to accept the case and the verdict will tell if this is another purge attempt on the Shins or if proper due process of law was practiced, rule her not guilty.""

[rubl]

How did they ever think they would get away with shonky invoicing like this?

Surely someone at customs has to go?

Rumour has it nothing was exported, but just resold locally.

[PETERTHEEATER]

Let's see. They used their public trust as officers of the government to make a 'sale on paper' at below market price and well below the price the government (taxpayers) paid for it and the rice, while never leaving the warehouse, is resold, at a discount, back to a Thai company (with strong links to Thaksin Shinawatra) to be sold in Thailand in competition with all the other rice the government needs to sell. (a true government to government sale sees the rice leave and be consumed in another country) In the process they made millions off the taxpayers who subsidized the rice they sold. What a beautiful scam and the Yingluck government would have been able to keep it secret if not for their failed attempt to whitewash Thaksin's sins through the 'blanket' amnesty that got the public riled up and protesting in the streets. The government may have still survived to cover up their wrongdoing but for their UDD hired guns throwing hand grenades at the protesters which eventually involved the Royal Thai Army. There are still a lot more of Thaksin's turds clogging the toilet and it is dirty business for the current government to clean it up.

A rather small detail have been left out like the court have not accepted the case and the no one have been convicted yet. Oh, even the judges have not been appointed. Nice piece of useless essay though.

I believe there was an actual G2G sales, to Timbuktu.

Timbuktu is not a national government, it is a city in the nation of Mali.....next!

[Thai at Heart]

How did they ever think they would get away with shonky invoicing like this?

Surely someone at customs has to go?

Rumour has it nothing was exported, but just resold locally.

But surely when one applies to export something like this, they would have at least bothered to go through the attempt to appear as though something was exported.

How does one just kamoi thousands of tonnes of rice.? Someone at customs has stamped a paper claiming it was exported but in reality spirited into the domestic market.

[rubl]

How did they ever think they would get away with shonky invoicing like this?

Surely someone at customs has to go?

Rumour has it nothing was exported, but just resold locally.

But surely when one applies to export something like this, they would have at least bothered to go through the attempt to appear as though something was exported.

How does one just kamoi thousands of tonnes of rice.? Someone at customs has stamped a paper claiming it was exported but in reality spirited into the domestic market.

Details in a topic from the 13th of March, 2015. A topic you may have missed as you didn't post in it.

I posted a few info bits and links. Amongst others it had

"2015-02-12

"In it's investigation, the NACC found that both the Ministers are accused of falsifying G2G rice deals for about 1.2m tonnes between Thailand and China in 2013. The agency noted the deal never happened and the rice was sold locally. It stated the rice was sold to two China-based companies at prices lower than the pledging price, who in tuern sold it to a Thai private company to resell. The NACC said the two companies were not acting on behalf of the Chinese government.""

http://www.oryza.com/thai-nacc-recommend-legal-action-g2g-rice-deals-china

just read

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/808264-top-commerce-officials-fired-for-fake-g2g-thai-rice-deal-with-china/#entry9182575

[Thai at Heart]

How did they ever think they would get away with shonky invoicing like this?

Surely someone at customs has to go?

Rumour has it nothing was exported, but just resold locally.

But surely when one applies to export something like this, they would have at least bothered to go through the attempt to appear as though something was exported.

How does one just kamoi thousands of tonnes of rice.? Someone at customs has stamped a paper claiming it was exported but in reality spirited into the domestic market.

Details in a topic from the 13th of March, 2015. A topic you may have missed as you didn't post in it.

I posted a few info bits and links. Amongst others it had

"2015-02-12

"In it's investigation, the NACC found that both the Ministers are accused of falsifying G2G rice deals for about 1.2m tonnes between Thailand and China in 2013. The agency noted the deal never happened and the rice was sold locally. It stated the rice was sold to two China-based companies at prices lower than the pledging price, who in tuern sold it to a Thai private company to resell. The NACC said the two companies were not acting on behalf of the Chinese government.""

http://www.oryza.com/thai-nacc-recommend-legal-action-g2g-rice-deals-china

just read

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/808264-top-commerce-officials-fired-for-fake-g2g-thai-rice-deal-with-china/#entry9182575

I know this. Thing is, you don't just not export stuff. It has to be licensed and the such, paperwork and others.

So this means customs either didn't do anything which is wrong or they falsified a load of documents. Dozens of people must have known. Very crude fraud

[rubl]

Rumour has it nothing was exported, but just resold locally.

But surely when one applies to export something like this, they would have at least bothered to go through the attempt to appear as though something was exported.

How does one just kamoi thousands of tonnes of rice.? Someone at customs has stamped a paper claiming it was exported but in reality spirited into the domestic market.

Details in a topic from the 13th of March, 2015. A topic you may have missed as you didn't post in it.

I posted a few info bits and links. Amongst others it had

"2015-02-12

"In it's investigation, the NACC found that both the Ministers are accused of falsifying G2G rice deals for about 1.2m tonnes between Thailand and China in 2013. The agency noted the deal never happened and the rice was sold locally. It stated the rice was sold to two China-based companies at prices lower than the pledging price, who in tuern sold it to a Thai private company to resell. The NACC said the two companies were not acting on behalf of the Chinese government.""

http://www.oryza.com/thai-nacc-recommend-legal-action-g2g-rice-deals-china

just read

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/808264-top-commerce-officials-fired-for-fake-g2g-thai-rice-deal-with-china/#entry9182575

I know this. Thing is, you don't just not export stuff. It has to be licensed and the such, paperwork and others.

So this means customs either didn't do anything which is wrong or they falsified a load of documents. Dozens of people must have known. Very crude fraud

Normally speaking Customs should have been involved as this was a G2G deal, allegedly. From information available it is not clear though if Customs provided correct documents based on falsified documents, provided fake documents, or did get bypassed. The court case should offer more insight in how this crime was committed.

[Thai at Heart]

Rumour has it nothing was exported, but just resold locally.

But surely when one applies to export something like this, they would have at least bothered to go through the attempt to appear as though something was exported.

How does one just kamoi thousands of tonnes of rice.? Someone at customs has stamped a paper claiming it was exported but in reality spirited into the domestic market.

Details in a topic from the 13th of March, 2015. A topic you may have missed as you didn't post in it.

I posted a few info bits and links. Amongst others it had

"2015-02-12

"In it's investigation, the NACC found that both the Ministers are accused of falsifying G2G rice deals for about 1.2m tonnes between Thailand and China in 2013. The agency noted the deal never happened and the rice was sold locally. It stated the rice was sold to two China-based companies at prices lower than the pledging price, who in tuern sold it to a Thai private company to resell. The NACC said the two companies were not acting on behalf of the Chinese government.""

http://www.oryza.com/thai-nacc-recommend-legal-action-g2g-rice-deals-china

just read

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/808264-top-commerce-officials-fired-for-fake-g2g-thai-rice-deal-with-china/#entry9182575

I know this. Thing is, you don't just not export stuff. It has to be licensed and the such, paperwork and others.

So this means customs either didn't do anything which is wrong or they falsified a load of documents. Dozens of people must have known. Very crude fraud

Normally speaking Customs should have been involved as this was a G2G deal, allegedly. From information available it is not clear though if Customs provided correct documents based on falsified documents, provided fake documents, or did get bypassed. The court case should offer more insight in how this crime was committed.

How do you ship something in this volume from Bangkok to China without customs being involved?

With WinZip? Of course customs and excise dept are involved. Oh whoops guys, yeah, there is a 1mn tonne shipment coming through the port,but don't worry,no paperwork needed...

There must be a massive amount of false paperwork. Normally these shipments are only done against LC.

So a bank must be involved too

[rubl]

Normally speaking Customs should have been involved as this was a G2G deal, allegedly. From information available it is not clear though if Customs provided correct documents based on falsified documents, provided fake documents, or did get bypassed. The court case should offer more insight in how this crime was committed.

How do you ship something in this volume from Bangkok to China without customs being involved?

With WinZip? Of course customs and excise dept are involved. Oh whoops guys, yeah, there is a 1mn tonne shipment coming through the port,but don't worry,no paperwork needed...

There must be a massive amount of false paperwork. Normally these shipments are only done against LC.

So a bank must be involved too

Without further information, you're getting into real speculation. I prefer to wait.

[Ricardo]

Aren't Customs concerned primarily with shipments into the country, not outbound ?

I must remember to try to clear Customs, next time I fly out of Swampy, just to see if it's even possible !