PM received list of allegedly corrupt officials

[Fat Haggis]

No mention of the any corruption within the Military there BB? ?

[phoenixdoglover]

There was:

38. In future no official shall put anyone to trial merely on his own testimony, without reliable witnesses produced for this purpose.

39. No freeman shall be arrested or imprisoned or deprived of his freehold or outlawed or banished or in any way ruined, nor will we take or order action against him, except by the lawful judgment of his equals and according to the law of the land

40. To no one will we sell, to no one will we refuse or delay right or justice.

Magna Carta (1215)

and then there was:

When public men indulge themselves in abuse, when they deny others a fair trial, when they resort to innuendo and insinuation, to libel, scandal, and suspicion, then our democratic society is outraged, and democracy is baffled. It has no apparatus to deal with the boor, the liar, the lout, and the antidemocrat in general.

J. William Fulbright (February 2, 1954), Referring to Senator Joe McCarthy.

Today in Thailand?

Mr. Prime Minister, send the list back to NACC, and instruct them to submit cases to the prosecuting authorities in accordance with the law. The decision, whether or not to prosecute, is not yours to make.

[emilymat]

He's received the list but hasn't read it yet. Why, is he scared who it might mention?

[Thailand]

Written,assessed, deleted. Seems to be most of my posts have to go that way now!

[Bpuumike]

 

And how did a General become a millionaire on government salary?

I think his family was rich long before or do you think Somchai from the rice field can get General without coming from a rich and connected family?

Somchai from the rice field can barely, if at all, read or write - they like it that way.

[djjamie]

The negative narrative here shows the Junta are touching a nerve amongst the defenders of corruption. This is certainly a move the corrupt would love to cover up.

Lets hope (for the majorities sake) that this deeply ingrained cancer is seriously investigated and appropriate punishments are followed through with.

How refreshing that the Junta are taking this issue seriously. So serious in fact they had even arrested one of their own army generals for extortion.

PTP nearly made corruption fashionable. It is good to see old fashions die out and the "summer collection" sweep across the nation.

Of course we will hear, But the Junta this and the Junta that.

Bottom line. They are fighting corruption proactively unlike any previous government and that fight cannot be attributed to the weather!

[FangFerang]

Article 44 is only for the "wrong people". "the prime minister explained that the law only empower military personnel to serve as civilian law enforcement officers to help their civilian counterparts in order to speed up the cases"

In my crystal ball I see 96 red shirts being prosecuted quickly, and 4 sacrificial lambs from the yellow side who will, of course, be allowed appeals ad infinitum....

Problem solved, and happiness restored.

[FangFerang]

The negative narrative here shows the Junta are touching a nerve amongst the defenders of corruption. This is certainly a move the corrupt would love to cover up.

Lets hope (for the majorities sake) that this deeply ingrained cancer is seriously investigated and appropriate punishments are followed through with.

How refreshing that the Junta are taking this issue seriously. So serious in fact they had even arrested one of their own army generals for extortion.

PTP nearly made corruption fashionable. It is good to see old fashions die out and the "summer collection" sweep across the nation.

Of course we will hear, But the Junta this and the Junta that.

Bottom line. They are fighting corruption proactively unlike any previous government and that fight cannot be attributed to the weather!

I do not think you even read the news, nor understand this is the 18th coup that stepped in to "fight corruption." History is not your strong suit, obviously.

[soalbundy]

so much negativity, surely the "list"is a step in the right direction. And, can we expect all those complainers to now say no matter what the PM does we are against it.

unfortunately he hasn't done anything yet but i am sure he will read the list and say ''tut tut'' Shouldn't a corrupt official also be accused of lese majesty, he is after all acting in the name of the king.

[h90]

There was:

38. In future no official shall put anyone to trial merely on his own testimony, without reliable witnesses produced for this purpose.

39. No freeman shall be arrested or imprisoned or deprived of his freehold or outlawed or banished or in any way ruined, nor will we take or order action against him, except by the lawful judgment of his equals and according to the law of the land

40. To no one will we sell, to no one will we refuse or delay right or justice.

Magna Carta (1215)

and then there was:

When public men indulge themselves in abuse, when they deny others a fair trial, when they resort to innuendo and insinuation, to libel, scandal, and suspicion, then our democratic society is outraged, and democracy is baffled. It has no apparatus to deal with the boor, the liar, the lout, and the antidemocrat in general.

J. William Fulbright (February 2, 1954), Referring to Senator Joe McCarthy.

Today in Thailand?

Mr. Prime Minister, send the list back to NACC, and instruct them to submit cases to the prosecuting authorities in accordance with the law. The decision, whether or not to prosecute, is not yours to make.

And that was? Not in Thailand....

[h90]

The negative narrative here shows the Junta are touching a nerve amongst the defenders of corruption. This is certainly a move the corrupt would love to cover up.

Lets hope (for the majorities sake) that this deeply ingrained cancer is seriously investigated and appropriate punishments are followed through with.

How refreshing that the Junta are taking this issue seriously. So serious in fact they had even arrested one of their own army generals for extortion.

PTP nearly made corruption fashionable. It is good to see old fashions die out and the "summer collection" sweep across the nation.

Of course we will hear, But the Junta this and the Junta that.

Bottom line. They are fighting corruption proactively unlike any previous government and that fight cannot be attributed to the weather!

I do not think you even read the news, nor understand this is the 18th coup that stepped in to "fight corruption." History is not your strong suit, obviously.

yes and every time the corruption came back...

[soalbundy]

The negative narrative here shows the Junta are touching a nerve amongst the defenders of corruption. This is certainly a move the corrupt would love to cover up.

Lets hope (for the majorities sake) that this deeply ingrained cancer is seriously investigated and appropriate punishments are followed through with.

How refreshing that the Junta are taking this issue seriously. So serious in fact they had even arrested one of their own army generals for extortion.

PTP nearly made corruption fashionable. It is good to see old fashions die out and the "summer collection" sweep across the nation.

Of course we will hear, But the Junta this and the Junta that.

Bottom line. They are fighting corruption proactively unlike any previous government and that fight cannot be attributed to the weather!

I do not think you even read the news, nor understand this is the 18th coup that stepped in to "fight corruption." History is not your strong suit, obviously.

yes and every time the corruption came back...

No, it never went away, it's a bit like aids,you can put a lid on it for a while but it is always there in the background.

[issanaus]

There was:

38. In future no official shall put anyone to trial merely on his own testimony, without reliable witnesses produced for this purpose.

39. No freeman shall be arrested or imprisoned or deprived of his freehold or outlawed or banished or in any way ruined, nor will we take or order action against him, except by the lawful judgment of his equals and according to the law of the land

40. To no one will we sell, to no one will we refuse or delay right or justice.

Magna Carta (1215)

and then there was:

When public men indulge themselves in abuse, when they deny others a fair trial, when they resort to innuendo and insinuation, to libel, scandal, and suspicion, then our democratic society is outraged, and democracy is baffled. It has no apparatus to deal with the boor, the liar, the lout, and the antidemocrat in general.

J. William Fulbright (February 2, 1954), Referring to Senator Joe McCarthy.

Today in Thailand?

Mr. Prime Minister, send the list back to NACC, and instruct them to submit cases to the prosecuting authorities in accordance with the law. The decision, whether or not to prosecute, is not yours to make.

And that was? Not in Thailand....

What brings a smile to my face when people quote the Magna Carta is the total ignorance of what a freeman was.

The Magna Carta only sought to protect the rights of the landed from the king; while maintaining the rights of the land owners over the serfs who were the majority of the population.

Ultra right wing or what!

[jayboy]

And how did a General become a millionaire on government salary?

I think his family was rich long before or do you think Somchai from the rice field can get General without coming from a rich and connected family?

Wrong.Many generals in the Thai army come from ordinary middle class backgrounds.It remains inexplicable (actually not so inexplicable) that so many have become vastly rich on the back of very modest backgrounds.I know personally two retired generals who live modestly, that is as one would expect a middle level civil servant to live - comfortable but not lavish.

What many fail to grasp is that the Thai army is primarily geared to making money and exerting political power.Normal army activities ( eg defending the nation) tend to come low on the agenda notwithstanding the ludicrous patriotic shtick - unless one counts murdering Thai citizens as a normal Army activity.When facing a genuine military (eg the skirmish with Laos ) they tend to come off second best ie whupped.

It is significant in the current so called reform process one of the most corrupt and bloated institutions (the Thai army) remains immune from serious reform

[SOTIRIOS]

..there is an even llonger list of 'the population at large'....

...I know a certain "Ethics Professor' no less......where can I submit her name...

[scorecard]

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And so the nights of the long knifes begin...the arrest and executions of opponents......witch hunts ...lists...fear.
Insidious elitist purging ....they say one hundred but ten thousand most likely will be arrested....
Then YS receive ten years jail or worse.

My advice is monitor here the situation and be open to an exit.

This is the real deal.

War could be looming

You really should read about what history refers to as the "night of the long knives". Nothing like it is happening here.

Everyone knows the Thai government and civil service, including the justice and law enforcement process, are riddled with corruption. This is the first time in 25 years I can remember very much actually appearing to happen about it. Let's see how it ends up before condemning it.

The difference is the previous government, despite their nice photo shoots saying stop corruption and denying repeatedly that there was any corruption in their regime, actually did nothing to stop it. Primarily because they indulged in it and secondly they turned blind eyes for favors received. That was always at the essence of power and control in Thakin owned governments.

Your hyperbole is ridiculous. The poor and easily led won't be so easily conned to fight for Shin wealth and power anymore - they no it makes little difference to them.

In fact the last mob reduced the powers and the resources of the anti-corruption agency.

[fobuff]

I wonder if he was on the list and all the other multi millionaires generals in the junta, NLA and NCPA

[surangw]

This story is a beat up.

It wasn't a list it was a government department phone book

or one of their personal contacts books

[spidermike007]

With China pursuing their corrupt officials with such fervor recently, and imposing very harsh penalties (the death penalty and life in prison, in some cases) it must be putting some pressure on Thailand to at least appear concerned about this epidemic. Wonder how much longer they can let this issue fester, without attempting to bring it under control? With a few recent arrests at least something is being done. But, certainly not enough.

[elgordo38]

the list of uncorrupt might end up being a shorter list.

I think we discussed this before and agreed some zero's were missing.