webfact Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 SAMUI ATTACKCar bomb 'the work of people who lost power'THE NATIONBANGKOK: -- THE car bomb in Koh Samui was masterminded by people who have lost power and want to destroy the Songkran atmosphere, along with the country's image and economy, Defence Ministry spokesman Maj General Kongsheep Tantrawanit said yesterday.Asked to respond to the comment by former People's Democratic Reform Committee chief Suthep Thaugsuban that a person who lives abroad funded the bomb, Kongsheep said he believed that - as he did not think Thais would hurt one another because of different ideologies. "The bomb is about losing interests.''National police chief Pol General Somyos Pumpanmuang said police analysed the Samui car bomb and believed the motive of the perpetrators was to instigate turmoil. Masterminds hired assailants to carry out the attack. The Samui blast and motivation was similar to the blast in Ramkhamhaeng in Bangkok in 2013.Six people suspected of being involved in the Samui car bomb are being held at Vibhavadi Rangsit camp, pending interrogation by military officials from Surat Thani.But police said they had cleared a man in blue shirt - seen on surveillance cameras and suspected of having driven the pickup laden with explosives last Friday morning. The man was identified as Weera Pancharoen, 39, a resident of Samui. He had no link to the bomb, they said.To restore confidence in business and tourism on Samui, police strictly checked visitors on all ferry piers to Samui and scanned every person and car entering and exiting the island.Samui Provincial Police commander Pol Maj General Apichart Bunsriroj said sniffer dogs and Explosive Ordnance Disposal officials were on standby to carry out checks at all piers to Samui.Sources said police had made "80 per cent progress" before they issued warrants for people linked to the bomb. Police are also continuing to look into the fire that broke out at Surat Thani Cooperative about the same time when the Samui bombing took place on Friday night. The investigation had been suspended after it rained heavily and because of a staff shortage due to the Songkran break.Police said they have not ruled out arson but gave weight to the possibility of it being a short circuit, as the building was over 20 years old.Meanwhile, Noppadon led five police and EOD officials, plus sniffer dogs from Chumphon to search for bombs at Surat Thani train station - to boost confidence among visitors and local revelers. No suspicious items were found.The same team checked for bombs in department stores in Surat Thani, such as Central Plaza.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Car-bomb-the-work-of-people-who-lost-power-30258018.html-- The Nation 2015-04-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted April 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2015 He did not think Thais would hurt one another because of different ideologies ! Where has he been for the past few years ? This man is a Major General and holds the post of Deputy Defence Minister, does a lot for confidence in those supposedly running the country. Is a political motive now the final word as yesterday his boss, the Defence Minister, was hedging his bets and giving equal weight to the political aspect and a local conflict as suggested by the BIB. It's bad enough that senior officials open their mouths without thinking or evidence to back their comments but when the top people are talking at cross purposes there really is little hope. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BSJ Posted April 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2015 "Car bomb 'the work of people who lost power'...Kongsheep said he believed that - as he did not think Thais would hurt one another because of different ideologies." and instantly I start thinking of "The Monkees" song from the 60's - Daydream Believer! Come live in LOS for a trip down memory lane. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tx22cb Posted April 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2015 "the comment by former People's Democratic Reform Committee chief Suthep Thaugsuban that a person who lives abroad funded the bomb ..." Our friend Monk Suthep solved the case very expeditiously, perhaps he had a vision when meditating 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuckamuck Posted April 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2015 Obviously whoever did it will be whoever they want to have done it. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Round up the usual suspects. Who do we know that has a predilection for bombs and explosive ordnance? Oh, yeah........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simon43 Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 but gave weight to the possibility of it being a short circuit, as the building was over 20 years old. Clearly, he is well aware of the standard of Thai electrical workmanship 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 A convenient and self serving statement by the junta. To have the defence ministry spokeman quote Suthep just reinforced the speculation that junta and PDRC are working hand in glove. It has nothing to do with reconcilation, reform or corruption. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisY1 Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 Again....a major incident, embarrassingly managed by the security forces...both the cops and military.......they're just so clueless..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 >> The investigation had been suspended after it rained heavily and because of a staff shortage due to the Songkran break.<< Quote Welcome to Disneyland!! Investigation suspended because of rain!! And for Thailands finest it is more important to party, than to solve crimes. Anyone surprised?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 >>THE car bomb in Koh Samui was masterminded by people who have lost power and want to destroy the Songkran atmosphere, along with the country's image and economy, Defence Ministry spokesman Maj General Kongsheep Tantrawanit said yesterday.<<Quote Destroy the country's image?? The junta is doing an excellent job of that themselves, no need for hired hands................. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 He did not think Thais would hurt one another because of different ideologies ! Where has he been for the past few years ? This man is a Major General and holds the post of Deputy Defence Minister, does a lot for confidence in those supposedly running the country. Is a political motive now the final word as yesterday his boss, the Defence Minister, was hedging his bets and giving equal weight to the political aspect and a local conflict as suggested by the BIB. It's bad enough that senior officials open their mouths without thinking or evidence to back their comments but when the top people are talking at cross purposes there really is little hope. Don't confuse them with logic; they've already made up their minds... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 >> The investigation had been suspended after it rained heavily and because of a staff shortage due to the Songkran break.<< Quote Welcome to Disneyland!! Investigation suspended because of rain!! And for Thailands finest it is more important to party, than to solve crimes. Anyone surprised?? Probably rain has the same effect on the job as getting a haircut on wednesday does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DM07 Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 Why do I even bother to read this bullenscheisse? Thais would never hurt each other...?? Yep...the damn Burmese blocking the airports or the evil Cambodians at Ratchaphrasong... These guys are so clueless and so annoyingly stupid! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 Have a look at who is commenting on this case in the OP: Maj General "something" Suthep, one of the most corrupt politicians for the last 4 decades, now a fake monk Somyot, a cop as dirty as they come, now Chief of Police No wonder, the posters here are just a little sceptical.............. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gabruce Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 A convenient and self serving statement by the junta. To have the defence ministry spokeman quote Suthep just reinforced the speculation that junta and PDRC are working hand in glove. It has nothing to do with reconcilation, reform or corruption. Actually the article is the media quoting Suthep and asking the general whether he agrees with the assessment or not. Very different from your statement. I will grant you the possibility that the media is mis-reporting the situation or even that the translation from thai to english was incorrect. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aripengu Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 As long as those who have power and money in Thailand don't realize that laws are meant to be followed also by them, there will be coups, bombs, mobs etc. making it impossible to govern the country. Mainly this is a war between clans and elites where the working majority, those who actually produce something are being held hostage. Pride, stupidity and feudalism are hindering this beatiful dynamic country's development. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotEd Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Expect more. It is not just that they lost power but that they lost it to an illegal military takeover that won't even listen to their grievances. They are setting up rigged elections to assure that the Thai elite retain their privileges. It won't be too long (I suspect within 5 years) before their is a counter revolution and the beat goes on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 "...The car bomb in Koh Samui was masterminded by people who have lost power and want to destroy the Songkran atmosphere, along with the country's image and economy, Defence Ministry spokesman Maj General Kongsheep Tantrawanit said yesterday..." The accusations are getting more and more blatant with zero evidence. "...analysed the Samui car bomb and believed the motive of the perpetrators was to instigate turmoil..." Isn't the aim of all bombers to scare, destroy and kill. You can't set a bomb off without expecting someone may get killed. I don't know who the children are here...the police giving these statements or the reporters reporting this drivel. "...Six people suspected of being involved in the Samui car bomb are being held at Vibhavadi Rangsit camp, pending interrogation by military officials from Surat Thani..." Pending VIGOROUS interrogation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 >>To restore confidence in business and tourism on Samui, police strictly checked visitors on all ferry piers to Samui and scanned every person and car entering and exiting the island.<<Quote According to a long Thai tradition the gate is closed after the horse has bolted....................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) Clearly a topic to bring out the minority on TVF, JOC 4 posts, and counting. instead of 1 --Pilot ed, newbie straight at the PMs throat. How do we know who interpreted the headline ?? this work doe's look like a bad case of sour grapes---BUT The spokesperson is, if the translation is correct a bit hasty. If I was investigating I would naturally assume it MAY WELL be anti army government control, it has to be high on the list. Has anyone of the minority TVF posters mentioned who they think is behind the bombings ?? if not why ?? instead of bashing the Authorities. Had this happened to the PTP government it would be the Yellows who did it ?? So we say a definite disruptive act to unstable the present situation. anti army---southern escalation of violence--outside element interference--Big business rivalry-----choose. Edited April 15, 2015 by ginjag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Another perfect investigation by the RTP!! Can you prove, that those arrested are not guilty?? If you can, provide a link. You are nothing but conspiracy theorists ............ (posted on behalf of a poster, who sadly didn't have the time to join us today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshissan Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Round up the usual suspects. Who do we know that has a predilection for bombs and explosive ordnance? Oh, yeah........ Please tell us as you seem to know all the facts! I remember BOTH sides being armed last year, and in previous years! Your posts are predicable and boring,get a life outside of your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Clearly a topic to bring out the minority on TVF, JOC 4 posts, and counting. instead of 1 --Pilot ed, newbie straight at the PMs throat. How do we know who interpreted the headline ?? this work doe's look like a bad case of sour grapes---BUT The spokesperson is, if the translation is correct a bit hasty. If I was investigating I would naturally assume it MAY WELL be anti army government control, it has to be high on the list. Has anyone of the minority TVF posters mentioned who they think is behind the bombings ?? if not why ?? instead of bashing the Authorities. Had this happened to the PTP government it would be the Yellows who did it ?? So we say a definite disruptive act to unstable the present situation. anti army---southern escalation of violence--outside element interference--Big business rivalry-----choose. Okay...I'll bite! A timed car-bomb, with a stolen car from Yala, goes of at night in an empty park-house. a) insurgents from the deep South: not likely, because after hundreds they already killed there, I find it unlikely, that they time a bomb to go off at night, in an empty parking lot, with little to no chance of hurting anybody. Terrorists aim to strike fear, kill and maim. So: no insurgents! Red shirts: with a car from Yala (not really the stronghold of the reds), on Samui (not really the stronghold of the reds), announced by a guy on a recently re-opened FB-page named M Redshirt? Not even the reds are that kind of stupid...so: no red shirts. C) laid of workers: yep...go, get a car, bomb an empty parking-space...as so many laid off workers do today! Not a chance in hell! So I conclude: mafia-related; someone sent a warning, THIS TIME without anyone killed! OR...false-flag operation, to blame political rivals! You pick! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshissan Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Clearly a topic to bring out the minority on TVF, JOC 4 posts, and counting. instead of 1 --Pilot ed, newbie straight at the PMs throat. How do we know who interpreted the headline ?? this work doe's look like a bad case of sour grapes---BUT The spokesperson is, if the translation is correct a bit hasty. If I was investigating I would naturally assume it MAY WELL be anti army government control, it has to be high on the list. Has anyone of the minority TVF posters mentioned who they think is behind the bombings ?? if not why ?? instead of bashing the Authorities. Had this happened to the PTP government it would be the Yellows who did it ?? So we say a definite disruptive act to unstable the present situation. anti army---southern escalation of violence--outside element interference--Big business rivalry-----choose. Another dig at a newbie! What is wrong with you? Won't he join in your playground gang? How many different theories have we had in the last couple of days? Why don't you ask the general for a work permit and head the investigation? As you seem to know everything and already have the answers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Clearly a topic to bring out the minority on TVF, JOC 4 posts, and counting. instead of 1 --Pilot ed, newbie straight at the PMs throat. How do we know who interpreted the headline ?? this work doe's look like a bad case of sour grapes---BUT The spokesperson is, if the translation is correct a bit hasty. If I was investigating I would naturally assume it MAY WELL be anti army government control, it has to be high on the list. Has anyone of the minority TVF posters mentioned who they think is behind the bombings ?? if not why ?? instead of bashing the Authorities. Had this happened to the PTP government it would be the Yellows who did it ?? So we say a definite disruptive act to unstable the present situation. anti army---southern escalation of violence--outside element interference--Big business rivalry-----choose. If I was investigating I would naturally assume it MAY WELL be anti army government control, it has to be high on the list. Not only are you good looking, you are intelligent too!! Has anyone of the minority TVF posters mentioned who they think is behind the bombings ?? Personally I believe The Supreme Leader of Iran is behind it......... To send a message to the Sunni running the kebab-stall in the mall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) Another perfect investigation by the RTP!! Can you prove, that those arrested are not guilty?? If you can, provide a link. You are nothing but conspiracy theorists ............ (posted on behalf of a poster, who sadly didn't have the time to join us today) The last government and this have persons that come out immediately and spew anything out. It takes time ex., The London bombings---Marathon USA---Bali-----let the people who do the investigations get on with their work for gods sake. Here there are maybe NOT a handful of suspected Nutter organizations to pick from. It is just having suspects and getting info from them, individually Thais are at their weakest. Someone will GRASS for the smallest amount of money. Edited April 15, 2015 by ginjag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Well that certainly narrows it down to almost the whole Thai population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckosDiving Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Clearly a topic to bring out the minority on TVF, JOC 4 posts, and counting. instead of 1 --Pilot ed, newbie straight at the PMs throat. How do we know who interpreted the headline ?? this work doe's look like a bad case of sour grapes---BUT The spokesperson is, if the translation is correct a bit hasty. If I was investigating I would naturally assume it MAY WELL be anti army government control, it has to be high on the list. Has anyone of the minority TVF posters mentioned who they think is behind the bombings ?? if not why ?? instead of bashing the Authorities. Had this happened to the PTP government it would be the Yellows who did it ?? So we say a definite disruptive act to unstable the present situation. anti army---southern escalation of violence--outside element interference--Big business rivalry-----choose. Okay...I'll bite!A timed car-bomb, with a stolen car from Yala, goes of at night in an empty park-house. a) insurgents from the deep South: not likely, because after hundreds they already killed there, I find it unlikely, that they time a bomb to go off at night, in an empty parking lot, with little to no chance of hurting anybody. Terrorists aim to strike fear, kill and maim. So: no insurgents! Red shirts: with a car from Yala (not really the stronghold of the reds), on Samui (not really the stronghold of the reds), announced by a guy on a recently re-opened FB-page named M Redshirt? Not even the reds are that kind of stupid...so: no red shirts. C) laid of workers: yep...go, get a car, bomb an empty parking-space...as so many laid off workers do today! Not a chance in hell! So I conclude: mafia-related; someone sent a warning, THIS TIME without anyone killed! OR...false-flag operation, to blame political rivals! You pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Clearly a topic to bring out the minority on TVF, JOC 4 posts, and counting. instead of 1 --Pilot ed, newbie straight at the PMs throat. How do we know who interpreted the headline ?? this work doe's look like a bad case of sour grapes---BUT The spokesperson is, if the translation is correct a bit hasty. If I was investigating I would naturally assume it MAY WELL be anti army government control, it has to be high on the list. Has anyone of the minority TVF posters mentioned who they think is behind the bombings ?? if not why ?? instead of bashing the Authorities. Had this happened to the PTP government it would be the Yellows who did it ?? So we say a definite disruptive act to unstable the present situation. anti army---southern escalation of violence--outside element interference--Big business rivalry-----choose. If I was investigating I would naturally assume it MAY WELL be anti army government control, it has to be high on the list. Not only are you good looking, you are intelligent too!! Has anyone of the minority TVF posters mentioned who they think is behind the bombings ?? Personally I believe The Supreme Leader of Iran is behind it......... To send a message to the Sunni running the kebab-stall in the mall. Have a good look at your and your associates posts on this topic, Most regular posters will steer clear of a topic like this not wanting to get involved just a waste of time arguing the toss with anti PM posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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