webfact Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Junta 'Willing' to Work With New U.S. AmbassadorBy Khaosod EnglishGlyn Davies (photo from website of the US Department of State)BANGKOK - The Thai government is looking forward to cooperation with the newly-nominated American ambassador, a spokesperson says.United States President Barack Obama nominated Glyn Davies, the former US special representative for North Korea, as the new ambassador to Thailand over the weekend. His formal appointment is pending an approval by the US Congress.Davies' nomination follows a six-month vacancy in the post of US ambassador to the Kingdom. The former ambassador, Kristie Kenney, left the position in November, and the US diplomatic mission in Bangkok has been led by charge d'affaires W. Patrick Murphy.Speaking at a press conference yesterday, Maj.Gen. Kongcheep Tantrawanich, a spokesperson of the Ministry of Defense, said he has been informed about Davies' nomination and told reporters that, if Davies is formally appointed, Thailand is willing to work with the new ambassador "for the sake of peace in the country and stability in the region.""I insist that our government has a willingness to cooperate with every nation. We do not have bias against anyone," said Maj.Gen. Kongcheep, "Thailand is currently going through an important transition. The Ministry of Defense is working under the policy of the government and upholding interest of the nation as our basis."Thailand has long been a major ally of the United States in the Asia-Pacific region, though the US government has scaled back diplomatic ties with Thailand following the military coup d'etat that toppled an elected government on 22 May 2014.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1429080377 -- Khaosod English 2015-04-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snig27 Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 They really don't get it do they? Kinda like a "dim" switch is turned as you rise through the ranks in the Thai army. Probably why they're so well regarded as a military by their allies - given their historic series of victories over the decades ... against the Thai people. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 Thai govt 'willing' to work with new US ambassador What a relief for the US!! The world power Thailand is offering its cooperation............. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Local Drunk Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) What has been failed to be mentioned here so far is that there is a breach of culture that the Americans and their western counterparts can't seem to fathom. Should I list a name of countries where they and their allies have got it wrong? It has been since the aftermath of WW2 ; the rebuilding of Western Germany and Japan which have both come to be and have long been major economic players on the stage of the world, that American foreign policy seems to have worked; however, that policy was all based upon the evil communist threat from the Russians and the Chinese: not on human rights or democracy. The American government simply doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone's other than its own. I am an American by the way and I have had nothing but disdain for their foreign policiy for about as long as I can remember. Edited April 15, 2015 by Local Drunk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SpokaneAl Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 What has been failed to be mentioned here so far is that there is a breach of culture that the Americans and their western counterparts can't seem to fathom. Should I list a name of countries where they and their allies have got it wrong? It has been since the aftermath of WW2 ; the rebuilding of Western Germany and Japan which have both come to be and have long been major economic players on the stage of the world, that American foreign policy seems to have worked; however, that policy was all based upon the evil communist threat from the Russians and the Chinese: not on human rights or democracy. The American government simply doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone's other than its own. I am an American by the way and I have had nothing but disdain for their foreign policiy for about as long as I can remember. I am not sure where you gained your knowledge concerning the rebuilding of Europe after WWII, but I would suggest that a revisit of the Marshall Plan might be in order. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 "The Ministry of Defense is working under the policy of the government and upholding interest of the nation as our basis." General Prawit Wongsuwan is the Chairman of the Board of Consultamts for the NCPO, Deputy Prime Minister for Security Affairs, and Defense Minister who was appointed by General Prayut, Chief of the NCPO and PM. Prawit working under the policy of the Junta-led government is a foregone conclusion. Whether he upholds the interest of the nation or just the Junta is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muhendis Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 Looks like a fun story to me. First there is a coup in Thailand, then America removes their ambassador. The Chinese and the Russians get closer so America re-installs its ambassador. Diplomatic musical chairs...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisrazz Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 The most interesting part is the message: 'Glyn Davies, the former US special representative for North Korea'. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Thai govt 'willing' to work with new US ambassador What a relief for the US!! The world power Thailand is offering its cooperation............. Thailand is willing to work with the new ambassador "for the sake of peace in the country and stability in the region. Now, isn't that extraordinary generous- especially in view of all available alternatives? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) The most interesting part is the message: 'Glyn Davies, the former US special representative for North Korea'. you beat me to it edit typo, you would think with a five word reply I would not be necessary, but if you did you would be wrong Edited April 15, 2015 by sirineou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbarch Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I wish Glyn Davies the very best of luck, Thailand has many problems and it would benefit from help from America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oneday Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 "...Thailand is willing to work with the new ambassador "for the sake of peace in the country and stability in the region..." What a disingenuous statement. Thailand isn't interested in anything the US has to say unless they say, "we accept your military take-over and continued governance of Thailand and we believe everything you say about article 44 and that the election will be soon". The US isn't going to say any of that and I'd be surprised if there was any publicly announced meetings between the ambassador and Prayuth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Here is the million dollar question. Did they nominate Davies because of his knowledge of the diplomatic wheel used to talk with N. Korea? If so, they are comparing Thailand's gov to N. Koreas gov! Which everyone in Thailand knows is not accurate as a comparison to assign this guy Davies! Right???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhendis Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Here is the million dollar question. Did they nominate Davies because of his knowledge of the diplomatic wheel used to talk with N. Korea? If so, they are comparing Thailand's gov to N. Koreas gov! Which everyone in Thailand knows is not accurate as a comparison to assign this guy Davies! Right???? Nah! Davies has been moved to an inactive post 'cause nobody wanted to talk to him in N. Korea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonbridgebrit Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 What has been failed to be mentioned here so far is that there is a breach of culture that the Americans and their western counterparts can't seem to fathom. Should I list a name of countries where they and their allies have got it wrong? It has been since the aftermath of WW2 ; the rebuilding of Western Germany and Japan which have both come to be and have long been major economic players on the stage of the world, that American foreign policy seems to have worked; however, that policy was all based upon the evil communist threat from the Russians and the Chinese: not on human rights or democracy. The American government simply doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone's other than its own. I am an American by the way and I have had nothing but disdain for their foreign policiy for about as long as I can remember. What ?? America rebuilt Japan, and it was based on the evil communist threat from the Chinese ? How about this. Japan had already invaded and occupied large areas of China before the attack on Pearl Harbour. America entered into World War Two because of the Japanese attack. What happened after Japan surrendered in 1945 ? The cynics will claim that America converted Japan into a giant sweat-shop to produce cheap goods to be transported to America, this happened during the 1950s and 60s. Yes, America had a massive rivalry with Russia after World War Two, but this was not based on anti-communism. It was based on America and Russia being rivals on the world stage, competing against each other to dominate the other countries around the world. But yes, there is now a third world power, and that country is China. The US is not against China because China is communist. It's against China because China is competing with the US to influence and dominate the countries in Asia. And indeed, Thailand is a nation where China and the US are competing to dominate it. But I agree, America (and China) don't really care about the well-being of any countries. They're only interested in benefiting themselves. But when you want to benefit yourself, when you want to dominate and influence any small nation, well, you've got to hand out benefits to that small nation. Let's hope Thailand recieves lots of presents and benefits ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zydeco Posted April 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2015 With all that is going on in the world, when Obama gets his briefing on Thailand, I doubt if it's more than an occasional sentence or two. The US has moved on from Thailand. Vietnam, the Philippines, and Japan will always be reliably anti-Chinese. They're preferred allies. Thailand is an unreliable, political swamp. US policymakers probably just want to distance themselves as much as possible from the place. And putting this diplomatic time server in as ambassador just might be a clear signal of it. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Here is the million dollar question. Did they nominate Davies because of his knowledge of the diplomatic wheel used to talk with N. Korea? If so, they are comparing Thailand's gov to N. Koreas gov! Which everyone in Thailand knows is not accurate as a comparison to assign this guy Davies! Right???? Or maybe he was in line for a move? Might be subject to the minute machinations you'd like it to be. Comparing the current Thai government to the family dynasty despotic rule in North Korea is stupid. Hmmm, family despotic dynasties............. rings a bell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 The use of the word "willing" does indeed come off as COLD in English. Intentional or yet another translation glitch? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Really a very badly written headline. As opposed to unwilling, I suppose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksamuiguy Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Let's give him a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJoad Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 As long as he's not into taking "selfies" all the time like the last one, this one should be an improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 With all that is going on in the world, when Obama gets his briefing on Thailand, I doubt if it's more than an occasional sentence or two. The US has moved on from Thailand. Vietnam, the Philippines, and Japan will always be reliably anti-Chinese. They're preferred allies. Thailand is an unreliable, political swamp. US policymakers probably just want to distance themselves as much as possible from the place. And putting this diplomatic time server in as ambassador just might be a clear signal of it. Agreed, Thailand was so four decades ago. Cambodia and Vietnam are far more interesting places for investment and there none of this "we are special" nonsense or we are "reforming". Thailand is not a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 With all that is going on in the world, when Obama gets his briefing on Thailand, I doubt if it's more than an occasional sentence or two. The US has moved on from Thailand. Vietnam, the Philippines, and Japan will always be reliably anti-Chinese. They're preferred allies. Thailand is an unreliable, political swamp. US policymakers probably just want to distance themselves as much as possible from the place. And putting this diplomatic time server in as ambassador just might be a clear signal of it. Exactly right. I have said that time and time again, that the US simply no longer has any interest in Thailand. It has proven itself time and time again to be the ultimate fair weather friend. The fact that the US left the ambassador position open for 6 months was simply a fart in the face of Thailand . If the the ambassador to Germany stepped down, do you think the position would be open for 6 months ?? For this area , the shift will be to Vietnam. They hate the Chinese, and are looking for help to counter China's attempt to take over the South China Sea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Driving a wedge between long time friends and sucking up to a country that you know full well is viewed with suspicion of it's intentions military wise , by your long term partner and trading partner is not what I would call willing to work, indeed a it could be construed as a snub to your old friend, just because you the country of Thailand wants to turn a blind eye to people trafficking , animal trade , international labour rules, kiddie sex trade, Ivory trade and a to a list as long as your arm , all you are doing is digging yourself into one big hole in the direction you are taking, at least choosing out of the two countries concerned , one has some moral values, then again birds of feather flock together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpokaneAl Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I chuckle at how thin skinned Thais are to any perceived slight, especially, it seems, by the U.S. Do they really expect the U.S. to say well done and great job concerning the coup and its continuing implications? I remember reading an article a number of years ago concerning someone who was very concerned what everyone was thinking of him/her. The truth is that he/she would probably be surprised at how little we actually are thinking of them, or in this case, a country. Perhaps if Thais would spend more time on improving and fixing, rather than attacking those who disagree with them, this country could progress and evolve into a more meaningful world role. I don't see that happening in my lifetime. And in regards to the ambassadorship - it is merely a required position in a minor country - I see no secret messages via the person nominated for the position. If and when the current nominee gets approved by the senate, life will go on. Edited April 16, 2015 by SpokaneAl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 He is just an ambassdor Nothing more nothing less. it's not like he has any real power over US foreign affairs. His job is to manage embassy personnel and maybe pass on messages to heads of state is all. Oh if he see's a need in country he is working in with permission from host country he can submit it . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 What has been failed to be mentioned here so far is that there is a breach of culture that the Americans and their western counterparts can't seem to fathom. Should I list a name of countries where they and their allies have got it wrong? It has been since the aftermath of WW2 ; the rebuilding of Western Germany and Japan which have both come to be and have long been major economic players on the stage of the world, that American foreign policy seems to have worked; however, that policy was all based upon the evil communist threat from the Russians and the Chinese: not on human rights or democracy. The American government simply doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone's other than its own. I am an American by the way and I have had nothing but disdain for their foreign policiy for about as long as I can remember. I agree on US policy since WW2 - it's a mess and is in a very large part responsible for the dreadful place Thailand finds itself in mid 2015 (and the thoroughly broken Thai military who have been supported over and over in their often vicious rampages against the Thai people). However, the elephant in the room this time, which you seem to miss, is that the disdain for the Thai junta beyond Thai borders this time seems to be almost universal - only Russia, China and North Korea are smiling. And that's a major whoops ... Add to that pretty much offshore every media outlet - left, right and centrist - that has written about ThaI politics in the past year has agreed with the distain. Hell, they poke fun at the intellectual capacity of dear leader almost every week - and increasingly much of the Thai media seems to be doing the same now, although it seems to slip past, somewhat over his head. Still, maybe the rest of the world - excepting China, Russia and North Korea - have got it wrong, and you and the man The Guardian calls a "twerp" have got it right. Anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "...Thailand is willing to work with the new ambassador "for the sake of peace in the country and stability in the region..." What a disingenuous statement. Thailand isn't interested in anything the US has to say unless they say, "we accept your military take-over and continued governance of Thailand and we believe everything you say about article 44 and that the election will be soon". The US isn't going to say any of that and I'd be surprised if there was any publicly announced meetings between the ambassador and Prayuth. Every country in the world has the right to accept or reject ambassadors from other countries, the USA and Thailand included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Here is the million dollar question. Did they nominate Davies because of his knowledge of the diplomatic wheel used to talk with N. Korea? If so, they are comparing Thailand's gov to N. Koreas gov! Which everyone in Thailand knows is not accurate as a comparison to assign this guy Davies! Right???? I would think his posting to Thailand has as much to do with North Korea as it has to do with his position before that as Permanent Representative to the International Atomic Energy Agency. In other words, nothing. He is a seasoned diplomat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 This word "willing" seems to have been cherry picked and dropped into the headline to get our attention, and perpetuate the characterization of an aloof Junta, seemingly giving its approval of this nomination from their self-appointed seat of ill-gotten power. When I read the source article, however, the only full, direct quote from the Minster using the word willing is: "I insist that our government is willing to cooperate with every nation. We do not have bias against anyone," said Maj.Gen. Kongcheep Tantrawanich. So, this word "willing" was extracted and appears to have been used (twice) in a dishonest way, in order to create or perpetuate another meaning. Why would Khaosod English do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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