April 17, 201511 yr Prayut asks for understanding from mediaBANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Friday began reporting to the public his government's first six months in office at 9.00 am today.Before going into details of not only his government’s work but also of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), Gen Prayut admitted he prayed in the morning with the Lord Buddha to make him calm and be more patient.He admitted that he was a sort of person who got angry easily and spoke straightforwardly but assured that he would try to calm himself from now.He began his address by urging the media to understand what his government was doing and try to present facts to the public and refrain from what he described as creating “discourse” to discredit his government.He identified phrases of “doing for the poor”, ” first car for the people”, “unfair justice system” “retention of power” were always cited and repeated by critics which he said these should be stopped as it merely wrecked morale of those who have devoted themselves to work.He reiterated that his government and the NCPO were determined to work for the interest of the people, not any certain group of people.He said all his cabinet ministers were forced to work for the country by him and therefore critics should understand and not just criticise blindly.He asked for cooperation from the media to stop running comments from people who always complaining of injustices or being treated unjustly despite that they were the group of people who always rejected to enter legal process, and always denied doing wrong even though evidence was apparent.He also asked that the media stop running “hate speech” saying it was useless and only widen the conflict in the country.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/prayut-asks-for-understanding-from-media -- Thai PBS 2015-04-17
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post It's all lovely words and no lovely deeds. Let's wait and see how long it will be before he shoots himself in the foot again with his brand new Russian gun...
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Did he preface his speech by thanking costas for his unfailing, unwavering support ?
April 17, 201511 yr It's all lovely words and no lovely deeds. Let's wait and see how long it will be before he shoots himself in the foot again with his brand new Russian gun...
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Did he preface his speech by thanking costas for his unfailing, unwavering support ? Maybe Costas IS the General, you never know...???
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post I'll give him his due: He'll never lose face. Cos he's always got the same bloody one! Same frown; same half-efforted kind of a smiley, which makes him look kinda like a member of the Tufty club lost in Tinsel Town. So he prays in the morning WITH the Lord Buddha. He's sure extended his visitor list, way beyond that of China and Russia and North Korea. Even the Buddha visits his home now.
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post All Hail Costas ! This thread has the makings of a major Greek Tragedy.
April 17, 201511 yr I am struggling to find the thread detailing his claims of achievements for the government - am i missing something........
April 17, 201511 yr I'll give him his due: He'll never lose face. Cos he's always got the same bloody one! Same frown; same half-efforted kind of a smiley, which makes him look kinda like a member of the Tufty club lost in Tinsel Town. So he prays in the morning WITH the Lord Buddha. He's sure extended his visitor list, way beyond that of China and Russia and North Korea. Even the Buddha visits his home now. Maybe he's just being humble and self-effacing and didn't want to say that actually the Lord Buddha comes to pray with him.
April 17, 201511 yr Did he preface his speech by thanking costas for his unfailing, unwavering support ? I also support the general for what he is trying to achieve for the country which includes those of us expats that live here. Given the choice between the last few prime minsters including Thaksin, Abhisit and Yingluck he is doing a better job than any one of them.
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Did he preface his speech by thanking costas for his unfailing, unwavering support ? I also support the general for what he is trying to achieve for the country which includes those of us expats that live here.Given the choice between the last few prime minsters including Thaksin, Abhisit and Yingluck he is doing a better job than any one of them. Visa up for renewal, is it?
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post All the cabinet ministers were FORCED to work for the country by him. Very military, " I want volunteers to run the country, you, you and you. " We still can't use the D word. Edited April 17, 201511 yr by NongKhaiKid
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Did he preface his speech by thanking costas for his unfailing, unwavering support ? I also support the general for what he is trying to achieve for the country which includes those of us expats that live here.Given the choice between the last few prime minsters including Thaksin, Abhisit and Yingluck he is doing a better job than any one of them. And Mussolini famously made the trains run on time.This fellow has removed vendors from a few Southern beaches.Thaksin delivered universal health care from which even this anti poor government cannot retreat.As to which is the greatest achievement it is for you to decide.I could not possibly comment.
April 17, 201511 yr I cannot help comparing this line from the op - "He asked for cooperation from the media to stop running comments from people who always complaining of injustices or being treated unjustly despite that they were the group of people who always rejected to enter legal process, and always denied doing wrong even though evidence was apparent." To this, from the Committee to Protect Journalists website, June 15, 2006 - "The Committee to Protect Journalists condemns Thailand’s caretaker prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s continuing use of criminal defamation charges to silence critical media outlets. The most recent charges, filed on Wednesday, targeted three Thai-language dailies, Matichon, Khao Sod and Daily News." Seems like the current PM is not the only one who has had "issues" with the media.
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Is he "asking" or is he "warning"? Oh well. It's not like we're getting investigative journalism from the Thai press. Their typical approach is to simply attend official press briefings (the PM, Police, Army, various Ministers) and string together quotes into a contradictory mess. Press freedom anyone?
April 17, 201511 yr Did he preface his speech by thanking costas for his unfailing, unwavering support ? I also support the general for what he is trying to achieve for the country which includes those of us expats that live here. Given the choice between the last few prime minsters including Thaksin, Abhisit and Yingluck he is doing a better job than any one of them. I support my young dog too, in trying to learn to fetch a ball. It's a complicated learning process for an animal that doesn't fully comprehend new surroundings, once removed from the busom of comfort. However, the dog is trying, even though the ball often gets dropped on the way back because of distractions and insecurities. I hope the dog learns the ropes sooner or later, or the task at hand shall be totally corrupted by interferences of lack of knowledge and a true desire to fetch the ball.
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post I cannot help comparing this line from the op - "He asked for cooperation from the media to stop running comments from people who always complaining of injustices or being treated unjustly despite that they were the group of people who always rejected to enter legal process, and always denied doing wrong even though evidence was apparent." To this, from the Committee to Protect Journalists website, June 15, 2006 - "The Committee to Protect Journalists condemns Thailand’s caretaker prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s continuing use of criminal defamation charges to silence critical media outlets. The most recent charges, filed on Wednesday, targeted three Thai-language dailies, Matichon, Khao Sod and Daily News." Seems like the current PM is not the only one who has had "issues" with the media. Like it or not there is no real simplicity in all this.Elsewhere in this thread I pointed out it was Thaksin that made universal healthcare irreversible in Thailand.(Don't bother telling me he didn't originate the idea - I know that). He was also a rotten example for democracy - authoritarian, meglomaniac and opponent of the free press.Nevertheless he opened Thailand up to democracy and undermined the vested interests of the old elites.(Not from noble motives - I know that) Prayuth is even worse than Thaksin in terms of intimidating the press.But at the same time he has brought a kind of peace to the country - which most appreciate even if with some reservations about methods. And I would not be honest if I suggested he does not have broad middle class support.Yet it is an illegitimate, ludicrous and incompetent setup. Meanwhile the essential difficulties facing the country have been kicked into touch.Nothing has been solved. Unless there is understanding of nuance and complexity there is no understanding.There are no storybook villains or heroes.
April 17, 201511 yr I cannot help comparing this line from the op - "He asked for cooperation from the media to stop running comments from people who always complaining of injustices or being treated unjustly despite that they were the group of people who always rejected to enter legal process, and always denied doing wrong even though evidence was apparent." To this, from the Committee to Protect Journalists website, June 15, 2006 - "The Committee to Protect Journalists condemns Thailand’s caretaker prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s continuing use of criminal defamation charges to silence critical media outlets. The most recent charges, filed on Wednesday, targeted three Thai-language dailies, Matichon, Khao Sod and Daily News." Seems like the current PM is not the only one who has had "issues" with the media. Like it or not there is no real simplicity in all this.Elsewhere in this thread I pointed out it was Thaksin that made universal healthcare irreversible in Thailand.(Don't bother telling me he didn't originate the idea - I know that). He was also a rotten example for democracy - authoritarian, meglomaniac and opponent of the free press.Nevertheless he opened Thailand up to democracy and undermined the vested interests of the old elites.(Not from noble motives - I know that) Prayuth is even worse than Thaksin in terms of intimidating the press.But at the same time he has brought a kind of peace to the country - which most appreciate even if with some reservations about methods. And I would not be honest if I suggested he does not have broad middle class support.Yet it is an illegitimate, ludicrous and incompetent setup. Meanwhile the essential difficulties facing the country have been kicked into touch.Nothing has been solved. Unless there is understanding of nuance and complexity there is no understanding.There are no storybook villains or heroes. Good post jayboy, and surprisingly I agree with you for a change. All we need is an elected government with the political wisdom of Thaksin, the peacekeeping capabilities of Prayuth, and a kind, open and honest attitude towards the population and Thailand will be better off for it. (I believe we need a few more things to happen but I won't overstep the mark right now and list them for fear of starting an argument)
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Did he preface his speech by thanking costas for his unfailing, unwavering support ? I also support the general for what he is trying to achieve for the country which includes those of us expats that live here. Given the choice between the last few prime minsters including Thaksin, Abhisit and Yingluck he is doing a better job than any one of them. You're not trying to jump on costas' hard earned bandwagon are you ?
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Prayut asks for understanding from media As a journalist myself, I think the problem lies exactly in the fact that the media understands his intentions very well…
April 17, 201511 yr Prayut asks for understanding from media As a journalist myself, I think the problem lies exactly in the fact that the media understands his intentions very well… Nice One !
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Did he preface his speech by thanking costas for his unfailing, unwavering support ? Take a bow Costas.
April 17, 201511 yr Oh so it was a misunderstanding about the part of you returning the country to Democracy your actually selling it to Russia and China and taking new job with your buddy Kim?
April 17, 201511 yr I cannot help comparing this line from the op - "He asked for cooperation from the media to stop running comments from people who always complaining of injustices or being treated unjustly despite that they were the group of people who always rejected to enter legal process, and always denied doing wrong even though evidence was apparent." To this, from the Committee to Protect Journalists website, June 15, 2006 - "The Committee to Protect Journalists condemns Thailand’s caretaker prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s continuing use of criminal defamation charges to silence critical media outlets. The most recent charges, filed on Wednesday, targeted three Thai-language dailies, Matichon, Khao Sod and Daily News." Seems like the current PM is not the only one who has had "issues" with the media. Like it or not there is no real simplicity in all this.Elsewhere in this thread I pointed out it was Thaksin that made universal healthcare irreversible in Thailand.(Don't bother telling me he didn't originate the idea - I know that). He was also a rotten example for democracy - authoritarian, meglomaniac and opponent of the free press.Nevertheless he opened Thailand up to democracy and undermined the vested interests of the old elites.(Not from noble motives - I know that) Prayuth is even worse than Thaksin in terms of intimidating the press.But at the same time he has brought a kind of peace to the country - which most appreciate even if with some reservations about methods. And I would not be honest if I suggested he does not have broad middle class support.Yet it is an illegitimate, ludicrous and incompetent setup. Meanwhile the essential difficulties facing the country have been kicked into touch.Nothing has been solved. Unless there is understanding of nuance and complexity there is no understanding.There are no storybook villains or heroes. Good post jayboy, and surprisingly I agree with you for a change. All we need is an elected government with the political wisdom of Thaksin, the peacekeeping capabilities of Prayuth, and a kind, open and honest attitude towards the population and Thailand will be better off for it. (I believe we need a few more things to happen but I won't overstep the mark right now and list them for fear of starting an argument) How about that! For once I find myself in agreement with you Mike! Well said.
April 17, 201511 yr Popular Post Almost a year and still no understanding? I call that a failure of General Happiness.
April 17, 201511 yr I cannot help comparing this line from the op - "He asked for cooperation from the media to stop running comments from people who always complaining of injustices or being treated unjustly despite that they were the group of people who always rejected to enter legal process, and always denied doing wrong even though evidence was apparent." To this, from the Committee to Protect Journalists website, June 15, 2006 - "The Committee to Protect Journalists condemns Thailand’s caretaker prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s continuing use of criminal defamation charges to silence critical media outlets. The most recent charges, filed on Wednesday, targeted three Thai-language dailies, Matichon, Khao Sod and Daily News." Seems like the current PM is not the only one who has had "issues" with the media. The difference from then and now is the degree of control over the media permitted as a result of the implementation of the all-embracing Article 44 and the fact that defamation charges initiated by the Shinawatra regime (for which I hold no brief) were contestable in a civil court.
April 17, 201511 yr It's all lovely words and no lovely deeds. Let's wait and see how long it will be before he shoots himself in the foot again with his brand new Russian gun... or maybe his new chinese gun ?
April 17, 201511 yr "Look guys, when I say all that stupid stuff, when I sound like a teenager, when I'm sounding wet behind the ears, just don't report it, OK?"
April 17, 201511 yr He admitted that he was a sort of person who got angry easily and spoke straightforwardly but assured that he would try to calm himself from now. So he actually admitted that he is not qualified for a job as leader of a country. Edited April 17, 201511 yr by Anthony5
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