webfact Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Army demolition team called-in as Pattaya Hotel Demolition saga continuesPATTAYA: -- Army demolition teams were called in to knock down ground-floor walls of a South Pattaya Hotel which is the subject of a demolition order due to a breach of planning regulations.The long-running issues at the Pattaya Boutique Hotel in Soi VC have left many local officials frustrated as the owners of the Hotel have continuously refused to accept demolition orders which were issued, as plans to initially construct a 7-floor Hotel were changed to become a 13-floor Hotel but crucially the new plans were not submitted for approval to the local city planning department, who deemed the construction illegal.The Provincial Governor has visited the site on numerous occasions, along with other high-ranking local government officials and on Monday a team of Army officials were called in to begin demolition of parts of the Hotel in a show of strength from the local authorities who have clearly had-enough and want the Hotel demolished in accordance with the order issued by the Pattaya Provincial Court.Full story: http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/185763/army-demolition-team-called-in-as-pattaya-hotel-demolition-saga-continues/-- Pattaya One 2015-04-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 either knock it down or leave it - stupidity and bribes at work here me thinks seriously ? what on earth is going on with this someone outside of Pattaya needs to get involved here as the locals are getting confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Thainess, Farang not understand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It is sort of like their understanding of water flow Why in the world would you demolish the ground floor, it the problem is the 8th through 13th floors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It is sort of like their understanding of water flow Why in the world would you demolish the ground floor, it the problem is the 8th through 13th floors Because then the 1st floor becomes the ground floor and uou just keep going until desired height is reached!Farang not know ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcresswell Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They're obviously demolishing the hotel from the ground floor up. What could possibly go wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernerkl Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 well it is easier to start at the bottom, because then the top comes down one by one anyway. isn´t it same in politics: whipe out the base the leadership might fall automatically????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It's simple, really. The ground floor wasn't included in the original plans, and therefore is an illegal modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverhigh Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Thainess, Farang not understand! I know you are being cynical but I really don't understand. I'm just guessing that if you punch enough holes in the ground floor making it inhabitable and blocking access to other floors - job done! Owners would have a hard time renting it out. I could be 1000 percent wrong on this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 BE QUICK! Come to Thailand. Learn Thai. Get Thai citizenship and YOU TOO can be a rule ignoring, self centered, childish, inconsiderate anarchist. APPLY NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I thought they went in and smashed this place up about a year ago! Just get on with it, they sure can procrastinate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Just reading "Pattaya", "planning regulations" and "city planning department" in one article makes me laugh for the rest of the day...ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken George Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I would suspect if all planning applications were checked on already finished buildings then probably many would not meet the regs. I suspect though this has been the culture for a long time. Put an application in get approval then build what you want. Things are changing even if slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Someone didn't get his share of the bribe moneys it seems.... Hey isn't this what happened to Thermae in BKK? they closed the place down by demolishing the reception area and business continued as usual in the basement(-1 floor)? Although nowadays it is frequented by Pakistanis, Indians and "alabs", in it's heydays it was very nice in the early morning hours. Edited April 21, 2015 by AlQaholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It's a ground floor-up demolition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscano Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I guess that is the way things are done in Pattaya , get permission for an acceptible 7 storey hotel and then change it to 13 storeys by sleight of hand . Demolition of the ground floor by the army cannot be disputed and makes the hotel inoperable . The owners have to spend money to demolish the rest . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batboy Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Be interesting also when they get to the high rise condo at the marina end of Walking street. Another one that went higher than approval and building suspended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy666 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Be Interesting what they re going to do at Bali Hai Condo near the pier, they must be Sweatin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy666 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Be interesting also when they get to the high rise condo at the marina end of Walking street. Another one that went higher than approval and building suspended . Sorry I didn't see ya, Batboy, Great Minds think alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batboy Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Be interesting also when they get to the high rise condo at the marina end of Walking street. Another one that went higher than approval and building suspended . Sorry I didn't see ya, Batboy, Great Minds think alike. No Problem's. Just buying a condo in Jomtien myself that is just being built so hope its all ok also. Only problem is how many Russians bought condo's to and have had to let go because of their money issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Only in Thailand and other 3rd world countries can you refuse a court order without repercussions. It is very simple, refuse and you go to prison until you decide to comply. Prison is a great deterrent, especially for the rich, who can actually afford to comply with the court order and thereby choose to avoid prison. Edited April 21, 2015 by monkeycountry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeThai Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They're obviously demolishing the hotel from the ground floor up. What could possibly go wrong! Very wrong indeed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakman Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I just love a little C4 in the morning. It's a blast. Implosions R Us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeThai Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Tea money not being paid comes to mind, or perhaps being paid by the competition who wants this new hotel off their Soi.... Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I guess that is the way things are done in Pattaya , get permission for an acceptible 7 storey hotel and then change it to 13 storeys by sleight of hand . Demolition of the ground floor by the army cannot be disputed and makes the hotel inoperable . The owners have to spend money to demolish the rest . Or, since the army will not be demolishing the supporting columns, simply build the ground floor walls again when the army leaves and open the hotel. I am guessing that will be both cheaper and more profitable for the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveinAsia Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I thought they went in and smashed this place up about a year ago! Just get on with it, they sure can procrastinate here. A probable scenario; The government official who owns the place got the go ahead to construct under YL. He is hoping he can stall the demolition just in time for a favorable change of regime, maybe, perhaps, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy666 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Be interesting also when they get to the high rise condo at the marina end of Walking street. Another one that went higher than approval and building suspended . Sorry I didn't see ya, Batboy, Great Minds think alike. No Problem's. Just buying a condo in Jomtien myself that is just being built so hope its all ok also. Only problem is how many Russians bought condo's to and have had to let go because of their money issues. Best of Luck, Prices moving yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I thought they went in and smashed this place up about a year ago! Just get on with it, they sure can procrastinate here. A probable scenario; The government official who owns the place got the go ahead to construct under YL. He is hoping he can stall the demolition just in time for a favorable change of regime, maybe, perhaps, who knows. Doubtful. National politics does not really come into play in Pattaya whereas local government has been under the control of the same family for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I guess that is the way things are done in Pattaya , get permission for an acceptible 7 storey hotel and then change it to 13 storeys by sleight of hand . Demolition of the ground floor by the army cannot be disputed and makes the hotel inoperable . The owners have to spend money to demolish the rest . And here you are, Toscano, trying to find a rational explanation. Tsk tsk... farangness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKT Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Be interesting also when they get to the high rise condo at the marina end of Walking street. Another one that went higher than approval and building suspended yes, way past high time they demolished this monstrosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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