webfact Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Prawit: Unelected Prime Minister 'Not a Big Deal'By Khaosod EnglishNational Reform Council (NRC) debate over the new charter at Parliament House on 21 April 2015.BANGKOK — A leader of Thailand's military junta has downplayed concerns over a clause in the new constitution that will allow an unelected Prime Minister to take office.Contrary to previous 'permanent' constitutions in recent decades, the new charter, which is being debated by the junta's reform council this week, will not explicitly require Prime Ministers to be elected Members of Parliament. The current draft only stipulates that a Prime Minister be appointed by a majority of MPs.According to Gen. Prawit Wongsuwan, deputy chairman of the ruling National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), the clause is meant to "open a channel" for MPs to select an "appropriate or neutral" individual to serve as Prime Minister in the event of a political deadlock.He told reporters he believes MPs will not resort to appointing an unelected Prime Minister unless it is absolutely necessary to do so."I think it is not a big deal at all," said Gen. Prawit, who also serves as Minister of Defense and Deputy Prime Minister. "Normally, MPs will just select MPs from political parties [to be Prime Minister]."The clause is seen as a victory for the conservative movement that campaigned against the elected government toppled in the May 2014 coup d'etat. Ushering in an unelected "outsider" Prime Minister was one of the protesters' chief demands.In May 2014, the movement’s leaders asked the Senate to unilaterally appoint an “outsider” PM after Yingluck Shinawatra was ousted in a court ruling. The Senate refused, prompting the anti-government protesters to prepare for a "Final Battle" to topple the government. The military stepped in and staged a coup several days later.Source: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1429619520&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2015-04-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Bob Posted April 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted April 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2015 Not often I say this, but completely agree with Mango Bob on this one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. please explain why it is a big deal considering it would only take effect under extreme situations such as was seen last year when Thailand was at the brink of civil war 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Commerce Posted April 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. please explain why it is a big deal considering it would only take effect under extreme situations such as was seen last year when Thailand was at the brink of civil war If it's no big deal then why include it in the draft at all then? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisF Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. please explain why it is a big deal considering it would only take effect under extreme situations such as was seen last year when Thailand was at the brink of civil war Still on the Brink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Commerce Posted April 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. please explain why it is a big deal considering it would only take effect under extreme situations such as was seen last year when Thailand was at the brink of civil war Still on the Brink And will remain on the brink so long as Prayuth says it's on the brink - necessitating the Junta remaining in power for as long as needs be!! All for the people, of course, and not for personal net gain. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 "A ruler with total power over a country, typically one who has obtained power by force." Google this definition and see what word comes up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Said the fox to the chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Not for him, it isn't! Edited April 22, 2015 by DM07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 The clause is seen as a victory for the conservative movement that campaigned against the elected government toppled in the May 2014 coup d'etat. Conservative? A more appropriate adjective would be "reactionary". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 To the Thai military that makes coups almost an annual event, having an unelected PM is no big deal. The new constitution would just save the military all the effort and expense (born by the Thai taxpayers) to overthrow an elected government when instead it can just appoint the new PM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I wonder if Khun Prawit knows anyone who would be willing to take this post of un-elected PM, maybe someone with the initials PW per chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casindonet Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. It's not a big deal for this junta for sure.....I'm sure they do know that they are all unelected by the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Better now then to continue with vote buying and super theft of just about everything.............from the "elected" Govt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Well of course it's not a big deal. It would only be a big deal if Thailand was indeed a democracy. But since Thailand is not a democracy, it is no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffinator Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 He told reporters he believes MPs will not resort to appointing an unelected Prime Minister unless it is absolutely necessary to do so. The ONLY reason such would be necessary is when those at the top don't like the people's choice of an elected PM. So this basically paves the way for the army and the elites to elect anyone they see fit and at any time. Democracy Thainess style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suffinator Posted April 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. please explain why it is a big deal considering it would only take effect under extreme situations such as was seen last year when Thailand was at the brink of civil war It is a big deal because it destroys the very foundation of democracy. One of the main reasons why there have been so many coups over the years is down to the fact that the army and the elites don't like the people's choice of an elected PM. The terms 'extreme situations' that you use would depend on your view of such .... watch and see if those who seek control will use such stating that they fear for the country; as they always do. Was Thailand really on the brink of civil war and what stopped that from happening ... oh yes another military coup ... those with more guns always wins. Like it or not YS and even Thaskin were elected but they were removed which then invoked the reds to come out. Take away a persons democratic rights and you leave them with no voice. Of course that doesn't matter if you are one of those who wants to rule with impunity and without having to answer to the people. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 "A ruler with total power over a country, typically one who has obtained power by force." Google this definition and see what word comes up. We don't need to google the word Dictator mate - believe me, we understand such. You should read another thread issued by the Nation today, which clearly refers to the current military dictatorship - posted by one of its own reporters. However, put simply, we are not allowed to refer to such, despite the Nation's own doing so. We are mere mortals. ............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. please explain why it is a big deal considering it would only take effect under extreme situations such as was seen last year when Thailand was at the brink of civil war It is a big deal because it destroys the very foundation of democracy. One of the main reasons why there have been so many coups over the years is down to the fact that the army and the elites don't like the people's choice of an elected PM. The terms 'extreme situations' that you use would depend on your view of such .... watch and see if those who seek control will use such stating that they fear for the country; as they always do. Was Thailand really on the brink of civil war and what stopped that from happening ... oh yes another military coup ... those with more guns always wins. Like it or not YS and even Thaskin were elected but they were removed which then invoked the reds to come out. Take away a persons democratic rights and you leave them with no voice. Of course that doesn't matter if you are one of those who wants to rule with impunity and without having to answer to the people. Indeed! In effect, what they are doing is taking away the rights of the people to vote - yet nobody has said such in as many plain words. That is 100% against a democracy, and is indeed a path to tyranny and, ultimately, a dictatorship, or in this case a demagogue. Praise Aristotle..... 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laubau Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Better now then to continue with vote buying and super theft of just about everything.............from the "elected" Govt. ...only in the canyons of your mind!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I hope mr. general Prawit, your ignorant "no big deal" will bite you in your..........soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat Brad Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Who would or will Thais vote for in an election any way. There has been only one political voice thus far so who is the opposition party for Thais to vote for. The election when it does take place will be a done deal & you know what most Thais will be happy with that. Thailand has been under military rule more than civilian rule so this situation is normal & funnily enough life goes on for them.....IMO mae pen rai can be a good place to be sometimes. I also think that westerners think too much about things that they in reality are powerless to change any way. If governments want to do something it usually happens no matter what the people want......I'm not saying that people should just bend over & take it but people power rarely works even in western countries unless through violence that is........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. When all is said and done the people that should run for office will be so scared of repercussions that they will not run for politics leaving the field wide open to the people that are connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Who would or will Thais vote for in an election any way. There has been only one political voice thus far so who is the opposition party for Thais to vote for. The election when it does take place will be a done deal & you know what most Thais will be happy with that. Thailand has been under military rule more than civilian rule so this situation is normal & funnily enough life goes on for them.....IMO mae pen rai can be a good place to be sometimes. I also think that westerners think too much about things that they in reality are powerless to change any way. If governments want to do something it usually happens no matter what the people want......I'm not saying that people should just bend over & take it but people power rarely works even in western countries unless through violence that is........ Are you serious, or jesting? Mai pen rai? You fell for it already? I guess your glass is half-full and half-empty all the time but, as you say it; 'mai pen rai'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourmanflint Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. If it's such a big deal then why don't we have the same luxury in the UK? If a party has a change of leadership we don't get to vote on that it's all done internally. So whats the difference here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. If it's such a big deal then why don't we have the same luxury in the UK? If a party has a change of leadership we don't get to vote on that it's all done internally. So whats the difference here? The difference is the person chosen in the UK will be an elected politician. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. If it's such a big deal then why don't we have the same luxury in the UK? If a party has a change of leadership we don't get to vote on that it's all done internally. So whats the difference here? How can you possibly compare UK diplomatics and UK governmental posture against what has happened in Thailand, and then surmount to ask what is the difference? Please explain, as you confused me in your disdain. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaacorp Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Excuse me but it is a big deal. That's why it is just a big topic right now and you are saying this. please explain why it is a big deal considering it would only take effect under extreme situations such as was seen last year when Thailand was at the brink of civil war because the new chart also say that only a third of the government would be elected, the other 2/3 would be appointed...so basically, democacy would be a far cry... Letting the army, the Privy Council or whoever in charge, choose whoever they what, whatever the people want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 SYCOPHANT And delusional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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