How old is Too old to Father Children in Thailand?

[Wadan]

I am amazed at all this self righteous, egos who profess to be so moralistic and is prepared to dictate their idealism to the world. who are you or anyone to determine the right of fatherhood. What do you know about what is best for the child?

Many of you are thinking about bullying as an excuse for older parenting. This is so pathetic. Bullying can result from many instances. To criticize older fathers on the grounds that the kid will face bullying is so empty in thinking.

Bullying is a problem wherever and for whatever reason it surfaces. The problem is not the older father but the bullyier that is the problem. It is blaming the messenger and ignoring the message. You should do well to divert your energies and criticism to bullying as a problem and not as something that will result parents fail to train their kids to be respectful.

All you who seem to think that the child is not happy with an older father, well just take a poll. Ask any kid from older fathers if they would rather be alive through an older father or never have been born.

If you can find one kid who is prepared to have never been born because his father is older, then maybe , just maybe you have a point. I don't think you will.

[ChiangraiTony]

I'm 62, have a 3 year old. Very happy with lots of money. Been married 5 years and my wife is now 26. Much support in our family. My child will be taken care of very well. You don't need to be concerned.

You can never know about the feeling, reasons, or love of life until you can walk in the shoes that carry this joy. Hopefully you can learn something by reading these comments and better understand how important it is to open your mind a little bit more.

Oh, my mind is completely open. I have had 2 children of my own and so I know well the joys and despair of parenthood.

62 with a 3 year old! All I can say is 'you poor man!'

Thank you for being honest enough to expose your intellect. When I suggested opening the mind a little bit more I was referring to not being so judgmental. Everyone has their own story to tell. When you're more respectful you can feel good about your deeds. At least that's what I like to think.

errr, old bean...I should not be judgmental, yet you are being judgmental on what I should or shouldn't be and giving me advice on not being judgmental?

You see the irony?

Let me ask you this Sir. Is it fair on your children that you will be 70 when your child is 11? Age 80 when 21?

Simply asking.

To answer your question: First I should better understand your definition of your term 'Fair'.

I don't know... Maybe when your think in terms like being 'fair' you may think that it's like playing some game. (Perhaps the game of life). So to me... it has nothing to do with 'fair'.

When I hear the word 'fair' I think of being in accordance with some set of established rules. When you use the term 'fair' are you meaning 'Fair' like playing 'Fair and Square' or is it about not being fair because the older parent didn't think through all the details of their child's instinctive needs when they pass on at some unknown point in time.

Or possibly that it's not being fair to a child because when they grow older their biological father will no longer be present or in good enough shape to play sports and other activities that all children have an inner need and desire for. Or simply just to be in the presents of child and parent togetherness.

It's true. I admit that with a hundred factors that were considered when deciding on having a child at an older age I didn't give full 100% consideration to some of the aspects that may be considerered by some to be a selfish or inconsiderate act to the child by dieing before they get to some age in their life.

In my humble opinion it has to do with your personal belief system. You believe something different than me.

[benalibina]

OP, he has written before....we all have a story to tell.

Why does it come across that you want to write everybody his/her story according to your way of thinking ?

On the outset it seems that you are concerned with the best interest for the child. However your ongoing judgements about, and to, fathers who have done it differently really lose momentum. Its arrogant and pushy. I truly hope that, if you have kids yourself, your attitude is different. For their sake.

The idea of posting a topic is to engage in debate. Yes, i have my views, and i have expressed them.

Some others, I do not agree with their view. Normal i think. The best way to get your opinions across, is to,well...is to actually express those ideas. Get it?

We have raised two children. The frollettes are young adults now.

I would never have children again at my age.

Obviously others are ...not you.....everybody has a story to tell......

On topic ......my parents were 48 and 40 when I was born....I considered them old...oldfashioned....as a young kid I saw the difference in age between mine and my (school)friend's parents. I felt somewhat ashamed about them. The older I got that feeling became less.

Reading this topic really got me thinking again about my childhood and what followed further in my life. The basis came from the familyhome and eventhough I am for a big part responsible of my life, I have concluded that my parents were lacking in giving proper mental/emotional guidance. This is not age related, eventhough I considered them old, they just were not being able to give the complete package. On a way I have been (ab??)used by both of them for their own agenda. I write this with no bitterness, just stating IMHO a fact.

So how I see it, any parent, at any age, who is with the best intentions willing and able to emotionally, lovingly ,educationally and financially, how much is not that important, guide their innocent child through life is fit to become a parent.

I have become a father, twice, with, on hindsight, the mothers sole intention to use the children as a means to an aim. Not the childrens best interest, sadly enough.

[thehelmsman]

OP, he has written before....we all have a story to tell.

Why does it come across that you want to write everybody his/her story according to your way of thinking ?

On the outset it seems that you are concerned with the best interest for the child. However your ongoing judgements about, and to, fathers who have done it differently really lose momentum. Its arrogant and pushy. I truly hope that, if you have kids yourself, your attitude is different. For their sake.

The idea of posting a topic is to engage in debate. Yes, i have my views, and i have expressed them.

Some others, I do not agree with their view. Normal i think. The best way to get your opinions across, is to,well...is to actually express those ideas. Get it?

We have raised two children. The frollettes are young adults now.

I would never have children again at my age.

We have some good friends husband and father is 62 - wife and mother is 32 - their little boy is almost 2yrs. They have a business, make decent money, everyone talks openly about the age difference. It's not like if they don't talk about it - it doesn't exist. And, lastly they're both Thai.

If everyone speaks openly about the situation, then nothing a stranger will say has an effect. The kid will learn at home that family is important and what some little twit at school has to say doesn't matter because the little twit learns from his twitty parents.

Wolly- You go a bit further than simply having an opinion to preaching - Go play with the grand kids and stop worrying what others do.

[Richard W]

I remember an interview with George Burns. The ancient cigar smoking comedian. He was asked how it was fathering a baby at the age of 95(?) with his 26 (?) y.o wife. He said something along the lines of "it being great but he has trouble picking the baby up"

Never mind picking it (the baby) up, how about a 95 year old smoker getting it up at all - in the Pre Erectile Dysfunction Medicine days ?

That should have been the 9'th Wonder of the frickin' World

I can't find any record of George Burns fathering any children.

[ttthailand]

Trying to make logic out of some of the statements made. Anyone over 50 should not have kids....

Does that mean a couple who's male is over 50 should not adopt even if the mother is 35 and both are in good health ?

Does that mean a guy who is 50 meets a girl who is 35 who just had a baby he should drop her, yes or no ?

Shouldn't we also be looking at other factors to restrict having children like IQ, wealth, looks ? I mean really, if two ugly people have a baby you know that poor child will go through life being tormented. If people are too fat you also know that the kids will be fat and everyone will be calling them names. Don't you think we should add fat and ugly people to the list ?

Who else can we judge ???

[kiwikeith]

I'm 60 and with a 3 year old son, no need to work ever again, I have plenty of money.

Happy to have one or two more.

How many men get divorced with kids under 18 and never see their children again?

What's the difference?

I am 62 have boy aged nearly 4 mother 40 great little boy and only child for mother who could never have children due to illness so specialists said, but somehow specialists got her through and wonderful boy.

He will be taken care off and amazing miracle is that mothers graves disease is better now as babies thyroid kicked in for her during pregnancy and now she is in remission.

[brewsterbudgen]

I am amazed at all this self righteous, egos who profess to be so moralistic and is prepared to dictate their idealism to the world. who are you or anyone to determine the right of fatherhood. What do you know about what is best for the child?

Many of you are thinking about bullying as an excuse for older parenting. This is so pathetic. Bullying can result from many instances. To criticize older fathers on the grounds that the kid will face bullying is so empty in thinking.

Bullying is a problem wherever and for whatever reason it surfaces. The problem is not the older father but the bullyier that is the problem. It is blaming the messenger and ignoring the message. You should do well to divert your energies and criticism to bullying as a problem and not as something that will result parents fail to train their kids to be respectful.

All you who seem to think that the child is not happy with an older father, well just take a poll. Ask any kid from older fathers if they would rather be alive through an older father or never have been born.

If you can find one kid who is prepared to have never been born because his father is older, then maybe , just maybe you have a point. I don't think you will.

Great post. Really no need for this thread to continue.

[BookMan]

I remember an interview with George Burns. The ancient cigar smoking comedian. He was asked how it was fathering a baby at the age of 95(?) with his 26 (?) y.o wife. He said something along the lines of "it being great but he has trouble picking the baby up"

Never mind picking it (the baby) up, how about a 95 year old smoker getting it up at all - in the Pre Erectile Dysfunction Medicine days ?

That should have been the 9'th Wonder of the frickin' World

I can't find any record of George Burns fathering any children.

Neither could his children

*wakka wakka wakka*

[manhood]

All these guys should not get married and sure not have a child!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats just possible in Thailand due to the "ladies" looking for a farang!!!!!! often pushed by their famalies and i feel shame for all the old guys who marry and set up a child in a situation they cant oversee.....

most of the farangs are not realy healthy or whealthy to raise up a child give them all the support they need!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thakkar]

When they're teenagers, they'll complain: "I wish I'd never been born!"

...regardless of their father's age.

T

[weegee]

Seems like the majority of these replies are all "me, me, me". I can... don't judge me...blah, blah, blah, but it's not about you, is it? What about addressing the OP's point about the children. Is it fair on them? As I've mentioned in a previous post, I've heard lots of accounts of bullying at school in such situations; the whole your mum is a BG who married an old foreigner stuff. It's not nice but children can be very mean. And this attitude is adopted from the kids' Thai parents, so for the poster who suggested this is a widely accepted practice in Thailand, I think you'll find that it is no more so than back home; in fact the whispers of prejudice can be far more ignorant here.

The reality is, most people slow down a lot in their 60s. My mum is 68, walks miles every day with her dog and is fit as a fiddle, but she has niggling injuries that are starting to require that she rests more, you know, age-related things like a bad shoulder when she carries heavy stuff, and a bad arm from an injury when she was younger. She can't hold my little one for too long, and come 6.30pm is ready to sit down and relax for the rest of the evening. My Dad of the same age loves kids, but he's the same and just wouldn't have the patience now to have young kids to keep up with.

Kids are amazing and bring so much joy to your life, but at 55/60+ there's no way I can see myself being able to do what I do now; the up-all-nights when they are sick, the potty training, the carrying, the constantly needing to be attentive everywhere you go in case they have an accident, the reading books, tutoring and doing homework, the keeping them entertained on long haul flights...the list goes on.

While it's true that a younger dad could just as easily pop his clogs at any time, the reality is that an old geezer, especially a drinker and or a smoker, is likely to have less energy, less strength and be more susceptible to illness. Statistically you are closer to death and in a more advanced state of decline.

Is this a good circumstance for a child? No, of course not. But I agree it might be a darn sight better than many of the dead beat fathers out there who neglect their kids.

To those mentioning the financial aspect of a retiree being able to provide better, forget money. Sure, it helps to have security, but families grow together; a young family works at it and builds a life of security as they age together. What kids want is love, and a dad who can run and play all day instead of always wanting to put his feet up and have a beer while telling his/her mother to do it instead. They want a dad who is going to be around as long as possible. Having a kid at 60 means you are likely to be gone, or at the very least hardly able to run a few yards by the time your child is 20 - and that's sad.

And what of the kids from previous marriages? They get less inheritance, see less of their father, and their children get less attention from their grandfather. And what of the Thai woman's kids from her previous relationship? Well, sadly I know a few of these situations where those kids are neglected in favour of the newer, more "narak" luuk krungs.

Kenny....you nailed it it one.....Thats what it is about, and the OP brought it to light.

[weegee]

what I cant understand is I have met several men here over 50, retired here for a good life and enjoy all that Thailand has to offer then their lady gets pregnant and 3/4 years later there all going back to his home land cos its too expensive here for them to educate there children.

WHAT A WAY TO F- - - UP THE REST OF YOUR LIFE

They come for freedom from the constraints of the west. They find themselves content , at peace, happy...for a few years at least.

Catman20....Yep thats about it in a nutshell

[weegee]

I agree with you. There is nothing that will compare or replace the loss of a father.

Okay. But by making a general statement about having children after a certain age is being a selfish act... It would have been nice to know that with you having such a loss at a young age that you would now have gained the wisdom to understand that it's not about quantity. It's about quality.

Consider yourself fortunate that you had a father in your life for 11 years. Neither you or I know how long we will walk the earth.

My real point is simply this: both you and I do not know the future and how long we have. We do not know all situations of other people's lives. If we want to delve into the lives of other people we should never be so quick to make blanket statements without knowing the facts of their lives. But even if you did have facts of other's lives, you'd be spending Your life's energy and the most valued of all, Your time on other people's personal affairs. To me, that sounds quite boring. Though many will try, no one can walk in your shoes nor mine. Peace to you!

When it comes to children Tony, billions of people are walking in your shoes or have walked in your shoes every day; in the past and into the future.

The fundamentals are very similar, you do realise that?

You mention quality it seems as a justification to yourself. You clearly made a choice at age 58 to bring another child into this world. Yes, that is your choice.

Is it fair on a child? We have heard from several people who have been in the situation, now adults, and they say no. Not a good idea. Not good for the child.

For yourself Tony, only time, and your child can answer the question for you. Not you.

OP, he has written before....we all have a story to tell.

Why does it come across that you want to write everybody his/her story according to your way of thinking ?

On the outset it seems that you are concerned with the best interest for the child. However your ongoing judgements about, and to, fathers who have done it differently really lose momentum. Its arrogant and pushy. I truly hope that, if you have kids yourself, your attitude is different. For their sake.

benalibaba....The OP is concerned with the children (rightly so)....not the fathers or mothers....

The OP has a good point. maybe he knows more than he is letting on?...whatever...There are many posters here with more than one Avatar or personal ID, who will tie into this to change everything to suit what they think....or want.

Well think about this...Is it fair to Taxpayers ...lets say in Australia or USA or UK....that these children are taken from Thailand to the home country...JUST TO GET more money on the social security system in THEIR POCKETS back home???....What a rort!!!

[benalibina]

I agree with you. There is nothing that will compare or replace the loss of a father.

Okay. But by making a general statement about having children after a certain age is being a selfish act... It would have been nice to know that with you having such a loss at a young age that you would now have gained the wisdom to understand that it's not about quantity. It's about quality.

Consider yourself fortunate that you had a father in your life for 11 years. Neither you or I know how long we will walk the earth.

My real point is simply this: both you and I do not know the future and how long we have. We do not know all situations of other people's lives. If we want to delve into the lives of other people we should never be so quick to make blanket statements without knowing the facts of their lives. But even if you did have facts of other's lives, you'd be spending Your life's energy and the most valued of all, Your time on other people's personal affairs. To me, that sounds quite boring. Though many will try, no one can walk in your shoes nor mine. Peace to you!

When it comes to children Tony, billions of people are walking in your shoes or have walked in your shoes every day; in the past and into the future.

The fundamentals are very similar, you do realise that?

You mention quality it seems as a justification to yourself. You clearly made a choice at age 58 to bring another child into this world. Yes, that is your choice.

Is it fair on a child? We have heard from several people who have been in the situation, now adults, and they say no. Not a good idea. Not good for the child.

For yourself Tony, only time, and your child can answer the question for you. Not you.

OP, he has written before....we all have a story to tell.

Why does it come across that you want to write everybody his/her story according to your way of thinking ?

On the outset it seems that you are concerned with the best interest for the child. However your ongoing judgements about, and to, fathers who have done it differently really lose momentum. Its arrogant and pushy. I truly hope that, if you have kids yourself, your attitude is different. For their sake.

benalibaba....The OP is concerned with the children (rightly so)....not the fathers or mothers....

The OP has a good point. maybe he knows more than he is letting on?...whatever...There are many posters here with more than one Avatar or personal ID, who will tie into this to change everything to suit what they think....or want.

Well think about this...Is it fair to Taxpayers ...lets say in Australia or USA or UK....that these children are taken from Thailand to the home country...JUST TO GET more money on the social security system in THEIR POCKETS back home???....What a rort!!!

Benalibina it is. Benalibiba is Morrocan related...I just googled.

I truly wonder why, as by your reply to my comment, you come up with different usernames, avatars etc...Implying something related to me ?

As the OP is indeed concerned about children from his perspective, your reply above seems that you are not. The taxpayers are your concern.

All in all....a very strange reply you have given.

[weegee]

This has to be the BEST Topic I have seen on this forum for a long long time....

NOTHING was directed at you personally...Benalibina. i enjoy some of your posts.

DONT get off topic....let everyone have their say.

Thats why it has so many pages of comments....

[Radar501]

"How many kids do you have?" is one of the first questions I get asked by Thais. When I say I don't have any, they look at me as if I have somehow been negligent in my duties.

The next question is usually, "But who will look after you when you get old?"

And here lies a huge difference between Thai and Western values. In Australia, our culture is to grow our assets in our younger years so we can live on a nest-egg when we are older. The welfare system will also prop us up in times of financial and health needs.

Thais, on the other hand, generally are incapable or unprepared to save money, and with no such state assistance, the elderly often rely on family for support. The need for a Thai man to start a family becomes urgent if he is approaching middle age.

I am 52 years old, and I gave up any plan of bringing a baby into this world when I was about 40. I would want to be a father to my child, not a grandfather.

[harryfrompattaya]

Most children born with a Farang Father is nothing but a tool used by the Mother to get money

I known that this doesn't apply too any one with children on this Forum

[brewsterbudgen]

"How many kids do you have?" is one of the first questions I get asked by Thais. When I say I don't have any, they look at me as if I have somehow been negligent in my duties.

The next question is usually, "But who will look after you when you get old?"

And here lies a huge difference between Thai and Western values. In Australia, our culture is to grow our assets in our younger years so we can live on a nest-egg when we are older. The welfare system will also prop us up in times of financial and health needs.

Thais, on the other hand, generally are incapable or unprepared to save money, and with no such state assistance, the elderly often rely on family for support. The need for a Thai man to start a family becomes urgent if he is approaching middle age.

I am 52 years old, and I gave up any plan of bringing a baby into this world when I was about 40. I would want to be a father to my child, not a grandfather.

I respect that and everyone should have their own thoughts on their capacity or inclination to be a parent. For me, however, it's completely different. Although at nearly 55 I'd pretty much given up on the thought of having children, I couldn't be more delighted in having a son last month. I'm tempted to post another photo...........but I won't as I don't want to become a middle-aged baby bore.....

Edited April 26, 2015 by brewsterbudgen

[MaeJoMTB]

I respect that and everyone should have their own thoughts on their capacity or inclination to be a parent. For me, however, it's completely different. Although at nearly 55 I'd pretty much given up on the thought of having children, I couldn't be more delighted in having a son last month. I'm tempted to post another photo...........but I won't as I don't want to become a middle-aged baby bore.....

Go on, do it, the kids' really cute, well worth another photo (or two).

[brewsterbudgen]

I respect that and everyone should have their own thoughts on their capacity or inclination to be a parent. For me, however, it's completely different. Although at nearly 55 I'd pretty much given up on the thought of having children, I couldn't be more delighted in having a son last month. I'm tempted to post another photo...........but I won't as I don't want to become a middle-aged baby bore.....

Go on, do it, the kids' really cute, well worth another photo (or two).

Ok then!!

[frollywolly]

I respect that and everyone should have their own thoughts on their capacity or inclination to be a parent. For me, however, it's completely different. Although at nearly 55 I'd pretty much given up on the thought of having children, I couldn't be more delighted in having a son last month. I'm tempted to post another photo...........but I won't as I don't want to become a middle-aged baby bore.....

Go on, do it, the kids' really cute, well worth another photo (or two).

This is not the topic for baby photos. There are other places for that

It reminds me of that nauseatingly sycophant member who would post photo after photo and mention his two young children in nearly every post he made. It was over the top.

I cannot remember seeing him for the several weeks I have been back on here. His name was something like 'Danny'.

What happened to him? Not important,just wondering.

Edited April 26, 2015 by frollywolly

[frollywolly]

I'm tempted to post another photo...........but I won't as I don't want to become a middle-aged baby bore.....

Yes, please don't.

You do have a beautiful baby. Like every other baby out there.

[Blackfox]

"How many kids do you have?" is one of the first questions I get asked by Thais. When I say I don't have any, they look at me as if I have somehow been negligent in my duties.

The next question is usually, "But who will look after you when you get old?"

And here lies a huge difference between Thai and Western values. In Australia, our culture is to grow our assets in our younger years so we can live on a nest-egg when we are older. The welfare system will also prop us up in times of financial and health needs.

Thais, on the other hand, generally are incapable or unprepared to save money, and with no such state assistance, the elderly often rely on family for support. The need for a Thai man to start a family becomes urgent if he is approaching middle age.

I am 52 years old, and I gave up any plan of bringing a baby into this world when I was about 40. I would want to be a father to my child, not a grandfather.

I respect that and everyone should have their own thoughts on their capacity or inclination to be a parent. For me, however, it's completely different. Although at nearly 55 I'd pretty much given up on the thought of having children, I couldn't be more delighted in having a son last month. I'm tempted to post another photo...........but I won't as I don't want to become a middle-aged baby bore.....

And so here's another one that couldn't be more delighted to have a kid.

The topic is not about you but the age of parents, particularly the western Father.

By my rational, you are too old to be the sharp, energetic Father so, if you don't mind me asking, "what sort of physical, mental and financial state are you in?"

Do you have the financial resources to send your kid to a western school equivalent?

Is your health favourable (your mothers and fathers health provide the best yardstick) enough to see your kid well into adulthood?

And last question; what's the go with the mother?

Reason I ask this question is that every doting father includes the mother as in "we are delighted in having our first son last month". That's every father I know, here and abroad.

[Liquorice]

I'd guess a lot of these older men having children with much younger wives are trying to relive their lost youth.

They must have failed in their younger lives to hold down a relationship with their wives and children.

An ego trip and a last ditch effort to make amends for past failings?

Other than thinking about yourselves, do you ever give any thought to the life of the child your bringing into this life.

Chances are, life without a Father to watch them grow into adults, get married, and have grandchildren with a Grandfather to look up to.

You think money will solve the kids problems...............your so narrow minded.

The life expectancy is around 80 for western men. At 70 most need some kind of care for themselves.

Having a child should mean giving a life of commitment and support to a child.

At 55 or above, do you really think you can give that commitment and support, or does it just make you feel more of a man to know the little head still functions.

[benalibina]

I'd guess a lot of these older men having children with much younger wives are trying to relive their lost youth.

They must have failed in their younger lives to hold down a relationship with their wives and children.

An ego trip and a last ditch effort to make amends for past failings?

Other than thinking about yourselves, do you ever give any thought to the life of the child your bringing into this life.

Chances are, life without a Father to watch them grow into adults, get married, and have grandchildren with a Grandfather to look up to.

You think money will solve the kids problems...............your so narrow minded.

The life expectancy is around 80 for western men. At 70 most need some kind of care for themselves.

Having a child should mean giving a life of commitment and support to a child.

At 55 or above, do you really think you can give that commitment and support, or does it just make you feel more of a man to know the little head still functions.

I like your signature....you have some work to do.

[thehelmsman]

I respect that and everyone should have their own thoughts on their capacity or inclination to be a parent. For me, however, it's completely different. Although at nearly 55 I'd pretty much given up on the thought of having children, I couldn't be more delighted in having a son last month. I'm tempted to post another photo...........but I won't as I don't want to become a middle-aged baby bore.....

Go on, do it, the kids' really cute, well worth another photo (or two).

This is not the topic for baby photos. There are other places for that

It reminds me of that nauseatingly sycophant member who would post photo after photo and mention his two young children in nearly every post he made. It was over the top.

I cannot remember seeing him for the several weeks I have been back on here. His name was something like 'Danny'.

What happened to him? Not important,just wondering.

Don't you know, we're not allowed to talk about HIM anymore. Papa's listening.

[thehelmsman]

"How many kids do you have?" is one of the first questions I get asked by Thais. When I say I don't have any, they look at me as if I have somehow been negligent in my duties.

The next question is usually, "But who will look after you when you get old?"

And here lies a huge difference between Thai and Western values. In Australia, our culture is to grow our assets in our younger years so we can live on a nest-egg when we are older. The welfare system will also prop us up in times of financial and health needs.

Thais, on the other hand, generally are incapable or unprepared to save money, and with no such state assistance, the elderly often rely on family for support. The need for a Thai man to start a family becomes urgent if he is approaching middle age.

I am 52 years old, and I gave up any plan of bringing a baby into this world when I was about 40. I would want to be a father to my child, not a grandfather.

I respect that and everyone should have their own thoughts on their capacity or inclination to be a parent. For me, however, it's completely different. Although at nearly 55 I'd pretty much given up on the thought of having children, I couldn't be more delighted in having a son last month. I'm tempted to post another photo...........but I won't as I don't want to become a middle-aged baby bore.....

And so here's another one that couldn't be more delighted to have a kid.

The topic is not about you but the age of parents, particularly the western Father.

By my rational, you are too old to be the sharp, energetic Father so, if you don't mind me asking, "what sort of physical, mental and financial state are you in?"

Do you have the financial resources to send your kid to a western school equivalent?

Is your health favourable (your mothers and fathers health provide the best yardstick) enough to see your kid well into adulthood?

And last question; what's the go with the mother?

Reason I ask this question is that every doting father includes the mother as in "we are delighted in having our first son last month". That's every father I know, here and abroad.

Why is that a western style school is required for any happiness and sucess in Thailand?

Brewster - Hold back the pics. Congrats and all that on the baby, We all know this is one of those topics that will never be resolved.

[MaeJoMTB]

I'd guess a lot of these older men having children with much younger wives are trying to relive their lost youth.

They must have failed in their younger lives to hold down a relationship with their wives and children.

An ego trip and a last ditch effort to make amends for past failings?

You guessed wrong,

I was replacing what my former wife stole from me.

As for failed relationships, managed 30 years with the previous wife, guessing that's longer than you managed.

[MaeJoMTB]

And so here's another one that couldn't be more delighted to have a kid.

The topic is not about you but the age of parents, particularly the western Father.

By my rational, you are too old to be the sharp, energetic Father so, if you don't mind me asking, "what sort of physical, mental and financial state are you in?"

Do you have the financial resources to send your kid to a western school equivalent?

Is your health favourable (your mothers and fathers health provide the best yardstick) enough to see your kid well into adulthood?

And last question; what's the go with the mother?

Reason I ask this question is that every doting father includes the mother as in "we are delighted in having our first son last month". That's every father I know, here and abroad.

Why is that a western style school is required for any happiness and sucess in Thailand?

Yeah, I wondered about that too.

Thai government school is fine for Thai children, the bonus of them speaking two languages is enough.

But to be fair, haven't finally decided where to educate my 3 year old, thinking of moving to Spain for a while.

(I speak English, Thai, French and Spanish so plenty of choices)

Could go back to the UK, could stay in Thailand. With EU and Thai passports, he has many options and advantages.

Edited April 26, 2015 by MaeJoMTB