Peace TV may petition King over station shutdown

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Peace TV may petition King over station shutdown



BANGKOK: -- Redshirt-operated Peace TV may petition the King over the revocation of the station's operating licence by the National Broadcasting and Telecommunication (NBTC) on Monday.

Jatuporn, Prompan, chairman of the redshirt United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD), said yesterday he would first submit a letter to junta chairman and Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha today to urge him to overrule the NBTC’s order.

But if all efforts failed,he said he would write a petition to the King to seek fairness in the case.

“It will be the last thing we will do,” said Jatuporn.

According to Khaosod, he also said he would file legal action case against the NBTC.

The NBTC commissioner Col Natee Sukonrat said earlier that Peace TV’s news coverage violated the National Council for Peace and Order’s order No. 97, which forbids media from fomenting violence or causing “divisions in the Kingdom.”

The station, which is operated by the largely anti-coup Redshirt movement, often featured core Redshirt leaders like Jatuporn Prompan, Nattawut Saikua, and Thida Thawornseth.

Earlier Thai Broadcast Journalists Association (TBJA) issued a statement calling on the NBTC to revise its decision to revoke Peace TV’s license and consider other punishment options.

“The NBTC should strictly stick to its procedures, otherwise NBTC may be questioned whether it is being selective,” the statement said.

“As for Peace TV station, they must also bear in mind that although media has freedom, but that freedom must come with responsibility, especially in the time that Thailand needs understanding that will lead to reforms and reconciliation,” the statement said.

Asked to comment on the shutdown of Peace TV, Gen Prayut said, “Go ask NBTC. I don’t know. I have assigned them to look into it.”

“I have said already, if you don’t cooperate, you will be in trouble,” he continued. “So, blame your own boss. The editors, the publishing house owners. Don’t blame me.”

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/peace-tv-may-petition-king-over-station-shutdown


-- Thai PBS 2015-04-30

[15Peter20]

“It will be the last thing we will do,” said Jatuporn.

555. Go on everyone...file this one away for future reference.

[smedly]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

[Just1Voice]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

"...how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail,"

Gee, I don't know, but I doubt if it has been as many times as Sohdhi Limthongkul on bail for appeal AFTER his multiple convictions.

[EricBerg]

So strange that Jatuporn isn't behind bars. Perhaps he is cooperating with the junta? Then this whole thing is just a facade to mislead his red shirt buddies? And what about good ole Chalerm. The guy's still free. He must know about everything there is to know about red shirt corruption. Singing as payment for liberty? So far only Tarit and lil sis are being kicked. Mildly that is.

Please lock up the lot of them.

[Strangebrew]

The comment to bring his royal highness into this, is so wrong you want to force him to take sides handle it like a man through proper channels.

[Anthony5]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

Which "No" that is?

The one from there can be "No" opposition, or the one from you have "No" rights in this country, or maybe "No" we don't believe in democracy?

Edited April 30, 2015 by Anthony5

[lucky11]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

Which "No" that is?

The one from there can be "No" opposition, or the one from you have "No" rights in this country, or maybe "No" we don't believe in democracy?

It is not necessary to have an opposition at this point in time. What rights have been taken away from you other than to not commit crimes, foment violence or agitate? Democracy as not needed in Thailand at the moment as they are in the process of creating it. My personal view is that democracy is 'way' over played and is not as important and necessary as people make out!!

[Nickymaster]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

"...how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail,"

Gee, I don't know, but I doubt if it has been as many times as Sohdhi Limthongkul on bail for appeal AFTER his multiple convictions.

Meaning?

[djjamie]

Jatuporn is the perfect leader for the UDD. He attracts the hardcore, criminally minded underground elements and that is why the they are now a spent force that are becoming more and more irrelevant.

He is like the attention deficit disorder kid whose parents are embarrassed to bring out due to his behavioral problems.

Lock him up for the sake of peace, stability and a non violent future.

[JAG]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

Which "No" that is?

The one from there can be "No" opposition, or the one from you have "No" rights in this country, or maybe "No" we don't believe in democracy?

It is not necessary to have an opposition at this point in time. What rights have been taken away from you other than to not commit crimes, foment violence or agitate? Democracy as not needed in Thailand at the moment as they are in the process of creating it. My personal view is that democracy is 'way' over played and is not as important and necessary as people make out!!

Well, at least we know where you stand. Not that there ever was any doubt. Do the jackboots take a lot of polishing?

Edited April 30, 2015 by JAG

[rubl]

The comment to bring his royal highness into this, is so wrong you want to force him to take sides handle it like a man through proper channels.

It does sound a bit provocative, in my opinion. Even the statement to directly address the NCPO head and PM Prayut suggests a (near) total disregard of procedures all democracy minded defenders (aka UDD) hold so close to heart.

Do you know what the standard channel would be? Complain or raise a case with any of the 'administrative courts'?

[smedly]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

I'm on a whiskey diet, lost 3 days already

Seems like you have lost the plot, too. Never mind. Have another dram.

you think ?

how about contributing to the topic with your wisdom instead of attacking other posters

[tonbridgebrit]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

smedly, if they went and arrested a whole load of Chinese people who had yellow shirts on, well, I wouldn't have a problem if they also did what you've suggested.

[EnglishJohn]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

I'm on a whiskey diet, lost 3 days already

Seems like you have lost the plot, too. Never mind. Have another dram.

Smedley made an accurate comment based on experience of previous events. I see nothing wrong with what he posted.

Your own reply however smacks of a pickled idiot. You should quit that diet.

[seedy]

troll flaming posts removed

[HappyinNE]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

Which "No" that is?

The one from there can be "No" opposition, or the one from you have "No" rights in this country, or maybe "No" we don't believe in democracy?

It is not necessary to have an opposition at this point in time. What rights have been taken away from you other than to not commit crimes, foment violence or agitate? Democracy as not needed in Thailand at the moment as they are in the process of creating it. My personal view is that democracy is 'way' over played and is not as important and necessary as people make out!!

Is there still a "NO" on Freedom of Speech?

[NCFC]

The comment to bring his royal highness into this, is so wrong you want to force him to take sides handle it like a man through proper channels.

It does sound a bit provocative, in my opinion. Even the statement to directly address the NCPO head and PM Prayut suggests a (near) total disregard of procedures all democracy minded defenders (aka UDD) hold so close to heart.

Do you know what the standard channel would be? Complain or raise a case with any of the 'administrative courts'?

Since when was a coup a standard channel?

One rule for the plebs. Another rule for the elites.

[Robroona]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

"...how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail,"

Gee, I don't know, but I doubt if it has been as many times as Sohdhi Limthongkul on bail for appeal AFTER his multiple convictions.

What has Sondhi got to do with this thread? It is about Peace TV and Jatuporn making statements about its closing.

[seedy]

One Lese Majeste post removed.

Be VERY careful - better to ere on the side of caution and NEVER - make posts on this subject

[bornz]

Given their history, the irony of UDD submitting a royal petition is extreme in the utmost.

[bornz]

These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

"...how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail,"

Gee, I don't know, but I doubt if it has been as many times as Sohdhi Limthongkul on bail for appeal AFTER his multiple convictions.

What has Sondhi got to do with this thread?

Absolutely nothing.

It is but a feeble diversionary tactic.

[Si Thea01]

After reading the posts on this subject I am wondering what the problem is with some TVF members. Why is that some rubbish others and attack them mercilessly despite their posts being legible, articulate and presenting a reasonable discussion. Why do some appear to condone past atrocities, never offer a legitimate argument, decry other's opinions and appear to want to revert to the good old days? Or, as a last resort, attack the poster, not their opinion. Why is it that some give the impression that if they can't beat you one way, they'll try another, is it because they are unable to articulate an opinion of substance and, in turn, try to shut down the argument they know they cannot win through factual accuracy.

They never acknowledge past crimes, negligence, corruption or blatant lies used to conceal nefarious activities. It's as if these acts never happened; they praise those who don't deserve these accolades and just rubbish everything regardless of whether is it bringing criminals to justice, reducing corruption, stopping political murders, the killings of innocents on all sides and, for almost 12 months, bringing some peace and stability to those in all walks of life. It certainly gives the impression that one is dammed if they do, or dammed if they don't.

Many seem to forget that "Rome wasn't built in a day" yet despite everything that is being put into place, albeit slowly, they continue on in a most hateful and denigrating way, never offering a solution, just posting negatively, changing or twisting words and criticising all and sundry. I have spoken to Thais, some who present negatively, others positively however, on here, it's many foreigners, not all, who are always negative, no matter what, so may I ask, what do they expect to accomplish by ridiculing and complaining and posting in such an inane manner?

[smedly]

After reading the posts on this subject I am wondering what the problem is with some TVF members. Why is that some rubbish others and attack them mercilessly despite their posts being legible, articulate and presenting a reasonable discussion. Why do some appear to condone past atrocities, never offer a legitimate argument, decry other's opinions and appear to want to revert to the good old days? Or, as a last resort, attack the poster, not their opinion. Why is it that some give the impression that if they can't beat you one way, they'll try another, is it because they are unable to articulate an opinion of substance and, in turn, try to shut down the argument they know they cannot win through factual accuracy.

They never acknowledge past crimes, negligence, corruption or blatant lies used to conceal nefarious activities. It's as if these acts never happened; they praise those who don't deserve these accolades and just rubbish everything regardless of whether is it bringing criminals to justice, reducing corruption, stopping political murders, the killings of innocents on all sides and, for almost 12 months, bringing some peace and stability to those in all walks of life. It certainly gives the impression that one is dammed if they do, or dammed if they don't.

Many seem to forget that "Rome wasn't built in a day" yet despite everything that is being put into place, albeit slowly, they continue on in a most hateful and denigrating way, never offering a solution, just posting negatively, changing or twisting words and criticising all and sundry. I have spoken to Thais, some who present negatively, others positively however, on here, it's many foreigners, not all, who are always negative, no matter what, so may I ask, what do they expect to accomplish by ridiculing and complaining and posting in such an inane manner?

100% agree

they simply don't have the intellect to put up a valid point so all they can think of is attacking those that do or just posting blatant lies and nonsense, quite sad really, quite a lot of them have already been banned from the forum many times and come back with new Id's posting the same garbage as before.

In a face to face discussion many of them wouldn't last very long with me

[rubl]

The comment to bring his royal highness into this, is so wrong you want to force him to take sides handle it like a man through proper channels.

It does sound a bit provocative, in my opinion. Even the statement to directly address the NCPO head and PM Prayut suggests a (near) total disregard of procedures all democracy minded defenders (aka UDD) hold so close to heart.

Do you know what the standard channel would be? Complain or raise a case with any of the 'administrative courts'?

Since when was a coup a standard channel?

One rule for the plebs. Another rule for the elites.

Apart from this being Thailand I fail to understand what coups have to do with a possible petition to be allowed to keep a "peace TV" channel open.

[Jeffreyake]

peace TV? why didn't they call for peace when Yinglak was in office?

lol

[Trouble]

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These people just don't understand the word "no" they refuse to recognise any authority but their own, they are a group of very dangerous people, I would put a wager on it that there will be a terrorist event in Bangkok in the coming weeks maybe days that will target the NBTC or one of its members, that is the only way they know, if they don't get their way - murder someone

The organisation should be proscribed and banned and the leaders put in jail, how many times is Jutaporm going to be let out on bail, I can see how the PM wants to try and keep things calm but I think he is overestimating the support these criminals now have since the children were murdered in Trat and they all rejoiced on stage, arrest them check their assets and find out and expose where all their money came from

Which "No" that is?

The one from there can be "No" opposition, or the one from you have "No" rights in this country, or maybe "No" we don't believe in democracy?

It is not necessary to have an opposition at this point in time. What rights have been taken away from you other than to not commit crimes, foment violence or agitate? Democracy as not needed in Thailand at the moment as they are in the process of creating it. My personal view is that democracy is 'way' over played and is not as important and necessary as people make out!!

I guess that depends where one sits on the totem pole. If I was at the top, then no, Democracy is not needed. If I am at the bottom being told what to do and carrying the weight of the guy at the top, I might think differently.

[phoenixdoglover]

“I have said already, if you don’t cooperate, you will be in trouble,” he continued. “So, blame your own boss. The editors, the publishing house owners. Don’t blame me.” - the PM

Such is the standard by which the Junta makes decisions.

One member suggested Peace TV should appeal to the Administrative Court. Considering that the decision to shut down the station was (maybe) based on criteria in a Memorandum of Understanding [sic] imposed by the Junta, it is most likely the Court would simply run away from this matter. We're not talking about rule of law or due process. We're talking about silencing people who are not cooperating. The PM himself has made this abundantly clear.

Also, as I've note in other threads on this subject, there has not yet been any specific example cited on TVF of how Peace TV has recently violated any terms of the MOU. Just broad brush statements and hyperbole.

[billd766]

“I have said already, if you don’t cooperate, you will be in trouble,” he continued. “So, blame your own boss. The editors, the publishing house owners. Don’t blame me.” - the PM

Such is the standard by which the Junta makes decisions.

One member suggested Peace TV should appeal to the Administrative Court. Considering that the decision to shut down the station was (maybe) based on criteria in a Memorandum of Understanding [sic] imposed by the Junta, it is most likely the Court would simply run away from this matter. We're not talking about rule of law or due process. We're talking about silencing people who are not cooperating. The PM himself has made this abundantly clear.

Also, as I've note in other threads on this subject, there has not yet been any specific example cited on TVF of how Peace TV has recently violated any terms of the MOU. Just broad brush statements and hyperbole.

Why don't YOU do the research for a specific example and then publish YOUR findings here on TVF. You are the one who seems to be the most upset about it and and of course if you do find out you may understand why "Peace TV" was shut down for repeatedly ignoring the law as laid down by this government.

Before you start ranting about them not having the rights to bring in what they want consider this simple fact.

You don't like them as do many posters, I like them in some parts as do many other posters but you and I and everybody on TVF can fill thread upon thread with billions of electronic words and it won't change a thing.

This is Thailand. It is run by Thais and there is nothing you or I or anybody else who is not Thai can do or say to alter that fact, now or in the future.

I accepted that fact years ago and it doesn't matter if it is this government, the Democrats, PTP or any version of a Thaksin government is in power wse can't change it so you either have to live with it (but not necessarily like it), rant and rave or scream and shout, raise your blood pressure to high levels or simmply give up and go back to where you came from.

I chose option #1.

[dageurreotype]

Peace TV may petition King over station shutdown

No, no, stay your hand