Eric Loh Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Waited for Prayuth usual explosive blow out like he did with Chavalit and others after Thaksin poured scorn on his performance. Didn't happen; he just avoid Thaksin's remark. 2 coups to eradicate Thaksin power and influence seem not working to plan and the reconciliation attempts are falling to the wayside. Prayuth power is waning perhaps not entirely his own doing. Another wasteful coup and 2 years lost opportunities.if you call stopping protesters being killed and charlem allowing it too happen then yes it was a wasteful 1 year.... Let's agree to 3 wasted years with 1 year PDRC Bangkok shutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastguy Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Just how does a "convicted criminal" get to be invited and appear openly on various stages around Asia without a care in the world ?? Also how does he manage to hold on to his passport (which was renewed & handed to him overseas) whilst being in self-exile, surely his new passport should have been revoked !! After screwing up his sisters life he is now lining up his son for a fall.... strange family indeed where ultimate sacrifices must be made to get him back in favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Just how does a "convicted criminal" get to be invited and appear openly on various stages around Asia without a care in the world ?? Also how does he manage to hold on to his passport (which was renewed & handed to him overseas) whilst being in self-exile, surely his new passport should have been revoked !! After screwing up his sisters life he is now lining up his son for a fall.... strange family indeed where ultimate sacrifices must be made to get him back in favour. Really easy answers. The world don't see him as a convicted criminal but rather a political persecution. His ordinary passport was revoked by the AV government citing security risk. The next PT government said he was not and passport was returned. Normal political family not strange at all. Example Bush, LKY, Aguino, Najip etc etc Next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignose Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I may be a bit pedantic in my interpretation of this article, but to me it smacks of sensationalism with a contrived and misleading headline. Where in the quoted exchange and replies to questions did TS state that "he had no plans to mobilise red-shirt supporters"? I am no supporter of the Shin clan, the sooner he is brought to justice the better, but this headline is totally out of context with the text of the article. Slack and shoddy reporting of a very real and serious issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 "..he had no plans to mobilise red-shirt supporters." This staggering sentence proves the entire red-shirt movement is simply his personal tool, and I doubt a single one of them has the wit to realise it. Basically if Thaksin says go out and fight then you do. If he says stay at home then you do. What a shining example of a group claiming to represent democracy !. NOT. Compare yourselves to those who went protesting against the Amnesty bill without any 'orders', despite the terrorist attacks against them. You are not fit to clean their shoes. Red Shirts are nothing more to him than the Brown Shirts were to Hitler. And he will do the same to you as Hitler did to them if he ever gets the absolute power he has always craved. Luckily for you his own greed has made sure that will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 You'd think with all his money he could hire a tailor who knows how to measure properly No tailor in the world can accommodate hot air...Oh they can,,,, but it soon shows !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Just how does a "convicted criminal" get to be invited and appear openly on various stages around Asia without a care in the world ?? Also how does he manage to hold on to his passport (which was renewed & handed to him overseas) whilst being in self-exile, surely his new passport should have been revoked !! After screwing up his sisters life he is now lining up his son for a fall.... strange family indeed where ultimate sacrifices must be made to get him back in favour. Really easy answers. The world don't see him as a convicted criminal but rather a political persecution. His ordinary passport was revoked by the AV government citing security risk. The next PT government said he was not and passport was returned. Normal political family not strange at all. Example Bush, LKY, Aguino, Najip etc etc Next question. Bush, LKY, Aquino, were all convicted, jumped bail and became fugitives? They all have 15 serious other charges waiting in the courts too? He's a crook. But a very very wealthy one who has used very clever and expensive lobbyists, lawyers and PR professionals to create the image that his crimes aren't that serious, and that they were only prosecuted by his political enemies. Anyone who has lived and/or been closely associated with Thailand during Thaksin's rise is aware of the reality. Just shows the separate laws for the rich aren't just in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Waited for Prayuth usual explosive blow out like he did with Chavalit and others after Thaksin poured scorn on his performance. Didn't happen; he just avoid Thaksin's remark. 2 coups to eradicate Thaksin power and influence seem not working to plan and the reconciliation attempts are falling to the wayside. Prayuth power is waning perhaps not entirely his own doing. Another wasteful coup and 2 years lost opportunities.if you call stopping protesters being killed and charlem allowing it too happen then yes it was a wasteful 1 year.... Let's agree to 3 wasted years with 1 year PDRC Bangkok shutdown. Before agreeing you might want to define the periods you talk about. At looks like you have some overlap between wasted years and PDRC BKK shutdown as well. Anyway, Thaksin has no plans, no plans to mobilise the red shirts. I wonder what he really said. He's good at stating things like "who am I to do such?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ...what does it say when neighboring countries welcome a fugitive.....dunno.... ...as for coming off as a general poised to invade or overtake a country.... 'at his word'......how does any country condone it......strange.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ...what does it say when neighboring countries welcome a fugitive.....dunno.... ...as for coming off as a general poised to invade or overtake a country.... 'at his word'......how does any country condone it......strange.... It must be galling, how about Prayuth send an official invite to Kang Ho-Sun to give a talk about peaceful democracy and the importance of following the law? What the heck the Koreans are thinking by inviting this criminal thug is a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 He would if he could... Many now see him for what he is, any turnout of Red Shirts south of Chang Mai would be pathetically small as he could only mobilise a small number of "die-hards". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 You'd think with all his money he could hire a tailor who knows how to measure properly He should ask Prayut for the number of his tailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Why does it say "Yingluck was removed from office"? As I recall the government stepped down and then an illegal coup took place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Nice legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 A bunch of corrupt, draconian dinosaurs on one side and a corrupt megalomaniac on the other. Thailand desperately needs something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Why does it say "Yingluck was removed from office"? As I recall the government stepped down and then an illegal coup took place? Well well well-the government stepped down..........................why ??? and did they ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 If you were a real man you would come back to Thailand and face your punishment as a true Thai leader would do. You can talk the talk but you can not walk the walk. You are a convict and only people you can buy will listen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 So he is bragging that the red shirts are his foot soldiers. Perhaps a couple of pints and he would admit arming them with war weapons too. nothing short of a terrorist organisation funded by a despot criminal mad man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equalizer Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 On here he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balford Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 He and the rest of his family are oxygen thieves supported by the media and its craven kowtowing. Bob A. Relaxed in Lampang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowfactor10 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Could there be a difference in intellect when u hear Prayut and Taksin talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 A bunch of corrupt, draconian dinosaurs on one side and a corrupt megalomaniac on the other. Thailand desperately needs something new. Are you sleeping? Do you live in Thailand? Thailand has some thing new. A government that cares about the people and is trying to bring unity to a country that has been divided by a man with no morals and an ego bigger than a 747. It is a long process but all ready we see signs of the political corruption being punished. It will take a long time to get rid of it and as in any country in the world there will still be some. Also they will be starting to eliminate the corruption among the day to day bureaucrats. All time consuming jobs that can not be done in a day or the time period dreamers like you think. They have made Thailand a safer place than it was. The red shirt organization has been destroyed. It still has the leaders drawing money from Thaksin but the supporters who did not receive pay are no longer interested in it they are enjoying the peace. Of course there is still the criminal element who would gladly support the red shirts if Thaksin was to bring his check book out but they are a small minority. Thailand has turned a corner and can never return to the corruption led style of the Thaksin era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Surely there must be some law, somewhere, that prevents a convicted criminal from owning/running/operating/financing their own political party ... we've seen enough evidence now to "know" that it's Thaksin running it all and dictating what happens and when and who does what. Apparently there is none. How ever I am sure the new constitution will cover that. Thaksin is not running any thing now except his mouth and he is doing little of that. He knows that he is a beaten man and is to cheap to throw his ill gotten money in a quest to take over Thailand. He is a beaten man who can not even join the family for the family reunions at Songkran times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Please use discretion in your references to the government. Phrases which can be considered as anti-coup will be removed. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed. Posts using derogatory nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 A bunch of corrupt, draconian dinosaurs on one side and a corrupt megalomaniac on the other. Thailand desperately needs something new. Are you sleeping? Do you live in Thailand? Thailand has some thing new. A government that cares about the people and is trying to bring unity to a country that has been divided by a man with no morals and an ego bigger than a 747. It is a long process but all ready we see signs of the political corruption being punished. It will take a long time to get rid of it and as in any country in the world there will still be some. Also they will be starting to eliminate the corruption among the day to day bureaucrats. All time consuming jobs that can not be done in a day or the time period dreamers like you think. They have made Thailand a safer place than it was. The red shirt organization has been destroyed. It still has the leaders drawing money from Thaksin but the supporters who did not receive pay are no longer interested in it they are enjoying the peace. Of course there is still the criminal element who would gladly support the red shirts if Thaksin was to bring his check book out but they are a small minority. Thailand has turned a corner and can never return to the corruption led style of the Thaksin era. Hand on heart, do you really believe this? I suspect you're just winding us up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Waited for Prayuth usual explosive blow out like he did with Chavalit and others after Thaksin poured scorn on his performance. Didn't happen; he just avoid Thaksin's remark. 2 coups to eradicate Thaksin power and influence seem not working to plan and the reconciliation attempts are falling to the wayside. Prayuth power is waning perhaps not entirely his own doing. Another wasteful coup and 2 years lost opportunities.if you call stopping protesters being killed and charlem allowing it too happen then yes it was a wasteful 1 year....Let's agree to 3 wasted years with 1 year PDRC Bangkok shutdown. Before agreeing you might want to define the periods you talk about. At looks like you have some overlap between wasted years and PDRC BKK shutdown as well. Anyway, Thaksin has no plans, no plans to mobilise the red shirts. I wonder what he really said. He's good at stating things like "who am I to do such?" Rubi, do you think Thaksin still have the power and influence to mobilize the red shirts in mass? He may have the wealth but there will be little of anyone willing to put their lives at risk for the few hundred Bahts. If the Reds are mobilized, it will not be due to Thaksin influence or his money but for their beliefs that they have been discriminated and unfairly treated. That will be a even more dangerous proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Why doesn't the Puppeteer man-up & either return & face the music or......Shut the <deleted> up!! He assesses PM Prayut Gov't as "It's not so impressive yet," he said of the first year of the military government."They have to work harder" Ha,ha.... how good was his "puppet sister when in power?? Difference now is he gets no financial benefits!! The Prayut Gov't needs to take his "Red" passport away & world needs to see him as nothing more than a common criminal on the run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Rubi, do you think Thaksin still have the power and influence to mobilize the red shirts in mass? He may have the wealth but there will be little of anyone willing to put their lives at risk for the few hundred Bahts. If the Reds are mobilized, it will not be due to Thaksin influence or his money but for their beliefs that they have been discriminated and unfairly treated. That will be a even more dangerous proposition. And there probably are elements who would have no hesitation / are itching to stir up trouble in any way they can. I suggest that jatuporn, nattawut and many more are still locked into their red / udd manifesto, which by the way is about as clear as mud and no doubt locked into their personal benefits, and they will stir trouble at the drop of a hat. and this 'group' do have the capabilities in terms of clever (but dishonest) rhetoric to seriously stir and to cause division and dissent. And if you believe that the paymaster is not involved then you probably believe in the tooth fairy. Which means that the new government as part of the reform process needs urgently to show the people who believe they have been discriminated against (and I have no hesitation to believe that they have been discrimated against) that there is reform in process to ensure going forward they have equal opportunities and have easy and fair access to fair justice. Edited May 20, 2015 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waitforusalso Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 A bunch of corrupt, draconian dinosaurs on one side and a corrupt megalomaniac on the other. Thailand desperately needs something new. Are you sleeping? Do you live in Thailand? Thailand has some thing new. A government that cares about the people and is trying to bring unity to a country that has been divided by a man with no morals and an ego bigger than a 747. It is a long process but all ready we see signs of the political corruption being punished. It will take a long time to get rid of it and as in any country in the world there will still be some. Also they will be starting to eliminate the corruption among the day to day bureaucrats. All time consuming jobs that can not be done in a day or the time period dreamers like you think. They have made Thailand a safer place than it was. The red shirt organization has been destroyed. It still has the leaders drawing money from Thaksin but the supporters who did not receive pay are no longer interested in it they are enjoying the peace. Of course there is still the criminal element who would gladly support the red shirts if Thaksin was to bring his check book out but they are a small minority. Thailand has turned a corner and can never return to the corruption led style of the Thaksin era. Wow! Do you wanna come over for a game of poker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 If you call stopping protesters being killed and charlem allowing it too happen then yes it was a wasteful 1 year....Let's agree to 3 wasted years with 1 year PDRC Bangkok shutdown. Before agreeing you might want to define the periods you talk about. At looks like you have some overlap between wasted years and PDRC BKK shutdown as well. Anyway, Thaksin has no plans, no plans to mobilise the red shirts. I wonder what he really said. He's good at stating things like "who am I to do such?" Rubi, do you think Thaksin still have the power and influence to mobilize the red shirts in mass? He may have the wealth but there will be little of anyone willing to put their lives at risk for the few hundred Bahts. If the Reds are mobilized, it will not be due to Thaksin influence or his money but for their beliefs that they have been discriminated and unfairly treated. That will be a even more dangerous proposition. Of course I believe Thaksin still has the power, people here keep telling me. Also the newspaper keep on describing Thaksin as 'de facto' UDD leader. There the frequent mix of Pheu Thai and UDD, Shinawatras 'pretty' and red shirts, the UDD is called the red-shirt 'umbrella' organisation. Red-shirts are likely to be mobilised when their poor little Amply Rich girl is being discriminated against and unfairly treated. Again, I was told so a few times by members here who seem to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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