Rimmer Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 PEA blames third-party techs for Pattaya wiring problems PATTAYA:--Blasted in the media and online for dangerous, low-hanging jumbles of wires hanging from its utility poles, the Provincial Electricity Authority blamed shoddy work by technicians from cable-television and Internet suppliers for the problem. PEA technical officer Panya Boonsamer May 12 said every company other than the PEA is responsible for adding to the cable problem so evident throughout Pattaya, especially along Sukhumvit Road. He explained that when a customer signs up for a new or different cable-TV, Internet or telephone service, technicians from those providers string a new live wire. At the same time, they’re supposed to remove the old, dead cable from the power poles, on which companies rent space. In reality, however, few technicians bother to remove the old cable, even when they see the weight of the existing lines has caused the entire bundle to sag. Panya said PEA has contacted all the companies renting space on its pole to address the problem and remove dead lines. However, he acknowledged the process may take time as all the work requests must make their way through corporate bureaucracies and be approved by head offices in Bangkok. - See more at: http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/pea-blames-third-party-techs-for-pattaya-wiring-problems-47274#sthash.rhwTkFhl.dpuf -- Pattaya Mail 2015-05-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkpanther99 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 That's a great picture! Look at the state of that cabling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 wow, how would they ever find a fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Quote "" the process may take time as all the work requests must make their way through corporate bureaucracies and be approved by head offices in Bangkok"" Or in simple English "Nothing will happen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hang it low....makes for easy install and easy maintenance (not to imply maintenance is ever done until failure). Just hope it don't become the rage one day for vandals just to go around cutting wires because they won't need any ladders to do it. Not quite sure why low hanging cables like in the picture are not more of a target for copper thieves....some fiber optics probably there also...but copper is what they want. In my moobaan here in Bangkok a third party contractor recently installed some fiber optics cable for True...they seemed to do a pretty good job "except" where the cable goes around power transformers....made the loop around the transformers way too big....not bundled with the other cable TV & phone lines looping around the transformer...the loop is so big it almost lays on the ground....just low quality installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Why dont they lay the cables in the ground like most western countries ? Edited May 22, 2015 by balo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Why dont they lay the cables in the ground like most western countries ? Cost I expect....would be a lot more expensive. And it would take a heck of a lot more approvals when it comes to digging....messing up roads, sidewalks, waterlines, possibly gas lines, entrances into lots owned by people, etc., due to the digging....if it was not approved and done right they would have an army of disgruntled citizens complaining. But stringing another cable on a pole is, fast, easy, and cheap....and usually don't upset anyone. It may not be pretty...but it's fast and cheap...and don't require any long term planning for underground wiring needs for years into the future. Edited May 22, 2015 by Pib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Pattaya Klang and Second Road? What if the PEA gave a reasonable time frame to the guilty companies and said failure to comply by said date will result in the cutting of all the cables. That would get everybody's attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksamuiguy Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Fix the problem in 30 days or we will remove the cables from Our Poles. Than DO IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beng Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Quote "" the process may take time as all the work requests must make their way through corporate bureaucracies and be approved by head offices in Bangkok"" Or in simple English "Nothing will happen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean008 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 And the PEA never noticed what was happening. faultless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 As the " lease " holder PEA has the right to remove any offending cable Just like if I rent out an apartment and the tenant doesn't take out the garbage, I have the right to enter and remove it myself If PEA really gave a sh... they have the ability to do something but Thainess dictates that they just delay the solution by blaming someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 As the " lease " holder PEA has the right to remove any offending cable Just like if I rent out an apartment and the tenant doesn't take out the garbage, I have the right to enter and remove it myself If PEA really gave a sh... they have the ability to do something but Thainess dictates that they just delay the solution by blaming someone else True, however if PEA did that, many would have their cable , phone and Internet cut as PEA has no knowledge of what is dead or active. Not to mention the cost involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 These things are also a fire hazard. Seen it go up in flames a few times during hot days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 My son-in-law comes from UK to visit alternate years. He is the Health & Safety officer for a chemical company in Yorkshire. He has taken numerous photos of the low-hanging spaghetti on 2nd road. I have to support him as he is laughing so hard. He uses the photos in seminars on how not to do things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circusman Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why dont they lay the cables in the ground like most western countries ? Because they are not a Western country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee4Life Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) wow, how would they ever find a fault? Why look for a fault? Just run another cable Even where we live in rural Isan the internet and phone cables alongside the small back roads are low enough that you have to dodge them if you ride your motorbike along the edge of the roadway. A couple of times they have hit the top of my helmet when I forgot and got over too far, I don't expect it to be like back home...but I do forget to watch out sometimes. Edited May 23, 2015 by Lee4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffinator Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why dont they lay the cables in the ground like most western countries ? That involves common sense and having the smarts to create maps and install sensors. I did hear from a friend in Phuket that they are starting (in certain places) to bury the cables and apparently the areas look much better for it. Apparently last year they were digging up Rawai beach road for new sewers but it didn't occur to them to liaise with PEA to bury the cables at the same time and save a load of money. I'm afraid the lights are on but nobody is home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 wow, how would they ever find a fault? Actually, finding a fault isn't all that difficult with the right equipment which I've seen almost all the technicians carry. Also, what PEA says is true. Their electric lines are at the top of the poles all by themselves and MOSTLY installed pretty well. They have to be because their lines can kill people. And yes, some of these lines or lines going into a given building have come lose, dropped to the ground in a rain storm and killed people, but mostly they are fairly well done. The cable, internet and phone people don't have to care because the signals carried on these lines do not kill and PEA, nor the government has ever enforced any type of rules or regulations on these companies, at least not that I or anyone else can tell. Therefore, PEA shouldn't be surprised at all the spaghetti hanging alongside every street in Pattaya now. It should be a source of shame for Thailand and Pattaya city government, but this is part and parcel of what it means to be a 3rd world country...very few regulations and laws or a total lack of enforcement or both. So in the end it is PEA's fault it's like this and the government's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl64 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why dont they lay the cables in the ground like most western countries ? Because you would have to dig fricken big holes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why dont they lay the cables in the ground like most western countries ? Simple it costs money that they do not want to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 wow, how would they ever find a fault? Actually, finding a fault isn't all that difficult with the right equipment which I've seen almost all the technicians carry. Also, what PEA says is true. Their electric lines are at the top of the poles all by themselves and MOSTLY installed pretty well. They have to be because their lines can kill people. And yes, some of these lines or lines going into a given building have come lose, dropped to the ground in a rain storm and killed people, but mostly they are fairly well done. The cable, internet and phone people don't have to care because the signals carried on these lines do not kill and PEA, nor the government has ever enforced any type of rules or regulations on these companies, at least not that I or anyone else can tell. Therefore, PEA shouldn't be surprised at all the spaghetti hanging alongside every street in Pattaya now. It should be a source of shame for Thailand and Pattaya city government, but this is part and parcel of what it means to be a 3rd world country...very few regulations and laws or a total lack of enforcement or both. So in the end it is PEA's fault it's like this and the government's fault. Anything to save a buck sorry baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthai Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 DON'T put them underground, PLEASE........ TIT It will take the "work"men forever and as always something goes wrong and the whole Soi will be dug up again (for weeks/months). It is just a matter of good workers and organizing it. Yes, my country has everything in every city underground (Holland) [part of the taxes we pay], but take the USA for example, loads of cities with wire poles and wooden homes, cheap, cheap, cheap for the American dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Again we go around around and around with this problem. Sorry! this is the PEA problem and the cause for allowing the many Municipals not enforcing the requirement. How many times are you going to warn these utilities, people human nature and especially with the degree of corruption if you do not inspect and impose a penalty worth doing something to correct it this is exactly what happens. A good example I'm right is just look at how many people are dying each day from non-enforcement of the existing driving laws here in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRacer Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 There is no hope. The cable mess depicts perfectly the state of bureaucracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchurch259 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 It is not just Pattaya, it is all over Thailand. Bangkok is just as bad and is an eye sore to the "Quality Tourist", it sure is an eye sore to a farang like me who has wondered for 11 years "Who in the hell is stupid to allow this to be"?? One of the whole problems in Thailand is it seems like no body gives a damn !! They say it is always been that way and always be that way. Which is true if no one is held accountable !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Make it a Monument, or at least a museum's piece, as it depicts perfectly the way things get done. It could also be a metaphor for Bangkok traffic snarls, the convoluted bureaucracy of the government and the Thai Police trying to follow a lead. I'm sure there is more what that could stand for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 From my travels ... the problem is nationwide...not just Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 As usual, absolutely no oversight being done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigdd Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Easy it's all your own fault , when election come vote for some one can do the job , if not get a new one . All your own doing . I know you don't like that , but that's the truth and the truth hurts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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