Government hopes new courts to help rid Thailand of criminals

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Government hopes new courts to help rid Thailand of criminals



BANGKOK, 15 June 2015 (NNT) - The government hopes that a number of new departments under the Criminal Court will effectively help rid Thailand of miscreants.

Deputy government spokesman Maj Gen Sunsern Kaewkumnerd said that the government is pleased to learn that the Supreme Court has set up new departments to deal with cases of human-trafficking, drug-related crimes and corruption as well as unscrupulous activities of state officials.

These departments have been officially opened since June 13 due to the continued rise in these types of cases. They will be working independently, said the spokesman.

According to Maj Gen Sunsern, these departments will help accelerate the proceedings against all related cases, while their introduction shows how much all three branches of Thailand’s government, including the executive branch, the legislative branch and the judicial branch, are related.

He added that these departments also reflect Thailand’s recognition of the importance of the fight against human-trafficking, narcotics and corruption.


-- NNT 2015-06-15

[Seastallion]

Fight corruption mercilessly and thoroughly , and the other two problems will reduce so dramatically that no special court is needed for them.

[Bannum opinions]

All well and good.

How about a judicial entity to rid Thailand of Judicial double standards.

Perhaps this much ballyhooed stuff about Reform could address that issue. But reform is not needed on one side of the political divide according to the powers that be.

The willful blindness on this issue is as good an indicator as any, where politically the judiciary is aligned.

One side of the political divide says, "What double standards?"...While the other side would be only too happy to list them

Until their critique is silenced, double standards exist. Period.

Edited June 15, 2015 by Bannum opinions

[PatOngo]

A daunting task........this should lead to a decrease in population!

[zaphod reborn]

Most criminals are in the employ of the government. Start with the police and work from there.

[noitom]

When will they ever bust a few Thai big men corporate and Thai big men bankers? That woul help the crooks to take them seriously.

[trogers]

Earmark the National Budget to build more high security prisons. No use to just improve the courts and forget the downstream.

[DLang]

So they're going to sack themselves and all their friends?

[JOC]

>>According to Maj Gen Sunsern, these departments will help accelerate the proceedings against all related cases, while their introduction shows how much all three branches of Thailand’s government, including the executive branch, the legislative branch and the judicial branch, are related.<< Quote

Laugh or cry??

Yes the three branches are indeed related, because the powers they hold, are in the hands of one person, ours all Mr P !!

[WhizBang]

Reform the police first.

[kkup]

I guess they'll be sacking themselves and the entire police force.

[phoenixdoglover]

New divisions of the Supreme Court.

In the US, there are criminal courts, appeals courts and Supreme courts at the State level, and then a similar structure at the Federal (country)level.

This arrangement enables appeals, overturned verdicts, and rulings establishing precedence; all of which tends to root out poor judicial behaviors.

So does Thailand have something similar (right of appeal, an appeals process to a higher court), and how does that work if the initial court is a division of the country's Supreme Court?

[SOUTHERNSTAR]

You can create a thousand new courts but if the judges are corrupt you achieve nothing. Let all the serving judges (once a year) and all new selected judges undergo strict vetting to ensure the corrupt once are kept out. Then repeat the same vetting for all policemen, RTA and civil servants. In the process 80% of them will be guilty of some form of corruption and must be fired. The country can then pay the straight civil servants double what they now get and they will still be able to do all the work. In the end they can build the mega project without taking one loan. 555

[SOTIRIOS]

......suggestion....

...do not approach it....and publish it....like 'it's an external thing'..........

[ezzra]

On the other hand, jails and prisons in this country are over flowing and the authorities are

having to released many prisoners free well before their sentences have been completed....

[Johnnie99]

On the other hand they might just achieve something.

Let's at least try to be positive. Small steps, people.

[Tatsujin]

Great! More "courts" to be bought and paid for ... pastry anyone?

[BlackJack]

Magna Carta is 800 years old today

many countries have based their constitutions and laws on it

[6NS]

Magna Carta is 800 years old today

many countries have based their constitutions and laws on it

I believe the Magna-Carta it's self would elude to the fact that Dictatorship it's self is absolute corruption.

[Srikcir]

New divisions of the Supreme Court.

In the US, there are criminal courts, appeals courts and Supreme courts at the State level, and then a similar structure at the Federal (country)level.

This arrangement enables appeals, overturned verdicts, and rulings establishing precedence; all of which tends to root out poor judicial behaviors.

So does Thailand have something similar (right of appeal, an appeals process to a higher court), and how does that work if the initial court is a division of the country's Supreme Court?

In a somewhat similar fashion Thailand does.

However, unlike the USA (but like several European countries), the prosecution can appeal a court verdict all the way to the Supreme Court. The Thai courts can also try people in absentia for major criminal offenses.

Unlike the USA (but like several European countries), Thailand relies on common law instead of case law to guide court rulings.

But unlike the USA or any of the European countries, military Junta led by General Prayut has judicial powers under Article 44 of the NCPO Interim Charter that cannot be superceded by the Thailand Supreme Court.

Edited June 15, 2015 by Srikcir

[rethaier]

No country has ever succeeded in ridding iitself of criminals. This is just more smoke blown up the proverbial <deleted> of the masses.

[Basil B]

If Thailand is really serous about tackling crime it will need a lot more prisons...

[JohnnyJazz]

People should give the junta a chance. It's maybe hard for some to believe but not long ago Hong Kong was a very corrupted place as well, rotten up to the very top. The ICAC was created in 1974 and now Hong Kong is considered one of the most corruption free place in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Commission_Against_Corruption_%28Hong_Kong%29

[Jimlove]

Start by putting the Police Force in prison then move on to 90-100% of all other officials, oh god the list will be endless ... no wonder anything ever happens - simply too many criminals to deal with ....

[avocadowangnamkeouw]

Another lame attempt to fool the own population.

As the majority of corruption and connected criminal activities find their origin in governmental cliques,

still the judge who could do something about that, the Administrative Judge, has no authority.

He only can advice

[Somtamnication]

Reminds me of that Pink Floyd album cover.

[jackanapes]

opening new departments will not stop crime only deterrents will make that difference the laws need to be changed and punishments to fit the crimes the laws in Thailand are archaic and should be brought up to date .

[phoenixdoglover]

New divisions of the Supreme Court.

In the US, there are criminal courts, appeals courts and Supreme courts at the State level, and then a similar structure at the Federal (country)level.

This arrangement enables appeals, overturned verdicts, and rulings establishing precedence; all of which tends to root out poor judicial behaviors.

So does Thailand have something similar (right of appeal, an appeals process to a higher court), and how does that work if the initial court is a division of the country's Supreme Court?

In a somewhat similar fashion Thailand does.

However, unlike the USA (but like several European countries), the prosecution can appeal a court verdict all the way to the Supreme Court. The Thai courts can also try people in absentia for major criminal offenses.

Unlike the USA (but like several European countries), Thailand relies on common law instead of case law to guide court rulings.

But unlike the USA or any of the European countries, military Junta led by General Prayut has judicial powers under Article 44 of the NCPO Interim Charter that cannot be superceded by the Thailand Supreme Court.

Thanks. This is consistent with what I have been reading.

So I object, Your Honor!

Establishing additional court divisions at the Supreme Court level, for the prosecution of offenses under criminal law, is arbitrary, capricious, and a way to eliminate opportunities for appeal.

Clever Junta.

[kannot]

Lock up Thailand and throw away the key!!

[JohnnyJazz]

I see a lot of very negative comments but just think of Hong Kong prior to the establishment of the ICAC in 1974, not so long ago :

Hong Kong, a city where institutionalised corruption penetrated every strata of society. Bribes known as "tea money" were paid for basic services, from getting a home phone installed to making sure firefighters showed up when there was a blaze. Police officers of all ranks had accepted payoffs for decades.

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1428093/forty-years-its-creation-how-icac-cleaned-corruption-hong-kong?page=all

Edited June 15, 2015 by JohnnyJazz