1 wounded in shooting at San Francisco gay pride event

[Lite Beer]

1 wounded in shooting at San Francisco gay pride event

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Police say a bystander has been shot at a gay pride event in San Francisco when an argument between several young men turned violent.

Officer Carlos Manfredi says several people were detained for questioning after the shooting Saturday evening.

The shooting triggered a chaotic scene as dozens of people ran screaming as officers carrying handguns rushed to the scene.

Manfredi says a 64-year-old man who was caught in the crossfire got shot in the arm. He's hospitalized in stable condition.

Four shots were heard in a witness video posted online.

Manfredi says the argument had nothing to do with the gay pride event.

A concert that was part of the weekend-long gay pride celebration across the city was ending around the time of the shooting.

-- (c) Associated Press 2015-06-28

[ezzra]

So what happened to cat fight hair pulling and calling names?

[Orac]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

[samran]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

If only all the rest of them and a uzi. None of this would have happened....

[Usernames]

Video here. Draw your own conclusion. It was another vibrant day in San Fran, apparently. Wonder what will happen when one of the jihadis gets it into their head to protest a gay pride event and does it in his distinctly idiosyncratic way. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/06/27/caught-on-video-verbal-altercation-ends-shooting-at-un-plaza-1-hurt/#comments

[Time Traveller]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

Edited June 28, 2015 by Time Traveller

[tartempion]

No different from Thailand...

At a village party for a son being in monk hood for 3 weeks (well the party ending he long monk hood) some fighting occurred and I saw a guy a few meters from me brandishing a gun and shooting in the air. I ducked with my wife under the music band stage and waited the folks to calm done. Just a usual day here.

Cowboys everywhere, not much brains...

So I am an anti-American racist?

Edited June 28, 2015 by tartempion

[Trentham]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

ARE YOU FOR REAL??? I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU JUST WROTE.

You must be what they call a "REDNECK".

[Jingthing]

This really seems like strictly local news. Just another shooting. Not terrorism. Not a hate crime. As in San Francisco news and that's it.

The SF Pride week events in general are bigger news because they coincidentally happen right after the momentous supreme court decision dramatically advancing gay American civil rights.

Each year there is both a political and a party aspect to those events depending on what's happening in the world.

Edited June 28, 2015 by Jingthing

[Time Traveller]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

ARE YOU FOR REAL??? I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU JUST WROTE.

You must be what they call a "REDNECK".

I suspect you've been brainswashed by CNN and US media.

Where were you when 12 French people were shot dead by Muslim gunmen, was anyone calling for stricter French Guns laws then?

Have we heard anyone asking for Tunisia to ban guns? What about Syrian gun laws? Or Mexican gun laws? Gun crimes in those countries are ok, right? But lets punish those law abiding citizens that own guns in America instead.

The only time racist fascists like you ever talk about guns are evil, so let's ban them, is when it happens in America. And even then, if it's black killing blacks you close your eyes or blame it on whites for turning blacks into criminals.

I stand by what I said. One person on that beach in Tunisia with a gun could have saved dozens of lives. The fact that one person was shot in SF, does not mean lawful owners should not have the right to defend their lives.

Call me a redneck if you want, but I ain't no hypocrite.

Edited June 28, 2015 by Time Traveller

[Chicog]

Well in London they had an ISIS flag! (Well according to CNN...... <heh>)....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y6qTLf0AI4&feature=youtu.be

Edited June 28, 2015 by Chicog

[circusman]

Video here. Draw your own conclusion. It was another vibrant day in San Fran, apparently. Wonder what will happen when one of the jihadis gets it into their head to protest a gay pride event and does it in his distinctly idiosyncratic way. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/06/27/caught-on-video-verbal-altercation-ends-shooting-at-un-plaza-1-hurt/#comments

Guess you don't read so well. Had nothing to do with gay pride parade.

[stevenl]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

That would be about every second of the day then.

[Trentham]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

ARE YOU FOR REAL??? I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU JUST WROTE.

You must be what they call a "REDNECK".

I suspect you've been brainswashed by CNN and US media.

Where were you when 12 French people were shot dead by Muslim gunmen, was anyone calling for stricter French Guns laws then?

Have we heard anyone asking for Tunisia to ban guns? What about Syrian gun laws? Or Mexican gun laws? Gun crimes in those countries are ok, right? But lets punish those law abiding citizens that own guns in America instead.

The only time racist fascists like you ever talk about guns are evil, so let's ban them, is when it happens in America. And even then, if it's black killing blacks you close your eyes or blame it on whites for turning blacks into criminals.

I stand by what I said. One person on that beach in Tunisia with a gun could have saved dozens of lives. The fact that one person was shot in SF, does not mean lawful owners should not have the right to defend their lives.

Call me a redneck if you want, but I ain't no hypocrite.

Keep on writing, the world would be laughing at you if you were not such a sad specimen of humanity. Have you read about the Australian shooting tragedy at Port Arthur and what PM John Howard did after that? The results have been outstanding.

You have revealed your own racism, not mine by your mention of Black Americans and also revealed your own dislike of then with your own fascist comment.

And for the way you have deduced that I am a fascist by reading my 3 little sentences defies belief and once again exposes your true racist and fascist nature.

[Seastallion]

Well in London they had an ISIS flag! (Well according to CNN...... <heh>)....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y6qTLf0AI4&feature=youtu.be

I think Feaux News will be trying to snap her up.

[Seastallion]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

Shooting outside of the US...silence, because it's rare for it to happen in the same place daily; It's the US 2nd Amendment farce that's railed against.

Black on black...well, he was NOT being silent...this was a shooting between blacks (albeit a white accidental victim).

[Usernames]

Video here. Draw your own conclusion. It was another vibrant day in San Fran, apparently. Wonder what will happen when one of the jihadis gets it into their head to protest a gay pride event and does it in his distinctly idiosyncratic way. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/06/27/caught-on-video-verbal-altercation-ends-shooting-at-un-plaza-1-hurt/#comments

Guess you don't read so well. Had nothing to do with gay pride parade.

Apparently, you're the one with reading difficulties. I write "draw your own conclusion." It happend "during gay pride celebrations," exactly as the headline of the story linked to indicates. But I do think there is a very good chance that some of the more radically inclined jihadis may get some ideas from this.

[quandow]

The real issue with guns is that you don't need more gun control, you need idiot control. Kinda like porn - you can't really define it, but you know it when you see it. Unfortunately, that would be such a subjective law that it would be impossible to apply.

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

30,000 people in the USA are killed each year from gun violence alone. That is more than all other developed nations in the world combined!! You don't see this as a problem that might need to be addressed?

Yet if one person got killed in the US by an act of islamic terrorism the panic would be enormous, as it always is.

The fear mongering in the US is second to none unless it involves their own citizens killing each other with guns.

[MockingJay]

...nothing to be proud of

[soalbundy]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

ARE YOU FOR REAL??? I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU JUST WROTE.

You must be what they call a "REDNECK".

I suspect you've been brainswashed by CNN and US media.

Where were you when 12 French people were shot dead by Muslim gunmen, was anyone calling for stricter French Guns laws then?

Have we heard anyone asking for Tunisia to ban guns? What about Syrian gun laws? Or Mexican gun laws? Gun crimes in those countries are ok, right? But lets punish those law abiding citizens that own guns in America instead.

The only time racist fascists like you ever talk about guns are evil, so let's ban them, is when it happens in America. And even then, if it's black killing blacks you close your eyes or blame it on whites for turning blacks into criminals.

I stand by what I said. One person on that beach in Tunisia with a gun could have saved dozens of lives. The fact that one person was shot in SF, does not mean lawful owners should not have the right to defend their lives.

Call me a redneck if you want, but I ain't no hypocrite.

you're a time traveler........ from the past.

[Time Traveller]

ARE YOU FOR REAL??? I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU JUST WROTE.

You must be what they call a "REDNECK".

I suspect you've been brainswashed by CNN and US media.

Where were you when 12 French people were shot dead by Muslim gunmen, was anyone calling for stricter French Guns laws then?

Have we heard anyone asking for Tunisia to ban guns? What about Syrian gun laws? Or Mexican gun laws? Gun crimes in those countries are ok, right? But lets punish those law abiding citizens that own guns in America instead.

The only time racist fascists like you ever talk about guns are evil, so let's ban them, is when it happens in America. And even then, if it's black killing blacks you close your eyes or blame it on whites for turning blacks into criminals.

I stand by what I said. One person on that beach in Tunisia with a gun could have saved dozens of lives. The fact that one person was shot in SF, does not mean lawful owners should not have the right to defend their lives.

Call me a redneck if you want, but I ain't no hypocrite.

Keep on writing, the world would be laughing at you if you were not such a sad specimen of humanity. Have you read about the Australian shooting tragedy at Port Arthur and what PM John Howard did after that? The results have been outstanding.

You have revealed your own racism, not mine by your mention of Black Americans and also revealed your own dislike of then with your own fascist comment.

And for the way you have deduced that I am a fascist by reading my 3 little sentences defies belief and once again exposes your true racist and fascist nature.

Anyone who says certain persons are allowed to protect their lives from physical threat while other people are not entitiled to that priveledge, that is my definition of a fascist.

Coincidentally, I left Australia after the gun buy back, not because of it, but I have no intention of ever living there again. Why would I? I was the victim of a violent crime while I lived there. Had I been legally allowed to carry a weapon I probably wouldn't have spent time in a hospital. So maybe my view is biased. Do I care what you think or if you're laughing at my views? I know I care what the law says. And I know criminals prefer targets that are unarmed. And I know I care about the lives of myself and my family.

But, consider your views on guns and ask yourself should you have your Car taken away because some idiot driver, unknown to you, somewhere else, intentionally drove their car into a crowd killing people? That's the same logic the anti gun crowd use. They have no other justification.

Edited June 28, 2015 by Time Traveller

[ggt]

Many people were wounded and pride destroyed by the US Supreme BS Court's recent decisions...sad day for America...then to rub salt into the wound...the Whitehouse was bathed in lights which displayed rainbow colors...what a crock...

I hope these folks proudly display their colors when doing battle against ISIS when they invade...

[Jingthing]

Many people were wounded and pride destroyed by the US Supreme BS Court's recent decisions...sad day for America...then to rub salt into the wound...the Whitehouse was bathed in lights which displayed rainbow colors...what a crock...

I hope these folks proudly display their colors when doing battle against ISIS when they invade...

Haters gonna hate.

Sorry for your loss.

Of absolutely nothing.

Edited June 28, 2015 by Jingthing

[sirineou]

If this was not World news, I don' t know what is

[Graemej100]

Time Traveller. Are you suggesting that if everyone at this gay event were carring guns this would never have happened? Are you suggesting that if the congregation in the church, where those people were slaughtered, were carrying guns it would not have happened? (You mate Jeb Bush seems to think so) Are you suggesting that if the children at Sandy Nook (?) were carring guns they would not be dead?

Drunk cars do not kill people. Spoons do not make people fat. People with guns shoot people. People without guns do not shoot people. I really believe that.

This should be compulsory viewing to ALL people - anti or pro gun - and with a sense of humour (with a 'U'. I write in English.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl--YVnni0I

[geriatrickid]

Police said the altercation was between two groups of teenagers. Six of them have been detained. It is still not certain whether the clash was gang-related. A vendor at one of the Pride booths was wounded and taken to the hospital. Police said they are expected to survive.

So what happened to cat fight hair pulling and calling names?

Why would that happen?

Video here. Draw your own conclusion. It was another vibrant day in San Fran, apparently. Wonder what will happen when one of the jihadis gets it into their head to protest a gay pride event and does it in his distinctly idiosyncratic way. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/06/27/caught-on-video-verbal-altercation-ends-shooting-at-un-plaza-1-hurt/#comments

I didn't need to have additional information to have a good hunch this was related to the free concert at the civic arena. A bunch of juiced up adolescents, perhaps with gang affiliation(s), went to the concert. They went looking for trouble and that's what they got. Some old gay salesman who had nothing to do with the argument got a slug in his arm and somehow this is an indictment of gay pride. Seriously?

Some people need to contain their fears of gay people. Relax.

Edited June 28, 2015 by geriatrickid

[geriatrickid]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

Whoa. Do you realize that you have just made a fool of yourself? Tunisia allows fire arm ownership. The big difference is that many people do not own guns, because until recently shooting people was not part of the culture. it still isn't, but ISIS is changing that. The other big difference is that one needs a license to possess a firearm. "an applicant for a firearm licence in Tunisia must pass a background check which considers criminal and mental records". This means that unlike the USA where criminals and psychos can go to the nearest gun show or gun collector and purchase anything they want, it's just harder to obtain a gun license in Tunisia. In Tunisia a person can own a long-arm, a revolver or an automatic weapon.

Are you aware that the resorts in Tunisia do have guards? Until yesterday's attack, there had never been an attack like it on a Tunisian resort. There were armed Tunisian police close by. It is why the killings were stopped quickly. You intimate that had Tunisians been armed, this event would never have occurred. Let me remind you, that the 9-11 attackers easily passed through airport security concealing their weapons. When a terrorist wants to kill, the terrorist will kill. Israel is armed to the teeth and yet terrorists were able to kill at will. The attacks only stopped once Israel built its separation barrier which kept killers out.

How would having everyone armed at the San Francisco event have helped? People would have been shot in the crossfire. Most US gun owners have no firearm skills. They do not practice, nor do they maintain their weapons. And yet you think that giving these yahoos weapons will help.

We don't allow people to drive motor vehicles until they can pass a test. These people are obliged to be recertified after a number of infractions or once they reach a certain age. This approach doesn't apply to firearms in the USA. I find it incredible that a convicted felon, or the mentally ill can easily purchase a firearm in the USA and that there are minimal requirements in respect to showing that one knows how to handle a firearm.

If you consider that anti American so be it. I call it responsible gun ownership.

[beechguy]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

30,000 people in the USA are killed each year from gun violence alone. That is more than all other developed nations in the world combined!! You don't see this as a problem that might need to be addressed?

Yet if one person got killed in the US by an act of islamic terrorism the panic would be enormous, as it always is.

The fear mongering in the US is second to none unless it involves their own citizens killing each other with guns.

You conveniently omitted the fact, that about 20,000 of the 30,000 were self inflicted. I think if there wasn't a fire arm, many would simply have chosen another method.

[HooHaa]

Somebody was shot and wounded with a gun in US! I am shocked and speechless (nearly) how something like this could possibly happen.

These ignorant anti-gun morons only ever come out of the woodwork when someone gets shot in America.

30 people gunned down on a beach in Tunisia - not one peep out of the anti-gun fascists about Tunisia's gun laws. Certainly, lots of "Let's not get carried away with Islamaphobia" is mentioned. But no one even realized a single person lawfully carrying a gun on the beach at that time could have stopped this shooter early and saved dozens of lives.

The fact is, the anti-gun nutters are clearly racist.

Only when the shooter is white do we hear this guns are evil propoganda BS.

Muslim shooter, silence

Black shooter, silence.

Shooting occuring outside of the US, silence.

The only people opposed to Americans lawfully owning guns, are anti-American racists.

I must congratulate you on what must be the most spurious arguments I have read on the topic. It is not easy to fit a US/Tunisia parallel and anti white racism into a single post. well done, I'm still laughing.