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SCB denies discrimination in university recruitment
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The Siam Commercial Bank (SCB) Tuesday said the bank had sent letters to all 40 Rajabhat Universities and is visiting those institutes to clarify its policy of recruitment and insist that the banks are open for new graduates from all universities.

The move stemmed from previous news that SCB's job advertisement had reportedly indicated a desire to get applicants only from 14 leading universities on a given name list.

This had drawn criticism and strong reaction including a threat from 40 Rajabhat Universities to revoke all transactions with SCB.

The bank dismissed the reports, which spread from social media, as incorrect, while also urgently clarifying the matter to the public and Rajabhat Universities.

Phanporn Kongyingyong, head of SCB's retail segment, affirmed that, each year, SCB recruited 2,000-3,000 new employees, of whom several hundred were graduates from Rajabhat Universities.

Also, many SCB executives were alumni of Rajabhat Universities, she added. Each educational institution produced quality graduates for the labour market and the bank had a role in choosing qualified graduates, Phanporn said. Rajabhat Universities is an important client for SCB and the bank has branches and ATM machines at those universities for customers, she added.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/SCB-denies-discrimination-in-university-recruitmen-30263441.html

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-- The Nation 2015-06-30

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I don't think anyone would be surprised by SCB being discriminatory...

Having said that, given the labour market here, i would presume they would cast their net far and wide to receive applications from all universities.

Even if they are discriminatory, why bother to advertise it.

How is the SCB unusual fire incident investigation coming along anyway?

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Are the quality of grads similar from all the universities?

If these institutions can give an honest "Yes", discrimination is not justified.

Or else, shut your gaps...

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Hiso bank needs to think a little before engaging in this kind of stupidity, otherwise they might get a very serious backlash from customers...and it would be well deserved

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Are the quality of grads similar from all the universities?

If these institutions can give an honest "Yes", discrimination is not justified.

Or else, shut your gaps...

I don't know and neither do you or the university, so how about an application process.....

I know and have seen employed many a student from a top university who would struggle to tie their own shoe laces.

What i do know from 10 years of employing people here is that often the lower ranked students far outstrip their alleged better contemporaries through hard work and an attitude which does not mean everything is theirs on a plate.

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This is not just a Thailand problem.Employers in the UK have been criticised for only recruiting from the top ranked universities (Russell Group).One suggestion has been that interviewing committees should not be provided with knowledge, at least initially, of applicants' educational background.Tests including those of a psychometric nature would focus on inherent intelligence and commitment.It seems important in Thailand given the hopelessly unequal nature of society that effort be made to recruit the most talented from all classes.Actually although such a process would be seen as a pain in the neck by most employers it would actually have outcomes that work to shareholders interests.

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This is not just a Thailand problem.Employers in the UK have been criticised for only recruiting from the top ranked universities (Russell Group).One suggestion has been that interviewing committees should not be provided with knowledge, at least initially, of applicants' educational background.Tests including those of a psychometric nature would focus on inherent intelligence and commitment.It seems important in Thailand given the hopelessly unequal nature of society that effort be made to recruit the most talented from all classes.Actually although such a process would be seen as a pain in the neck by most employers it would actually have outcomes that work to shareholders interests.

Yes yes we know PC bloody do gooders, but lets get back to the real topic at hand and discuss the real issues

discrimination

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PC bloody do gooders

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Soulpeel mate after looking at that first photo and being unable to resist some smutty schoolboy comment I just made a depoist in my wank bank.

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Are the quality of grads similar from all the universities?

If these institutions can give an honest "Yes", discrimination is not justified.

Or else, shut your gaps...

Your logic is flawed. There are always differences in the quality of graduates from all of the universities. However, that in itself cannot be a basis for the exclusion of one university. Some people graduate at the top of his/her class, while others graduate at the bottom. Who would you rather have as your physician, someone who was the last of his med school class at Mahidol or someone at the top of his/her class at Khon Kaen? There is a point of diminishing returns, a point where the differences are insignificant.

What is shocking here, is that the banks only higher university graduates for teller positions. These junior positions are awful. Poor working conditions, long hours, no chance to have a walk, lengthy sitting, closed up in crowded rooms with bad air, artificial light, poor wages and limited chance for advancement.

I used to push my friend to get a job at the bank. It's a staring point . You move up if you work hard I said. Boy, was I wrong. Thai banks like most Thai employers are not beacons of equitable employment practices. Ever wonder what happens to the women once they reach age 40? Ever wonder why so few females are hired for management positions, only clerical jobs?

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Soulpeel mate after looking at that first photo and being unable to resist some smutty schoolboy comment I just made a depoist in my wank bank.

per Jayboys comment and opinion

unequal nature of society that effort be made to recruit the most talented from all classes.

Per the photographic evidence I do believe SCB does recruit the most talented, the young lady in the photo seems amply able to manage her assets superbly and one expects if you invested properly with her you would get mutually agreeable and beneficial ROI, but one would need to very careful not to blow those returns too quickly and ones build up slowly to a large sustainable deposit on a regular basis....

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My SCB Secure Credit Card WAS costing me twice the reserve funds to own (200000b held in reserve for 100000b credit) and Bangkok Bank offered the same rates with only holding 1 for 1 (100000b for 100000b credit) I dumped then like a hot potato. SCB are NOT easy to deal with for many simple tasks and the fees are always higher (bank letter for visa). Last year the clerk argued and would not give a amount statement signed from the bank because I did not have 800000b in the bank. After explaining 3 times that was not a requirement for me since I had a income letter from my Embassy to support the requirement for Immigration I finally had to request a supervisor to issue the letter (cost 200b). Bkk Bank (100b) no questions. The Wife said her former University is looking into dropping SCB also......... reap what you throw...........???? wai.gifcoffee1.gif

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Are the quality of grads similar from all the universities?

If these institutions can give an honest "Yes", discrimination is not justified.

Or else, shut your gaps...

Your logic is flawed. There are always differences in the quality of graduates from all of the universities. However, that in itself cannot be a basis for the exclusion of one university. Some people graduate at the top of his/her class, while others graduate at the bottom. Who would you rather have as your physician, someone who was the last of his med school class at Mahidol or someone at the top of his/her class at Khon Kaen? There is a point of diminishing returns, a point where the differences are insignificant.

What is shocking here, is that the banks only higher university graduates for teller positions. These junior positions are awful. Poor working conditions, long hours, no chance to have a walk, lengthy sitting, closed up in crowded rooms with bad air, artificial light, poor wages and limited chance for advancement.

I used to push my friend to get a job at the bank. It's a staring point . You move up if you work hard I said. Boy, was I wrong. Thai banks like most Thai employers are not beacons of equitable employment practices. Ever wonder what happens to the women once they reach age 40? Ever wonder why so few females are hired for management positions, only clerical jobs?

In any event, what does 'quality of graduates' mean.

One factor used will probably be GPA. But It's well proven, decades ago, that GPA is not an indicator of one-the-job performance nor is it an indicator of teamwork, natural analytical skills, natural impact and influence, organization savvy, and a lot more, also some high GPA achievers can't apply their knowledge on the job and are habitually late for work, forget important things, etc. And high GPA is not an indictor of honesty.

Back to the drawing board.

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Are the quality of grads similar from all the universities?

If these institutions can give an honest "Yes", discrimination is not justified.

Or else, shut your gaps...

Your logic is flawed. There are always differences in the quality of graduates from all of the universities. However, that in itself cannot be a basis for the exclusion of one university. Some people graduate at the top of his/her class, while others graduate at the bottom. Who would you rather have as your physician, someone who was the last of his med school class at Mahidol or someone at the top of his/her class at Khon Kaen? There is a point of diminishing returns, a point where the differences are insignificant.

What is shocking here, is that the banks only higher university graduates for teller positions. These junior positions are awful. Poor working conditions, long hours, no chance to have a walk, lengthy sitting, closed up in crowded rooms with bad air, artificial light, poor wages and limited chance for advancement.

I used to push my friend to get a job at the bank. It's a staring point . You move up if you work hard I said. Boy, was I wrong. Thai banks like most Thai employers are not beacons of equitable employment practices. Ever wonder what happens to the women once they reach age 40? Ever wonder why so few females are hired for management positions, only clerical jobs?

A poorer quality university would have its top 20% of grads eclipsing the bottom 20% of a top university.

But a large corporation is only interested in employing from the top 20% of grads of the top universities. Thus, the discrimination.

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Soulpeel mate after looking at that first photo and being unable to resist some smutty schoolboy comment I just made a depoist in my wank bank.

per Jayboys comment and opinion

unequal nature of society that effort be made to recruit the most talented from all classes.

Per the photographic evidence I do believe SCB does recruit the most talented, the young lady in the photo seems amply able to manage her assets superbly and one expects if you invested properly with her you would get mutually agreeable and beneficial ROI, but one would need to very careful not to blow those returns too quickly and ones build up slowly to a large sustainable deposit on a regular basis....

And she has no shoelaces to tie....

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Soulpeel mate after looking at that first photo and being unable to resist some smutty schoolboy comment I just made a depoist in my wank bank.

Yeah, looks like your typing finger is still shaking.

Posted

Are the quality of grads similar from all the universities?

If these institutions can give an honest "Yes", discrimination is not justified.

Or else, shut your gaps...

Your logic is flawed. There are always differences in the quality of graduates from all of the universities. However, that in itself cannot be a basis for the exclusion of one university. Some people graduate at the top of his/her class, while others graduate at the bottom. Who would you rather have as your physician, someone who was the last of his med school class at Mahidol or someone at the top of his/her class at Khon Kaen? There is a point of diminishing returns, a point where the differences are insignificant.

What is shocking here, is that the banks only higher university graduates for teller positions. These junior positions are awful. Poor working conditions, long hours, no chance to have a walk, lengthy sitting, closed up in crowded rooms with bad air, artificial light, poor wages and limited chance for advancement.

I used to push my friend to get a job at the bank. It's a staring point . You move up if you work hard I said. Boy, was I wrong. Thai banks like most Thai employers are not beacons of equitable employment practices. Ever wonder what happens to the women once they reach age 40? Ever wonder why so few females are hired for management positions, only clerical jobs?

A poorer quality university would have its top 20% of grads eclipsing the bottom 20% of a top university.

But a large corporation is only interested in employing from the top 20% of grads of the top universities. Thus, the discrimination.

Better idea than this top and bottom 20% rubbish

best looking, longest legs in a short skirt , nicest breasts in those purple work shirts and all discrimination is gone thumbsup.gif

Posted

Are the quality of grads similar from all the universities?

If these institutions can give an honest "Yes", discrimination is not justified.

Or else, shut your gaps...

Your logic is flawed. There are always differences in the quality of graduates from all of the universities. However, that in itself cannot be a basis for the exclusion of one university. Some people graduate at the top of his/her class, while others graduate at the bottom. Who would you rather have as your physician, someone who was the last of his med school class at Mahidol or someone at the top of his/her class at Khon Kaen? There is a point of diminishing returns, a point where the differences are insignificant.

What is shocking here, is that the banks only higher university graduates for teller positions. These junior positions are awful. Poor working conditions, long hours, no chance to have a walk, lengthy sitting, closed up in crowded rooms with bad air, artificial light, poor wages and limited chance for advancement.

I used to push my friend to get a job at the bank. It's a staring point . You move up if you work hard I said. Boy, was I wrong. Thai banks like most Thai employers are not beacons of equitable employment practices. Ever wonder what happens to the women once they reach age 40? Ever wonder why so few females are hired for management positions, only clerical jobs?

A poorer quality university would have its top 20% of grads eclipsing the bottom 20% of a top university.

But a large corporation is only interested in employing from the top 20% of grads of the top universities. Thus, the discrimination.

Better idea than this top and bottom 20% rubbish

best looking, longest legs in a short skirt , nicest breasts in those purple work shirts and all discrimination is gone thumbsup.gif

Yes, and I know where you would do your recruiting should you be the HR director, and definitely not in any university...lol

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sick leftist ideas which all end up with quotas for blacks, females, disabled, homosexuals, latinos, retards etc.

not the equality of possibilities but the equality of results.

one of the reasons why Asia is overcoming West now - the lack of this kind of regulation. that's why West is desperately trying to impose them on the East (by propaganda, of course).

the employer has a right to choose staff with a qualification needed. If you want to work in SCB - go to Thammasat and others. if you study in crappy uni - go to work in mom's shop or start your own business. This is what's called "competition". As simple as that.

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Are the quality of grads similar from all the universities?

If these institutions can give an honest "Yes", discrimination is not justified.

Or else, shut your gaps...

Your logic is flawed. There are always differences in the quality of graduates from all of the universities. However, that in itself cannot be a basis for the exclusion of one university. Some people graduate at the top of his/her class, while others graduate at the bottom. Who would you rather have as your physician, someone who was the last of his med school class at Mahidol or someone at the top of his/her class at Khon Kaen? There is a point of diminishing returns, a point where the differences are insignificant.

What is shocking here, is that the banks only higher university graduates for teller positions. These junior positions are awful. Poor working conditions, long hours, no chance to have a walk, lengthy sitting, closed up in crowded rooms with bad air, artificial light, poor wages and limited chance for advancement.

I used to push my friend to get a job at the bank. It's a staring point . You move up if you work hard I said. Boy, was I wrong. Thai banks like most Thai employers are not beacons of equitable employment practices. Ever wonder what happens to the women once they reach age 40? Ever wonder why so few females are hired for management positions, only clerical jobs?

A poorer quality university would have its top 20% of grads eclipsing the bottom 20% of a top university.

But a large corporation is only interested in employing from the top 20% of grads of the top universities. Thus, the discrimination.

Better idea than this top and bottom 20% rubbish

best looking, longest legs in a short skirt , nicest breasts in those purple work shirts and all discrimination is gone thumbsup.gif

Yes, and I know where you would do your recruiting should you be the HR director, and definitely not in any university...lol

One suspects that's why they keep me in a technical position here and keep me the hell away from. HR and recruitment LOL

Not that it matters anyway, as the average graduate coming of Uni anywhere in the world these days, irrespective of what they look like are typically dumb <deleted> anyway and the average Good looking BG has better and more extensive business savvy LOL

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sick leftist ideas which all end up with quotas for blacks, females, disabled, homosexuals, latinos, retards etc.

not the equality of possibilities but the equality of results.

one of the reasons why Asia is overcoming West now - the lack of this kind of regulation. that's why West is desperately trying to impose them on the East (by propaganda, of course).

the employer has a right to choose staff with a qualification needed. If you want to work in SCB - go to Thammasat and others. if you study in crappy uni - go to work in mom's shop or start your own business. This is what's called "competition". As simple as that.

Didnt miss a goose step there did you ? coffee1.gif

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