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Thailand to retain lead exporter of rice this year

BANGKOK: -- Thai Rice Exporters Association says Thailand will continue to be the lead exporter of rice in the world market although it suffered drought problem.

The association said Thailand’s standing as the leading exporter of rice remains uncontested.
It said figures for the first half of the year showed total rice exports at 4.46 million tons, which although is a drop of around 4.7%, still generated 72 billion baht in income.

The other major players with regard to rice exports are India, Vietnam, Pakistan followed by the US.

The association expects that rice export figures for July should show an increase of between 700,000 – 800,000 tons brought on by customers supply fears as a result of the recent drought problem in the country.

This in conjunction with the lower value of the baht will make Thailand’s rice prices even more competitive, it said.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/thailand-to-retain-lead-exporter-of-rice-this-year

-- Thai PBS 2015-08-01

[Mango Bob]

So exports overall are down for the year but rice exports still #1. I wonder if this is true or just some minister trying to keep his job.

[djjamie]

It is certainly hard not be be number one when you have mountains of rice rotting away in the warehouses that are being released to the market.

I am sure had this surplus not been there it may be another story considering this drought.

[rubl]

Shows that without (much) government involvement the market can cope nicely although helped by a weaker Baht.

[Srikcir]

Looks like the sale of 1 million tons of rice to China at above market prices helped boost revenues.

Unless of course the windfall profits are recycled back to China in other undisclosed deals like maybe purchase of submarines.

[clockman]

As there is no transparency, in any sector. It is just words!

[rubl]

Looks like the sale of 1 million tons of rice to China at above market prices helped boost revenues.

Unless of course the windfall profits are recycled back to China in other undisclosed deals like maybe purchase of submarines.

I'm somewhat puzzled how the possible or alleged purchase of submarines could 'deboost' revenue on the sale of rice.

[Anthony5]

Looks like the sale of 1 million tons of rice to China at above market prices helped boost revenues.

Unless of course the windfall profits are recycled back to China in other undisclosed deals like maybe purchase of submarines.

Why would China, or any other country in the world for that matter, pay above market price for rice?

[Guest]

Looks like the sale of 1 million tons of rice to China at above market prices helped boost revenues.

Unless of course the windfall profits are recycled back to China in other undisclosed deals like maybe purchase of submarines.

I'm somewhat puzzled how the possible or alleged purchase of submarines could 'deboost' revenue on the sale of rice.

I am somewhat puzzled that after a staggering 19,975 postings you do not understand how Thai Visa works.

You find an ax to grind, and regardless of the topic, find a way to connect the dots .. no matter how weak.

Imagine an article about anything that a man can easily carry .. a carton of cigarettes, a loaf of bread, a box of candles .. anything really ...

That man and that parcel could employ a tuk tuk to get home.

Enter the Tuk Tuk mafia ... and the word "Thainess" .. and we are off the races!

Sriker has a problem with Thailand having submarines, despite the fact this relatively small country ranks 37th ( 3,219 KM) of coastline. But I am confident people like Striker most likely has a problem with anything done in Thailand.

So yes, you nailed it .. I can not imagine a bigger stretch than the historic #1 rice exporter in the world retaining that title, and submarines.

Edited August 1, 2015 by Guest

[jerojero]

The hub of rice. Face gained in a world who gives way little s*it about Thai "face". Pompousness, pure and simple.

[473geo]

It is certainly hard not be be number one when you have mountains of rice rotting away in the warehouses that are being released to the market.

I am sure had this surplus not been there it may be another story considering this drought.

Well it would appear the marketing is quite exceptional - not many would carry the ability to retain the number one rice exporting position by selling rotting rice!!!

[473geo]

Looks like the sale of 1 million tons of rice to China at above market prices helped boost revenues.

Unless of course the windfall profits are recycled back to China in other undisclosed deals like maybe purchase of submarines.

I'm somewhat puzzled how the possible or alleged purchase of submarines could 'deboost' revenue on the sale of rice.

I am somewhat puzzled that after a staggering 19,975 postings you do not understand how Thai Visa works.

You find an ax to grind, and regardless of the topic, find a way to connect the dots .. no matter how weak.

Imagine an article about anything that a man can easily carry .. a carton of cigarettes, a loaf of bread, a box of candles .. anything really ...

That man and that parcel could employ a tuk tuk to get home.

Enter the Tuk Tuk mafia ... and the word "Thainess" .. and we are off the races!

Sriker has a problem with Thailand having submarines, despite the fact this relatively small country ranks 37th ( 3,219 KM) of coastline. But I am confident people like Striker most likely has a problem with anything done in Thailand.

So yes, you nailed it .. I can not imagine a bigger stretch than the historic #1 rice exporter in the world retaining that title, and submarines.

Rather surprised you have never heard of MOU or trade agreements?

Thai rice is exceptionally good of course, and stands on its own merit, in fact I supported the Thai rice growers just today by buying a 5kg pack so not surprised China is buying quality product

[473geo]

Shows that without (much) government involvement the market can cope nicely although helped by a weaker Baht.

Also by a much lower purchasing price from the producer - which in turn has resulted in the Prime minister insisting the government becomes heavily involved, that Thailand does not leap into the number one position for farmers debt and payment default resulting in loss of land.

Fortunate indeed the Prime minister does not have his head in the sand along with quite a few on this Forum!

[Guest]

Looks like the sale of 1 million tons of rice to China at above market prices helped boost revenues.

Unless of course the windfall profits are recycled back to China in other undisclosed deals like maybe purchase of submarines.

I'm somewhat puzzled how the possible or alleged purchase of submarines could 'deboost' revenue on the sale of rice.

I am somewhat puzzled that after a staggering 19,975 postings you do not understand how Thai Visa works.

You find an ax to grind, and regardless of the topic, find a way to connect the dots .. no matter how weak.

Imagine an article about anything that a man can easily carry .. a carton of cigarettes, a loaf of bread, a box of candles .. anything really ...

That man and that parcel could employ a tuk tuk to get home.

Enter the Tuk Tuk mafia ... and the word "Thainess" .. and we are off the races!

Sriker has a problem with Thailand having submarines, despite the fact this relatively small country ranks 37th ( 3,219 KM) of coastline. But I am confident people like Striker most likely has a problem with anything done in Thailand.

So yes, you nailed it .. I can not imagine a bigger stretch than the historic #1 rice exporter in the world retaining that title, and submarines.

Rather surprised you have never heard of MOU or trade agreements?

Thai rice is exceptionally good of course, and stands on its own merit, in fact I supported the Thai rice growers just today by buying a 5kg pack so not surprised China is buying quality product

OK, so, here we have it.

Since you have not said anything about trade agreements, and MOU between two nations (?) and lastly .. I now leave it to you to produce some evidence that China .. CHINA .. the county .. paid "above market prices."

Oh my, that is SO Chinese! They LOVE to offer above market prices! Well known for that! 555

(1) When did the nation of China sign an MOU that they would pay above market prices for rice, in exchange for the purchase of two submarines?

... or is that just a board room meeting .. with the voices in your head?

Happy to know that the rice crisis is averted! You bought 5 Kilos!

Oh god, you just can not make this stuff up!

Edited August 2, 2015 by Guest

[Thai at Heart]

And the farmers are still in poverty.....

[ratcatcher]

And the farmers are still in poverty.....

The farmers are still in poverty, God's in his heaven and all 's well with the

world.

[Thai at Heart]

And the farmers are still in poverty.....

The farmers are still in poverty, God's in his heaven and all 's well with the

world.

Indeed. All going to the long term plan. Did u know that until the 80s, rice exporters had to pay a special tax?

[473geo]

I am somewhat puzzled that after a staggering 19,975 postings you do not understand how Thai Visa works.

You find an ax to grind, and regardless of the topic, find a way to connect the dots .. no matter how weak.

Imagine an article about anything that a man can easily carry .. a carton of cigarettes, a loaf of bread, a box of candles .. anything really ...

That man and that parcel could employ a tuk tuk to get home.

Enter the Tuk Tuk mafia ... and the word "Thainess" .. and we are off the races!

Sriker has a problem with Thailand having submarines, despite the fact this relatively small country ranks 37th ( 3,219 KM) of coastline. But I am confident people like Striker most likely has a problem with anything done in Thailand.

So yes, you nailed it .. I can not imagine a bigger stretch than the historic #1 rice exporter in the world retaining that title, and submarines.

Rather surprised you have never heard of MOU or trade agreements?

Thai rice is exceptionally good of course, and stands on its own merit, in fact I supported the Thai rice growers just today by buying a 5kg pack so not surprised China is buying quality product

OK, so, here we have it.

Since you have not said anything about trade agreements, and MOU between two nations (?) and lastly .. I now leave it to you to produce some evidence that China .. CHINA .. the county .. paid "above market prices."

Oh my, that is SO Chinese! They LOVE to offer above market prices! Well known for that! 555

(1) When did the nation of China sign an MOU that they would pay above market prices for rice, in exchange for the purchase of two submarines?

... or is that just a board room meeting .. with the voices in your head?

Happy to know that the rice crisis is averted! You bought 5 Kilos!

Oh god, you just can not make this stuff up!

" I can not imagine a bigger stretch than the historic #1 rice exporter in the world retaining that title, and submarines"

(1) When did the nation of China sign an MOU that they would pay above market prices for rice, in exchange for the purchase of two submarines?

[rubl]

And the farmers are still in poverty.....

The farmers are still in poverty, God's in his heaven and all 's well with the

world.

Indeed. All going to the long term plan. Did u know that until the 80s, rice exporters had to pay a special tax?

More interesting would be some statistics on rice acreage, yield, location, farmers involved and percentage of poor/medium/rich farmers. all this over the last 30 years.

[Thai at Heart]

And the farmers are still in poverty.....

The farmers are still in poverty, God's in his heaven and all 's well with the

world.

Indeed. All going to the long term plan. Did u know that until the 80s, rice exporters had to pay a special tax?

More interesting would be some statistics on rice acreage, yield, location, farmers involved and percentage of poor/medium/rich farmers. all this over the last 30 years.

Well, I have some data up until about 10 years ago. Yields were poorest in Isaan, best in the central plains. Farmers needed at least 8 raised to be profitable.

Basically, farmers have been encouraged to grow something for export that the exporters know will not provide a living income for the farmers. The farmers should grow enough to feed the country and barely any more for export.

Some areas should stop production all together.

[Down the rabbit hole]

Well, I have some data up until about 10 years ago. Yields were poorest in Isaan, best in the central plains. Farmers needed at least 8 raised to be profitable.

Basically, farmers have been encouraged to grow something for export that the exporters know will not provide a living income for the farmers. The farmers should grow enough to feed the country and barely any more for export.

Some areas should stop production all together.

Provides a good living for the millers and the exporters though. Which is absolutely the whole point. Keep 'em poor, keep 'em stupid. That way you can rip them off all the easier.

[Shawn0001]

More interesting would be some statistics on rice acreage, yield, location, farmers involved and percentage of poor/medium/rich farmers. all this over the last 30 years.

Well, I have some data up until about 10 years ago. Yields were poorest in Isaan, best in the central plains. Farmers needed at least 8 raised to be profitable.

Basically, farmers have been encouraged to grow something for export that the exporters know will not provide a living income for the farmers. The farmers should grow enough to feed the country and barely any more for export.

Some areas should stop production all together.

Well, recently farmers have been encouraged to grow something else, in the central plains, hang on!?!

[Thai at Heart]

More interesting would be some statistics on rice acreage, yield, location, farmers involved and percentage of poor/medium/rich farmers. all this over the last 30 years.

Well, I have some data up until about 10 years ago. Yields were poorest in Isaan, best in the central plains. Farmers needed at least 8 raised to be profitable.

Basically, farmers have been encouraged to grow something for export that the exporters know will not provide a living income for the farmers. The farmers should grow enough to feed the country and barely any more for export.

Some areas should stop production all together.

Well, recently farmers have been encouraged to grow something else, in the central plains, hang on!?!

Ironically, the easiest place to grow is the central plains. Problem is they grow the most generic type of rice with the lowest sale price. Isaan has hom Mali but little structured irrigation.

[Shawn0001]

More interesting would be some statistics on rice acreage, yield, location, farmers involved and percentage of poor/medium/rich farmers. all this over the last 30 years.

Well, I have some data up until about 10 years ago. Yields were poorest in Isaan, best in the central plains. Farmers needed at least 8 raised to be profitable.

Basically, farmers have been encouraged to grow something for export that the exporters know will not provide a living income for the farmers. The farmers should grow enough to feed the country and barely any more for export.

Some areas should stop production all together.

Well, recently farmers have been encouraged to grow something else, in the central plains, hang on!?!

Ironically, the easiest place to grow is the central plains. Problem is they grow the most generic type of rice with the lowest sale price. Isaan has hom Mali but little structured irrigation.

Isn't Jasmin an arid grown rice though? Surely they couldn't grow that in the wet central plains but is fine without the irrigation in Isaan?

[Thai at Heart]

More interesting would be some statistics on rice acreage, yield, location, farmers involved and percentage of poor/medium/rich farmers. all this over the last 30 years.

Well, I have some data up until about 10 years ago. Yields were poorest in Isaan, best in the central plains. Farmers needed at least 8 raised to be profitable.

Basically, farmers have been encouraged to grow something for export that the exporters know will not provide a living income for the farmers. The farmers should grow enough to feed the country and barely any more for export.

Some areas should stop production all together.

Well, recently farmers have been encouraged to grow something else, in the central plains, hang on!?!

Ironically, the easiest place to grow is the central plains. Problem is they grow the most generic type of rice with the lowest sale price. Isaan has hom Mali but little structured irrigation.

Isn't Jasmin an arid grown rice though? Surely they couldn't grow that in the wet central plains but is fine without the irrigation in Isaan?

It needs a minimum amount. Just go and look at the areas in Isaan with paddy and zero irrigation. Huge tracts. They can sell every kilo of hom Mali but a limited area of production.