davidst01 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 We installed some security bars on a few of the windows for peace of mind. We are now moving out of the house next week. Does anyone know how to get the bars off the windows. Ive never seen a bolt like that before. Is there going to be a huge hole? I can presumably put putty over it and paint? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachproperty Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) You can always try a "vice grip" Available at most DIY stores Edited August 3, 2015 by beachproperty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The whole point of those bolts is that they cannot be easily removed. Vice grips as beachproperty suggested may work, otherwise it's time to get the angle-grinder out. Once the bolts are out you can fill and paint the holes. BUT Why remove the bars, they are unlikely to fit on a new property? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit_Doggie Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why not try to come to some agreement of payment lol to be left in place with owner but I reckon that is more impossible than me landing on the moon but that's a possible option, anyway gl with the angle grinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Suggest you tell the owner that you installed them as a property upgrade. Furthermore, because you hold him/her in such high esteem you won't charge for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technologybytes Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Basically they are easy to remove but it will make some noise, which is the whole point of rounding the nuts like that. You can fill the holes, and touch up the paint, but you will be left with a pile of bars that probably won't fit your next house so I'd just leave them there. Actually I hate bars on windows, they are ugly and dangerous in the event of a fire. I removed nearly all the bars on our house, leaving just the upstairs front that's visible from the road. At least yours are on the outside and not the inside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jossthaifarang Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Vice grip is probably the best if you really want to go to the trouble, in all farness as mentioned by Haydude, its a property upgrade so they cant charge you as if you have damaged anything. If you still think they need to come off and the vice grips don't work try a Hacksaw or miniature hacksaw, cut a groove then take them out with a screw driver. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jossthaifarang Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Should do it.. Edited August 4, 2015 by jossthaifarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKC Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Suggest you tell the owner that you installed them as a property upgrade. Furthermore, because you hold him/her in such high esteem you won't charge for them. And you might even get your deposit back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maderaroja Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I made sure that my lease agreement states that all upgrades belong to me and may be removed on vacating the property. An additional clause states that, if the property owner wants to keep the upgrade(s), he will pay me the original price to install them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maderaroja Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If you really want them off, hire a local iron monger to remove them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This isnt going to end well........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygood Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 just leave them and ur renter will see what a safe neighborhood it is where i live, houses 10 - 30 million, no bars on any of them but we have camera's & security guards loooooooooooooooool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmansions Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I am a landlord and put these on my houses as standard but if you added them without my consent you would lose your deposit even with my consent I would be checking the removal work with a fine tooth co be, however I would be willing to purchase them off you if they are quality. T hoses bolts on the widows are serious merchandise designed to keep thieves out so will make a mess when removed. Approach landlord with a deal or risk loss of deposit and possible criminal damage charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yme Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 They're called a fixture and most lease agreements don't allow for the removal of fixtures. They become part of the property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 You can cut the head off using a cutting disk on a drummel, then use an "easy out" to remove the bolt. The bolts are designed so thieves can't take the bars out without making a LOT of noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidst01 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 I am a landlord and put these on my houses as standard but if you added them without my consent you would lose your deposit even with my consent I would be checking the removal work with a fine tooth co be, however I would be willing to purchase them off you if they are quality. T hoses bolts on the widows are serious merchandise designed to keep thieves out so will make a mess when removed. Approach landlord with a deal or risk loss of deposit and possible criminal damage charges pjmansions is from a nanny state western country ha ha. criminal charges for bars on windows... some members on this forum crack me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 An off topic / spelling police post has been removed. It matters not a jot whether we use UK or US (or even Indian) English spellings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I am a landlord and put these on my houses as standard but if you added them without my consent you would lose your deposit even with my consent I would be checking the removal work with a fine tooth co be, however I would be willing to purchase them off you if they are quality. T hoses bolts on the widows are serious merchandise designed to keep thieves out so will make a mess when removed. Approach landlord with a deal or risk loss of deposit and possible criminal damage charges pjmansions is from a nanny state western country ha ha. criminal charges for bars on windows... some members on this forum crack me up There are documented cases of land lords bringing criminal damage charges against tenants in Thailand and said tenants then being refused exit from Thailand until the case was finalised in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alco Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I will try cutting a groove in the middle of the head and try to turn with a flat head screw driver as earlier suggested. If that fails, you can weld a piece of rod or maybe a 3" nail on top of the bolt head to form a "T" with the bolt, just enough for a wrench to grip and turn. I will get someone to do it if I don't have a welding machine. If that works, you will be left only with a hole you can cover with putty. If you just cut the head off, you will still be left with and headless bolt you have to deal with. And you might damage the bars in the process which you want to reuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer666 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 You don't need vice grips, grind ( or file) a flat spot on opposing sides of the stud and use an adjustable spanner . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm still confused as to why one would want to remove something which a. Is tailored to a specific building, b. Is deliberately designed to be non-removable and c. Will need fairly significant tidying once removed. Seems like an awful lot of effort for little return. Talk to the landlord (you did get permission didn't you) and leave in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmansions Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 in response to Davidsto1 remarks, DeDefinition of Criminal Damage A person is guilty of an offence if without lawful excuse he destroys or damages property belonging to another or is reckless as to whether any such property would be destroyed or damaged shall be guilty of an offence Mock all you like David but this would be a slam dunk case Did the building have holes in the walls when you rented it .. no Did you drill holes in the wall.. Yes Did you have owners consent... no Did you gave a lawful excuse.. no Case done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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