Allgeier Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 In this case it is a pig Hot Water, about 70 Degree burning After 2 hours finish The picture are taken some month ago. Today there is a roof over ist and the wall also finised.
steven100 Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Do you mean Slaughtering ? and what's your point ??
Allgeier Posted August 13, 2015 Author Posted August 13, 2015 Do you mean Slaughtering ? and what's your point ?? Yes, i mean Slaughtering. Maybe a moderator can fix this? What is the Point? Farming is also slaughtering. Nothing more. Or we have already a Thread about this? Then move it there.
pigeonjake Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Do you mean Slaughtering ? and what's your point ?? the point is,, this is what farmings about,, not like some who think the meat you they eat comes from tesco, fair play to the guy, i dont do it myself i pay a guy to come collect the pig, he does the bussines and brings it back in 2 halfs with the liver and charges me 500bht,
steven100 Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Do you mean Slaughtering ? and what's your point ?? the point is,, this is what farmings about,, not like some who think the meat you they eat comes from tesco, fair play to the guy, i dont do it myself i pay a guy to come collect the pig, he does the bussines and brings it back in 2 halfs with the liver and charges me 500bht, agree .. it can be alot easier and more convenient to have the cut up done by a butcher, especially if you want sausages made also. In Australia, we used to shoot a steer, winch him up over a tree limb with the 'trusty old LR' and go to work, then take him back and hang him in the meat house for a couple of days before cutting up ... ohh I miss those days !! a few beers were always had during the work ...
Allgeier Posted August 13, 2015 Author Posted August 13, 2015 I think many people lost the contact about what means to eat meat. Where the meat come from or where the milk come from. To slaughter a animal means to stop his Life. But there live for this, and when there have befor a good life. I think i can go sleep without headache. pigeonjake: 500 bath is not so bad for 3 hour of work.
RedBullHorn Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) When I just started farming Clarias catfish i ask an elder (86 year old) who came to my farm during harvest "Is it sinful to raise them and to be slaughtered ?" Her reply then was : "Return the favour ! Raised them already...from fingerlings to maturity. They got good food everyday. When the time comes, return the favour and feed us..." (She's 95 now) Edited August 13, 2015 by RedBullHorn
kickstart Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 When I just started farming Clarias catfish i ask an elder (86 year old) who came to my farm during harvest "Is it sinful to raise them and to be slaughtered ?" Her reply then was : "Return the favour ! Raised them already...from fingerlings to maturity. They got good food everyday. When the time comes, return the favour and feed us..." (She's 95 now) RBH You may know this, I know a few dairy farmers who will not eat beef ,they say "This cow has provided us with a living, put rice on the table , when we sell her why should we eat her " I think it is more Buddhist thinking , in some way,s they have a point.
Suradit69 Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Do you mean Slaughtering ? and what's your point ?? the point is,, this is what farmings about,, not like some who think the meat you they eat comes from tesco, fair play to the guy, i dont do it myself i pay a guy to come collect the pig, he does the bussines and brings it back in 2 halfs with the liver and charges me 500bht, "not like some who think the meat you they eat comes from tesco," I doubt anyone (outside your imagination) would not realize where meat comes from. "this is what farmings about" It doesn't look like what farming or slaughtering is about ... more like butchering. The farming and slaughtering aspect took place before the butchering.
Cashboy Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Did you kill the animal yourself and if so how?
djayz Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Do you mean Slaughtering ? and what's your point ?? the point is,, this is what farmings about,,not like some who think the meat you they eat comes from tesco, fair play to the guy, i dont do it myself i pay a guy to come collect the pig, he does the bussines and brings it back in 2 halfs with the liver and charges me 500bht, "not like some who think the meat you they eat comes from tesco," I doubt anyone (outside your imagination) would not realize where meat comes from. "this is what farmings about" It doesn't look like what farming or slaughtering is about ... more like butchering. The farming and slaughtering aspect took place before the butchering. There are a lot of people, mainly "city folk", who've never seen a farm animal and don't have a clue where milk, let alone meat, comes from.
djayz Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Are you a butcher by trade? Have you slaughtered/butchered before?
pigeonjake Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 my wife wouldnt let me do it if i wanted to, not on our land, if we have a sick or injured piglet i will put them down, i just hit them with the hammer, you draw a line in your mind from ear to eye across its head and that is the point that you hit, 1 hit all over, i do know some do this with there slaughter pigs too,
pigeonjake Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 Do you mean Slaughtering ? and what's your point ?? the point is,, this is what farmings about,, not like some who think the meat you they eat comes from tesco, fair play to the guy, i dont do it myself i pay a guy to come collect the pig, he does the bussines and brings it back in 2 halfs with the liver and charges me 500bht, "not like some who think the meat you they eat comes from tesco," I doubt anyone (outside your imagination) would not realize where meat comes from. "this is what farmings about" It doesn't look like what farming or slaughtering is about ... more like butchering. The farming and slaughtering aspect took place before the butchering. arnt we the cleaver one, now run along back to general toppics theres a good lad
Allgeier Posted August 14, 2015 Author Posted August 14, 2015 Are you a butcher by trade? Have you slaughtered/butchered before? Did you kill the animal yourself and if so how? I learned this profession 30 years ago and worked in some small Slaughterhouse. But here ist everythink a little bit differant. The knocking with the Hammer and also the cutting. OK, this is how there make here. I killed the pig by my self and used a hammer. Today i got somethink else and it make everythink easier. For me and for the pig. Two time i slaughtered here a small buffalo and a cow. But with out of hang it up its in my eye a pain to slaughter a cow. Again, its how there do it here. We have only about 10 pig and sometimes we kill one and my wife sell it on the market. Or a couple of month ago. I slaugtered a sow for a local party. The selling is also not so easy. What you do with the fat and the skin, if you not can sell ist? And on every market the are already butchers who sell pork. Allgeier
cooked Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Double post, sorry Edited August 14, 2015 by cooked
cooked Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 Blimey we make lard from the fat and the skin, healthier than most cooking oils. The skin then gets fried and eaten. After watching the bodge job our neighbour did, we now kill ourselves. Good blow to the head, blade in the heart and then hang it up while having its throat slit. Very quick. They don't use hot water here, nor burn straw or something before removing the hairs. I slit open to remove the insides and leave it to my wife to rescue the liver. I then get drunk. Which seems to be traditional all over the world.
Allgeier Posted August 14, 2015 Author Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) cooked: If i kill every half a year a pig i dont care about the fat or the skin. But if you like to do this every week or more you need a another kalkulation. Its sound easy to hung up quickly a 120 kg Pig. Pigs are very clever animal and in my eyes, ther have the right to be stunned befor somebody cut the throet of them or put the knife in the heart. But everybody can do how there like. And its also differant if you work alone or you have somebody who help you. Edited August 14, 2015 by Allgeier
RedBullHorn Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) When I just started farming Clarias catfish i ask an elder (86 year old) who came to my farm during harvest "Is it sinful to raise them and to be slaughtered ?" Her reply then was : "Return the favour ! Raised them already...from fingerlings to maturity. They got good food everyday. When the time comes, return the favour and feed us..." (She's 95 now) RBH You may know this, I know a few dairy farmers who will not eat beef ,they say "This cow has provided us with a living, put rice on the table , when we sell her why should we eat her " I think it is more Buddhist thinking , in some way,s they have a point. Yes it's true... We don't eat catfish (unless it is on the plate of my host or tasting our produce for quality). We sell them and buy Pla Nin, Tabtim. Edited August 14, 2015 by RedBullHorn
RedBullHorn Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) I eat them offal... nothing is wasted. Liver, heart, kidneys, intestines, stomach, tongue, blood cubes. Ears, tail and hoofs too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig%27s_organ_soup Edited August 14, 2015 by RedBullHorn
cooked Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 cooked: If i kill every half a year a pig i dont care about the fat or the skin. But if you like to do this every week or more you need a another kalkulation. Its sound easy to hung up quickly a 120 kg Pig. Pigs are very clever animal and in my eyes, ther have the right to be stunned befor somebody cut the throet of them or put the knife in the heart. But everybody can do how there like. And its also differant if you work alone or you have somebody who help you. Block and tackle was invented a long time ago.
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