Pet Euthanasia

[Liberty42]

My pet cat (who I took in as a stray about a year ago) has recently been diagnosed with chronic kidney failure. Managing her disease by force feeding, subcutaneous hydration and administering other medications is a huge challenge. Her health is failing rapidly and when I asked my vet about the possibility of euthanizing her when all quality of life is gone, she informed me that, in general, vets in Thailand do not euthanize animals - no matter how much they're suffering. Does anyone know any vets that are willing to euthanize. I can't stand watching my cat suffer.

[isanbirder]

Some vets will do it.

If you tell us where you are, (and put this in the Pets Forum), it is likely that someone will pm you a contact.

[Liberty42]

I live in Ban Phe, Rayong (within easy access to Pattaya or Bangkok if need be). Thanks for your response and I'll post my request in the Pets Forum as well. Not quite ready to do it just yet, but need the peace of mind to know I have the option if and when the time comes..

[giddyup]

I live in Ban Phe, Rayong (within easy access to Pattaya or Bangkok if need be). Thanks for your response and I'll post my request in the Pets Forum as well. Not quite ready to do it just yet, but need the peace of mind to know I have the option if and when the time comes..

I asked a local vet on the dark side, Pattaya about euthanising a very sick dog (a neighbours), he said it wouldn't be a problem. He is Big Vet on Siam Country Club Road, on the left before the traffic lights, the only set of lights on that road.

[connda]

If your pet was a human, euthanasia would be accomplished by withholding water and food, and allowing the dog to die in agony.

[dotpoom]

Sorry about your cat but you have the comfort of knowing that you have provided a good life (and death) for your friend.

Edited August 22, 2015 by dotpoom

[ericjt]

Don't force feed her. She's not eating because her body can't handle it.

If you can't find a vet, check out getting a tank of helium (like for party balloons) and fashion a mask or baggie so she can breath it for a minute or so. She'll go to sleep and won't feel anything. That's what the info on Google says. Some euthanasia proponents recommend it for humans suffering from terminal diseases, too.

Good luck.

[bazza40]

Don't force feed her. She's not eating because her body can't handle it.

If you can't find a vet, check out getting a tank of helium (like for party balloons) and fashion a mask or baggie so she can breath it for a minute or so. She'll go to sleep and won't feel anything. That's what the info on Google says. Some euthanasia proponents recommend it for humans suffering from terminal diseases, too.

Good luck.

A cylinder of nitrogen or argon will do equally well. The subject simply falls asleep in the absence of oxygen, no pain.

Along with other posters, I do wonder why as a species we are comfortable with giving our pets a merciful death, but thanks to the beliefs of religious ratbags it is a crime to do it for ourselves. A pox on all of them.

"Men do not do evil as cheerfully, as in the name of religion".

[ericjt]

Oh, no "subcutaneous hydration", either. I forgot.

Can't imagine how miserable your cat must feel already being sick and then getting food choked down her throat and needles stuck in her skin. I realize you're trying to help, but step back and think for a minute....

Except for your good intentions, wouldn't what you're doing to her be called "torture"? Leave the poor thing alone (medically), and see if you can help her die peacefully and painlessly.

[timmyp]

I had a cat several years back in Chicago that was kept alive by the same methods. It seemed to lower her quality of life too much, so we soon made the decision to put her under. You are doing the right thing.

I think you are going to get the vet contacts you need. I have known pet owners in Bangkok in similar situations who were able to find vets that would euthanize the animals when the time came.

[guavagirl]

One of my dogs has cancer and his vet has no problem putting him down and will do so whenever I say the word. My advice is to find another vet.

[LNKDES1]

We're going through the same thing with my wife's dog right now, kidney failure. I did convince her that, after losing half of her body weight, the dog wouldn't be with us much longer, and that it would be much more humane to remove her IV and hope for a quiet death. Putting the dog to sleep is not even an option for my wife. It's tough losing a family member.

[konying]

Pattaya Animal Clinic on Pattaya Tai, would do it . See Dr Kwanchai, do not see his wife.038 373 622

Eastern Pet hospital, on Sukhumvit road, next to Kawasaki shop, across the road from Honda Big Wing, directly opposite soi 46/3 Dr Sumadee, try him, but in confidence.

Mueang Acke on Sukhumvit road, has done it in the past.

All in Pattaya, so take a drive and see the 3 Vets.

I am very sorry to hear about the sickness, i must warn you though, it is NOT easy to watch or be present, but i would hold my pet to comfort it in last minutes.

[kiniyow]

Vet University Hospital will do it then donate the Feline Body for future Students to study

[jacko45k]

My neighbour was in a similar position to you with a very old cat.

It was his wife who would hear nothing of Euthanasia.

She sat us with it for quite a number of nights before it died. It was rather bad I felt to let it suffer so.

Sorry I do not know of a specific vets in the area that will help you, I have only heard some will, some won't.

I am sure someone will know one who will.

[Patsycat]

I find it very sad that you lot cannot make the decision for your beloved animals to be put out of their misery when the time comes and have to watch them suffer and drive around adding stress to you and the animal to find a vet to gently put the animal to sleep,

Sorry no commas, full stops nor sentences in the above!

I find it archaic and cruel. Not just to the animal but also to the family who also suffers the poor beast dying in front of them. And the dignity of the dog or cat, not being able to function properly and give their love to their family.

Makes me angry.

Hey, where i live. I can even put myself on the list to put myself down,

Edited August 23, 2015 by Patsycat

[two words]

Don't force feed her. She's not eating because her body can't handle it.

If you can't find a vet, check out getting a tank of helium (like for party balloons) and fashion a mask or baggie so she can breath it for a minute or so. She'll go to sleep and won't feel anything. That's what the info on Google says. Some euthanasia proponents recommend it for humans suffering from terminal diseases, My 82 year old neighbour killed himself with Helium and plastic bag over his head (taped around his neck) only 6 weeks ago. In Australia. He was told he only had weeks to live. I'm glad he didn't have to suffer. He used to play the recorder, of all instruments, very well.

[Keesters]

Pattaya Animal Hospital on South Pattaya Road euthanized my cat that was suffering from same/similar to yours some years ago. They were very kind, sympathetic, and understanding of my wish for the cat to not suffer anymore. But they could not help with disposal. Monks at Wat Chai did that, burying and saying a few prayers.

Best wishes......

[hugh2121]

One of my 4 dogs lost a lot of body weight and seemed very lethargic. Local vet said she was healthy and no problem. I insisted on a blood test which confirmed serious kidney problem. Tablets prescribed did not help. I took her to Pet Friend Animal Hospital on Sukhumvit Rd near Sri Racha along with previous blood test results. Kidneys did not show up on x-ray. Ultra sound showed that they had shrunk but were still at about 60%. They recommended a different diet of low protein but high quality protein instead of the high level crude protein in dog and cat foods. Royal Canin and Hills produce a tinned food for dogs and cats with renal disease/failure. This, however, gets a bit boring so I now cook her food in accordance with vet instructions. This may or may not be too late for your cat but other members may find it helpful. Diet is:

Meat or fresh water fish ( no fat ) = 33%

Black rice or Job's Tears or combo = 33%

Pumpkin, carrot, green veg = 33%

Sunflower oil for cooking meat.

Royal Canin Renal dry food for breakfast/ daytime snacks.

I blend it all together with a touch of soy sauce and a little olive oil to make it moist. When fish is on menu, I boil the fish and add a little of the leftover stock for extra flavour.

She is no longer losing weight, has all her old energy back and appears to be a very happy dog.

I hope this works for another caring pet owner but please consult a GOOD vet. A senior vet at the big animal hospitals seem to know their job.

In Pattaya I also had good treatment from Nern Plub Wan Animal Hosp on Soi of same name.

[ericjt]

We're going through the same thing with my wife's dog right now, kidney failure. I did convince her that, after losing half of her body weight, the dog wouldn't be with us much longer, and that it would be much more humane to remove her IV and hope for a quiet death. Putting the dog to sleep is not even an option for my wife. It's tough losing a family member.

Hope for a "quiet death"? For who? You? Your wife? Your poor dog, which is "quietly" starving and dying from thirst? If the dog could vote, what kind of death do you think it would choose?

You obviously love your dog. Have the courage to end its suffering.

[Chernsarmkhuat]

We had soi dog we looked after for about 5 years he looked old when we first met him. No idea how old he was. He went out for a night on the town as he did now and then but this time when he came back He was whining and limping around and did not eat for two days, that according to Goggle is when you are supposed to call the Vet. This we did the Vet took him away ran some blood tests said he had cancer but was strong enough for chemo therapy. By that time he was in the Animal Hospital we did not have much control and felt, well the Vet is the specialist.

She seemed to have the best intentions but no way would she put him down. We went to see him in the hospital he was in a terrible condition, could not stand up lying in his own mess. Anyway 8 days and 8000 baht later he went to sleep by him self.

If I knew then what I knew now I would have just let him fade out at home.

[alboxblue]

I bought my Labrador for my wife in 2003, 12 months before she died. The dog took her place in my heart and she went

everywhere with me. We came to LOS five years ago and continued to enjoy life together. Three months ago she was diagnosed

with diseased kidney`s and liver cancer. I gave her the best treatment I could find, but after a couple of months her health

was still failing. She could`nt walk and she refused to eat or drink, but the Vet refused to put her to sleep as it went

against her beliefs and religion. After much searching, I found a country vet who was prepared to do it for a price. (He had

to pay a large sum to his local Temple to atone for his sin.) I buried her in the garden and four Monks came and held a

burial service. You have been given some good leads on here, I am sure you will find someone to do it for you, when the time

comes.

[ericjt]

Call me cynical, but I'm not sure vets' resistance to euthanasia is 100% religious/ethical. I mean, most vets eat meat, right? So it's OK to kill animals, fry them up, and eat them? Then why the sudden problems with euthanasia? Could it be more about the money?

Heroic medical efforts at the end of life can cost a lot of money. Nice fat fees for the vets. As Chernsarmkhuat pointed out, it was 8000 Baht later (plus a lot of suffering) that his dog finally died. Chemo? For a dog? I've known humans who wouldn't consent to chemo. I can't even start to imagine what a nightmare that must have been for a dog!

But how much could the vet have charged for one euthanasia injection? 500 Baht? 1000 Baht? Compared to 8000 Baht for chemo? Looks like an easy choice for me, if I was the vet.

I like that one vet's story about a big donation to the temple. He gets points for "ingenious". No way to check on it, I guess, but I'm thinking most of the money ended up in the vet's "hip pocket temple".

I know. Call me cynical, but I'm really a nice guy. I just don't like old, sick animals suffering so vets can make a little extra money. Or pet lovers getting gouged.

Other people here have listed vets that will provide euthanasia services. I'd suggest that you push your vet really hard on the subject, if necessary. And if they still say no, keep asking other vets until you find one that says yes. Otherwise, take your pet to one of the vets listed here, even if it means a trip. Or do it yourself with helium, argon or nitrogen. (See above)

Your pet deserves that much at the end, don't they?

[Liberty42]

Thanks everyone for your support, kind words and vet contacts. After visiting another vet in Rayong city, my cat is in recovery right now.

Thanks for the recipe hugh2121. I am home cooking quality protein and giving her renal tin food and she's eating a lot and gaining weight. But I'm not sure for how long this recovery will last. Now that I have some options to end her suffering if need be, I feel a sense of comfort.

Like ericjt, I also wondered if these anti-euthanasia vets eat meat. The first vet told me that Thai vets do not want to perform euthanasia because "something bad might happen to them." So it's not about the animal - it's about them. And probably about the money.

[MrDWelsh]

So i am in this predicament as well but with my little girl's hamster, it has cancer and the local vet will not put her to sleep (euthanize).  Can anyone advise on a vet in Bangkok can help us out with this?  We are now needing to feed her and give her water by hand because the doctor drained a large abscess and the hamster now has one of those cones around her head.  The doctor says she needs surgery and amputate her leg along with having cancer.  Please help, anyone in any way  

[roo860]

So i am in this predicament as well but with my little girl's hamster, it has cancer and the local vet will not put her to sleep (euthanize).  Can anyone advise on a vet in Bangkok can help us out with this?  We are now needing to feed her and give her water by hand because the doctor drained a large abscess and the hamster now has one of those cones around her head.  The doctor says she needs surgery and amputate her leg along with having cancer.  Please help, anyone in any way  

Bloody hell, what next!!!

[Sheryl]

Sent you a PM with details of a Vet who will euthanize if he feels it is really indicated, which your case sounds like he would.

 

I don't want to post here because while he does euthanize in extreme situations, he won't just do it in demand and I don't think he wants a flood of people coming to him just for that. But case by case, if the animal is suffering and can't otherwise be helped. he will.

[Sheryl]

An insensitive post has been removed. This sub forum is for pet lovers.

[namasata]

Helium... kills by replacing the air in the lungs of anything that is breathing. It does not trigger the panic response that higher CO2 in the blood does.
The oxygen levels just fall and the person/animal passes out (not sleeping) from lack of oxygen. Keep the Helium flowing for about 6 minutes (for a person) to let it finish the job (people have about 6 minutes worth of Oxygen in their blood.

Pets are probably quicker to euthanize this way

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[meatboy]

12 hours ago, namasata said:

Helium... kills by replacing the air in the lungs of anything that is breathing. It does not trigger the panic response that higher CO2 in the blood does.
The oxygen levels just fall and the person/animal passes out (not sleeping) from lack of oxygen. Keep the Helium flowing for about 6 minutes (for a person) to let it finish the job (people have about 6 minutes worth of Oxygen in their blood.

Pets are probably quicker to euthanize this way

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HELIUM is for blowing up balloons, your in the WRONG FORUM.