Trump defies political gravity thanks to fed-up supporters

[Tep]

McCain's observation that Trump brings out the crazies is demonstrated time after time. His perceptiveness on this has gone a long way to restoring his credibility after the Palin mess. Let the clown car continue.

Really? When women knew their place. Old men and their fantasies for something that never existed except in their dreams.

Really junior, if you want to mix it with the grown ups here is a little bit of advice. To be sarcastic or put someone down, don't do it by ridiculing yourself by quoting someones comments incorrectly. Really, I said when women knew their place, sorry I never said it, but in an attempt to show your manhood you make a fool of yourself. As for the two clowns who liked you, I suggest you also dry behind your ears.

Clearly wisdom has not accrued with age. The answer to not being ridiculed is to not be ridiculous. I am one of those rejects that you dismiss so blithely and arrogantly. I also grew up in the period you cite. It was a time of ignorance, hypocrisy and fear. Our time is now here. It started with the sexual revolution in 1969 and has not and will not stop. Trump will revive the Camelot that never was? You and your fellow Trumpettes are a global laughing stock. In case the eyesight or the memory has gone, your exact words were 'a mother's place...' You talk about 'men with backbone'. Where's yours? Own your own words. Own your hypocrisy. And own your ignorance.

If you honestly believe wwhat you spruke, then empathy is in order as you are a sad, naive little boy who could never make it in the real world.

Two posts and the guy from the era of 'men with backbones' caves. I identified a number of issues relevant to the impact of the culture wars and you respond with puerile invective. You are a true dyed-in-the-wool Trumpette. He cannot take any critical comment without childish responses. He only speaks in hollow stereotypes to similarly inclined crazies. The last gasp of the angry old white men as the World sees the first Black President establish a world-spanning legacy on social issues and prepares to witness the first female President who will continue that social program. Current and future generations care not a jot for your grumblings. Please continue your insults. It reinforces your complete lack of rationale, reason or substance in your original statements. A true Trumpette indeed.

[Chicog]

He is completely, unquestionably wrong about the issue he's build his entire campaign around.

That people who entered the country illegally should be forced to leave? It is just common sense and should have been done long ago. They are ILLEGAL.

Not only is it completely unworkable but it will decimate the agricultural and other industries.

Let's see how much support it has from the public when their fruit, veg and milk prices suddenly soar.

This is from 2014 so I don't know what the state of play is right now, but I doubt it's much different.

In terms of overall numbers, The Department of Labor reports that of the 2.5 million farm workers in the U.S., over half (53 percent) are illegal immigrants. Growers and labor unions put this figure at 70 percent.

Or would you make an exception for this?

[chuckd]

Perhaps this will lend some credence to Trump's claims on immigrants and the job market.

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698K Native-Born Americans Lost Their Job In August: Why This Suddenly Is The Most Important Jobs Chart

After the Fed admitted over a year ago that the US unemployment rate (which in 2012 was supposed to be a rate hike "threshold" once it hit 6.5% and is now at 5.1%) has become irrelevant in a country where a record 94 million people have left the labor force, and with the Fed poised to hike rates even though US hourly wages have not only not increased for the past 7 years, but for the vast majority of the labor force continue to decline, some have asked - is there any labor-related chart that matters any more?

The answer: a resounding yes, only it is none of the conventional charts that algos and sometimes humans look at.

The one chart that matters more than ever,has little to nothing to do with the Fed's monetary policy, but everything to do with the November 2016 presidential elections in which the topic of immigration, both legal and illegal, is shaping up to be the most rancorous, contentious and divisive.

The chart is the following, showing the cumulative addition of foreign-born and native-born workers added to US payrolls according to the BLS since December 2007, i.e., since the start of the recession/Second Great Depression.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-07/698k-native-born-americans-lost-their-job-august-why-suddenly-most-important-jobs-ch

[Ulysses G.]

He is completely, unquestionably wrong about the issue he's build his entire campaign around.

That people who entered the country illegally should be forced to leave? It is just common sense and should have been done long ago. They are ILLEGAL.

Not only is it completely unworkable but it will decimate the agricultural and other industries.

Not with good guest-worker programs and strict adherence to E-verify.

[Chicog]

Which is not the same as just lobbing them all out on day one

[Ulysses G.]

The ILLEGALS would be thrown out. The guest workers would be working legally. Many farms in America use legal guest-workers already, but the program could be easily expanded.

[Chicog]

The ILLEGALS would be thrown out. The guest workers would be working legally. Many farms in America use legal guest-workers already, but the program could be easily expanded.

So people who are already employed don't get thrown out?

Not sure Donald thinks that way.

[NeverSure]

When I was a kid in the US welfare payments were stingy and hard to get and there were no food stamps. Guess what? Americans did the farm labor.

I have a problem with a system that pays people to sit on their butts while proclaiming that they won't do the work that illegals do. I grew up doing that work as a family responsibility and I mean I have NO sympathy.

I have a problem with a system that pays people my tax money to sit on their butts because "This work is beneath them". I have a problem with a system that says "There is no work" when millions of illegals find work. People used to know that it's better to work than to go hungry but we've allowed them to avoid that thinking.

My frustration with liberal thinking is endless.

Cheers.

[JakeSully]

When I was a kid in the US welfare payments were stingy and hard to get and there were no food stamps. Guess what? Americans did the farm labor.

I have a problem with a system that pays people to sit on their butts while proclaiming that they won't do the work that illegals do. I grew up doing that work as a family responsibility and I mean I have NO sympathy.

I have a problem with a system that pays people my tax money to sit on their butts because "This work is beneath them". I have a problem with a system that says "There is no work" when millions of illegals find work. People used to know that it's better to work than to go hungry but we've allowed them to avoid that thinking.

My frustration with liberal thinking is endless.

Cheers.

Not to worry 70% of your tax money goes to the Military, 20% to social security and medicaid, 8% to the WORKING POOR and 2% to the people sitting on their butts.

So you're pissed off at only 98% efficiency of taxes paid?

I won't say you're making this stuff up because people like that do exist, however what is much more common is people who work but still can't make ends meet and they are granted an additional income through food stamps.

The ones who refuse to work are given benefits FOR A LIMITED TIME - usually for 3 months only if they are ABAWD (able bodied adults without dependents). Hence only 2% of the equation.

[NeverSure]

"So you're pissed off at only 98% efficiency of taxes paid?"