Got deported last year and didn't pay the bills

[JohnnyBKK]

Hello,

I got deported last year so i couldn't pay the bills for internet and my phone, do you think i risk to get arrested if i go to Thailand again ? I read about those 2 guys who didn't pay a restaurant bill.

How can i check if i'm "wanted" in Thailand from abroad ?

Thanks for the answers.

[ubonjoe]

Were you blacklisted when you were deported? What was the reason for it?

You will probably not have a problem entering the country for the unpaid bills.

This company can check your status for a fee of 2 or 3k baht. http://www.thaivisaservice.com

[jacksam]

Well maybe if you had paid the bills after you were deported and back on your feet, you wouldn't have anything to worry about. Sounds like you opted to let it slide.

Having said that, the case you are referring to seems unusual. That restaurant owner might have connections.

Perhaps paid the money owing then enter. In the main because you owe it.

[JohnnyBKK]

Can't pay the bills if i'm not in the country, i pay them at 7/11 and you need the bills to pay them.

Reason was "came to work and has no money" when i tried to enter from Hong Kong, i was denied entry and deported.

First of all i didn't come to work and i have more than enough money, but i came with an ED Visa and it was the ED Visa crackdown.

[JohnnyBKK]

Were you blacklisted when you were deported? What was the reason for it?

You will probably not have a problem entering the country for the unpaid bills.

This company can check your status for a fee of 2 or 3k baht. http://www.thaivisaservice.com

Thanks i sent them an email to check all my status in Thailand, with immigration and police too, just in case.

[ubonjoe]

Being denied entry is not being deported. You have to of entered the country to be deported.

You probably will not have a problem entering the country but you should be prepared to be questioned about the denial of entry.

The bills should not be a problem. The phone/internet company would have to file paperwork and then the police would have to issue an arrest warrant. Normally it is not worth the effort for them to do it.

[Soutpeel]

Can't pay the bills if i'm not in the country, i pay them at 7/11 and you need the bills to pay them.

Reason was "came to work and has no money" when i tried to enter from Hong Kong, i was denied entry and deported.

First of all i didn't come to work and i have more than enough money, but i came with an ED Visa and it was the ED Visa crackdown.

Cant pay the bill cos your not in country

What internet company is it ?

May come as a surprise to you internet companies have websites, and you could have sent them an enquiry as to what is owed and done a transfer from outside Thailand....too simple ?

And you werent deported you where prohibited from entering the country thats not deportation

Edited September 17, 2015 by Soutpeel

[Jip99]

Can't pay the bills if i'm not in the country, i pay them at 7/11 and you need the bills to pay them.

Reason was "came to work and has no money" when i tried to enter from Hong Kong, i was denied entry and deported.

First of all i didn't come to work and i have more than enough money, but i came with an ED Visa and it was the ED Visa crackdown.

Doesn't sound like you tried very hard to pay the bills.

Didn't think about scanning the bills to me (or someone of your choice), putting funds in my account and then I stroll to 7/11 to pay ???

[jacksam]

OP, it's almost certain that you won't have a problem. Think why myself and few others are having a dip at you is that excuse is pretty lame. Surely there is someone here that you could of sent money to and cleared it up.

Only now with recent father/son arrest do you seem to be worried. Point is when your back, only you can answer if you bother taking care of lose ends by paying your bills

Edited September 17, 2015 by jacksam

[Pib]

You can probably enter the country without problem assuming you meet basic entry requirements, but saying you couldn't pay the bills because you were not in the country is laughable. You didn't pay your bills because you really didn't want to....thought you wouldn't be coming back to Thailand...thought it wouldn't ever be an issue...didn't put any real effort into it.

[JohnnyBKK]

Because i pay them at 7/11, you need to have the bill to pay it, they refuse any other way. I already tried. I remember when i was not receiving the bills they refused to take my payment until i could present the bill to them. I had to go there in person to ask for a reissue of the bill and it took them 2 month to do it.

I don't care about a few thousands baht, but it's not easy to pay bills without the bills.

I got deported, the officer told me i'm being deported and i was in a cell. In my stop to Dubai in my way back i was also in a cell and escorted by officers who gave me back my passport only in my country.

They insisted telling me i was working in Thailand i said no till the end because i wasn't working in Thailand.

[ubonjoe]

I get my sat TV, internet and phone bills by email and pay them using online banking.

Perhaps their are some companies that don't do them by email so I will not comment anymore about it.

[dddave]

I can see how it would be very difficult to pay bills from out of the country...especially when the situation was not anticipated in advance, as was the case with the OP. Chances are he did not pack along his bill copies (would you?) when he departed for his trip to HK.

Ever tried to pay a bill without your bill copy in hand? Do you know your 10+ digit account number by heart? Even if one was in Thailand at the time it would be a difficult project, Trying to do the same from outside would be daunting at the very least.

Edited September 17, 2015 by dddave

[Tomtomtom69]

Because i pay them at 7/11, you need to have the bill to pay it, they refuse any other way. I already tried. I remember when i was not receiving the bills they refused to take my payment until i could present the bill to them. I had to go there in person to ask for a reissue of the bill and it took them 2 month to do it.

I don't care about a few thousands baht, but it's not easy to pay bills without the bills.

I got deported, the officer told me i'm being deported and i was in a cell. In my stop to Dubai in my way back i was also in a cell and escorted by officers who gave me back my passport only in my country.

They insisted telling me i was working in Thailand i said no till the end because i wasn't working in Thailand.

Well you're right, in Thailand normally most bills can only be paid if you are physically present in the country.

Doesn't sound like you tried hard enough though last time you were here. Or you could perhaps ask someone in the country to pay on your behalf and then you pay them back later.

Still, doubtful there would be an issue on entry - your refusal of entry is a far greater issue.

You might be refused service by the companies in question in future, but in general, Thai authorities have little ability to enforce non-payment of bills with things like debt collectors and leans on your property or taking possession of belongings etc. doesn't happen here. Those kind of things only happen in more developed countries.

On the other hand if you ever deal with loan sharks then all bets are off. They will cut your head off before you can even mutter the words "can I pay you tomorrow?"

[JohnnyBKK]

Again... YOU CANT PAY WITHOUT BILLS ! Please get that in your head. Thanks. I haven't been back since 1 year, bills are all gone. My car is gone, my cloth are gone, my computer is gone, my stuff is all gone. I've lost everything when i got deported.

I can't even get the bills.

[l3fty]

I like how everyone keeps going on and on and on and on and on about "Well if you paid them in the first place".... DUH!!! If he did why the eff would he be asking on ThaiVisa about his situation?

I guess all these people have never made mistakes... I am pretty sure I remember someone saying ... he who is without sin cast the first stone

[Sviss Geez]

Well you're right, in Thailand normally most bills can only be paid if you are physically present in the country.

Doesn't sound like you tried hard enough though last time you were here. Or you could perhaps ask someone in the country to pay on your behalf and then you pay them back later.

Still, doubtful there would be an issue on entry - your refusal of entry is a far greater issue.

You might be refused service by the companies in question in future, but in general, Thai authorities have little ability to enforce non-payment of bills with things like debt collectors and leans on your property or taking possession of belongings etc. doesn't happen here. Those kind of things only happen in more developed countries.

On the other hand if you ever deal with loan sharks then all bets are off. They will cut your head off before you can even mutter the words "can I pay you tomorrow?"

"Thai authorities have little ability to enforce non-payment of bills with things like debt collectors and leans on your property or taking possession of belongings etc. doesn't happen here. Those kind of things only happen in more developed countries."

Nonsense, official debt collecting happens here all the time.

[Sharp]

Again... YOU CANT PAY WITHOUT BILLS ! Please get that in your head. Thanks. I haven't been back since 1 year, bills are all gone. My car is gone, my cloth are gone, my computer is gone, my stuff is all gone. I've lost everything when i got deported.

I can't even get the bills.

Wow!! Not sure I would even want to come back after that..

Edited September 17, 2015 by ubonjoe
fixed broken quote

[Rumblecat]

I like how everyone keeps going on and on and on and on and on about "Well if you paid them in the first place".... DUH!!! If he did why the eff would he be asking on ThaiVisa about his situation?

I guess all these people have never made mistakes... I am pretty sure I remember someone saying ... he who is without sin cast the first stone

I know, it's crazy. Especially enjoyable are the tut-tut brigade : well, it doesn't sound like you tried very hard to pay your bills...

The dude was out of the country, people. He didn't have the bills.

I don't know what this simple concept is so hard for some people to grasp.

[itsmylife]

He was not working but was caught in the act of work.

[oncearugge]

Again... YOU CANT PAY WITHOUT BILLS ! Please get that in your head. Thanks. I haven't been back since 1 year, bills are all gone. My car is gone, my cloth are gone, my computer is gone, my stuff is all gone. I've lost everything when i got deported.

I can't even get the bills.

Debt collectors ?

[JohnnyBKK]

He was not working but was caught in the act of work.

Who ? I was coming back from week end holiday in HK. I've never engaged in any work in Thailand.

[GAZZPA]

Bit confused, did you actually get deported or just refused entry?

Anyway, for the bills I see absolutely no way that the companies are going to chase you for a few thousand baht. However, I would strongly suggest that you go to one of the offices of the providers and pay up what they say you owe.

Also I believe debt is a civil offence even in Thialand unless it is proved to be fraudulent.

[HidyHo]

I get my sat TV, internet and phone bills by email and pay them using online banking.

Perhaps their are some companies that don't do them by email so I will not comment anymore about it.

I think this is easy if one is setup in Thailand with Thai bank and etc.

I asked True and AIS if I can setup auto pay with Singapore credit card and was told that it wasn't possible. I would be curious to know if anyone setup some sort of auto-pay with foreign credit card.

[oncearugge]

He was not working but was caught in the act of work.

Who ? I was coming back from week end holiday in HK. I've never engaged in any work in Thailand.

Have you asked these guys to check what your status actually is

[email protected]

Maybe worth their reasonable fee................

[itsmylife]

He was not working but was caught in the act of work.

Who ? I was coming back from week end holiday in HK. I've never engaged in any work in Thailand.

Have you asked these guys to check what your status actually is

[email protected]

Maybe worth their reasonable fee................

or he can call the interpol ........

[tropo]

Can't pay the bills if i'm not in the country, i pay them at 7/11 and you need the bills to pay them.

Reason was "came to work and has no money" when i tried to enter from Hong Kong, i was denied entry and deported.

First of all i didn't come to work and i have more than enough money, but i came with an ED Visa and it was the ED Visa crackdown.

Cant pay the bill cos your not in country

What internet company is it ?

May come as a surprise to you internet companies have websites, and you could have sent them an enquiry as to what is owed and done a transfer from outside Thailand....too simple ?

And you werent deported you where prohibited from entering the country thats not deportation

You think? I tried that with CAT as I stayed away longer than I anticipated. I emailed my account manager. There was no way for me to pay the bill. I had to get a friend to go in and pay it.

CAT had the best chance of helping me, but as for the other big 3, True, 3BB and TOT - in your dreams. It's not going to happen.

Edited September 17, 2015 by tropo

[boike]

Stopped readimg after the 1st 11 posts. The guy is looking for answers and here again there are so many of you pointing fingers.

Even if you have everything in order you only get in if the IO iwants to. Don't think these things cannot happen to anyone of you finger pointers.

Sent from my S4 LTE

Edited September 17, 2015 by boike

[DeeMak9]

He was not working but was caught in the act of work.

Who ? I was coming back from week end holiday in HK. I've never engaged in any work in Thailand.

Hi. I experienced the same a year ago when coming back from HK. I believe we chatted before. You had the same stamp as me. I also spent a night in that cell with all the Nigerians. I had to buy a business class ticket back in order to leave the next day. Got my passport back after entering the gate. Anyways, I went home and got a non immigrant O based upon the birth certificate of my daughter. 2 weeks later I managed to enter. I went for one more in Vientaine after that.

You got, like me, denied entry but youre probably not blacklisted. I'm on a Thai Elite now and still experience difficulty entering and leaving the country. But when you are really not working you just cant do much more than having a correct visa, cash, and a good explaination.

I find it hard to believe they will issue a warrant over unpaid telephone and internet bills.

Edited September 17, 2015 by DeeMak9

[peterb17]

Gosh some people have such complicated lives.

What did the OP think? I have a phone and internet service, but of I expect this to be free, I'm not going to pay the companies that provide these services.

He informs us he has plenty of money.

In a way this is theft- why not pay like everyone else?