AGareth2 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I find it hard to believe that karadag actually confessed to being the erawan shrine bomber he does not fit the description of the bomber in any way I think this is a load of cobblers he confessed under duress. and now he has confessed that he confessed But did he do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hall Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I find it hard to believe that karadag actually confessed to being the erawan shrine bomber he does not fit the description of the bomber in any way I think this is a load of cobblers he confessed under duress. and now he has confessed that he confessed But did he do it? Up to the court to decide. That's how it works. Also in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracas Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Is this Lawyer the Defence Lawyer or the Prosecutor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjun12 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Karadag also said he wanted an Uighur interpreter as he could not communicate in both English and Turkish. ------ I wonder in what language he has been communicating all this time while in custody? That is not what he said. You must be confused. He wants an interpreter because he cannot speak either English or Turkish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Right. With defense lawyer with these skills, they can dispense with prosecution side of the case. Maybe he is hoping for both sides to pay his fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjun12 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thai lawyer knows how to stay alive In any Western country this lawyer would be disbared. I practiced law for many years and I cannot imagin an attorney doing what is attributed to this guy and continueing to practice law. What he did is criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Karadag also said he wanted an Uighur interpreter as he could not communicate in both English and Turkish. ------ I wonder in what language he has been communicating all this time while in custody? Charades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Why is the defendants lawyer divulging conversations he had with his client? It would seem that he is working for the prosecutor. But then after my experiences with Thai lawyers I am not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakhonandy Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 How about he can communicate in basic English and Turkish but not with the fluency to represent himself? He obviously has been communicating, probably in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackattack Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Muslim people keep killing an killing they always bring up some crazy nonsense about the Koran same story here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thai lawyer knows how to stay alive In any Western country this lawyer would be disbared. I practiced law for many years and I cannot imagin an attorney doing what is attributed to this guy and continueing to practice law. What he did is criminal. I think you are getting a bit mixed and muddled Kjun---------"cannot imagine attorney doing what is attributed to this guy" I think it was the "guy" that was DOING it not the Attorney "What he did is criminal"------------ who? The Guy or the Attorney????? Sorry but I read your post 3 times and still "me no understand" HaHa But I think I know what you mean !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Very very odd. He can't communicate without an interpreter yet he made a confession to police, and told his lawyer he made a confession. He did not confess to the lawyer, but allegedly told his lawyer he had confessed to the police. There's a difference. Why is his lawyer going public with the admission of a confession? This is the biggest question right now. This guy needs an incorruptible and dedicated lawyer. Remember, the lawyer, out of the blue, assigned himself.....who is paying him? It's easy to imagine that this guy is a patsy, and that the lawyer was never on his side from the start.....I really don't blame the people who suffer from the old MacCarthyism slogan; Reds under the bed. Lawyer could be part of the "lets wrap it up and put it to bed' crowd. After politicians I hate lawyers the most. All the lawyer jokes are true and then some. Shysters all of them. Edited September 30, 2015 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 He's done something for sure ..... but if he is falling on his sword for some-one else, that makes it a very dangerous ongoing situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 is he mentally retarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Is this Lawyer the Defence Lawyer or the Prosecutor ? Defence lawyer - I want to know where the human rights watch are as they need to convince him to deny everything and say he was tortured as that is their stock procedure!! The truth doesn't come into it, just lie your head off and adopt an angelic look until you gain sympathy, it normally works once enough people are taken in by it!! Edited September 30, 2015 by lucky11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Who is this lawyer guy working for, his client or the police? Every once in a while you get a small flicker of insight into the Thai justice system and it is does not appear to be a pretty picture. Did the accused guy confess in English or Turkish? Apparently it was not in his first language as he wants an interpreter. I am sure we will be getting a drip-drip account from at least six most conflicting sources for the next 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMBob Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thai lawyer knows how to stay alive In any Western country this lawyer would be disbared. I practiced law for many years and I cannot imagin an attorney doing what is attributed to this guy and continueing to practice law. What he did is criminal. I think you are getting a bit mixed and muddled Kjun---------"cannot imagine attorney doing what is attributed to this guy" I think it was the "guy" that was DOING it not the Attorney "What he did is criminal"------------ who? The Guy or the Attorney????? Sorry but I read your post 3 times and still "me no understand" HaHa But I think I know what you mean !!!! No, Kjun12 isn't muddled....or wrong....at all. Please read his post again. He was talking about what the lawyer did.....exposing his client's confidences to the press and public. I'm doubtful that what the lawyer did is technically criminal but in the west this lawyer would definitely be disbarred. Thailand has the same ethics rule barring disclosure of client communications absent the clear and knowledgeable consent of the client (and, given even this lawyer said the accused requested an Uighur interpreter as he couldn't communicate in other languages, it's unlikely that a proper waiver was ever given). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praematura Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Bomber or not the RTP police need to put this behind them ASAP and this guy is <deleted>. Look at the ko-Tao guys, guilty or not they are going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Bomber or not the RTP police need to put this behind them ASAP and this guy is <deleted>. Look at the ko-Tao guys, guilty or not they are going down. Do you want to know the difference between these two cases? I will tell you, the rights watch dare not get involved in this one, hence the lack of denial and retraction of guilt under the pretence of torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) So without being able to talk to him in his own language both the police and his lawyer are confident of his confession. Seems odd to say the least. Universal sign isn't odd in the least and an extremely simple language. Edited September 30, 2015 by silent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Glad he wore the most inconspicuous shirt so cameras couldn't pick him out in a crowd. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Very very odd. He can't communicate without an interpreter yet he made a confession to police, and told his lawyer he made a confession. He did not confess to the lawyer, but allegedly told his lawyer he had confessed to the police. There's a difference. Why is his lawyer going public with the admission of a confession? This is the biggest question right now. This guy needs an incorruptible and dedicated lawyer. Remember, the lawyer, out of the blue, assigned himself.....who is paying him? It's easy to imagine that this guy is a patsy, and that the lawyer was never on his side from the start.....I really don't blame the people who suffer from the old MacCarthyism slogan; Reds under the bed. It's the militaries lawyer! But I have to say, this isn't one case I would like to speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green job Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Do you look linke this? sure it TV poster time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green job Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Typo Like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thai lawyer knows how to stay alive In any Western country this lawyer would be disbared. I practiced law for many years and I cannot imagin an attorney doing what is attributed to this guy and continueing to practice law. What he did is criminal. I think you are getting a bit mixed and muddled Kjun---------"cannot imagine attorney doing what is attributed to this guy" I think it was the "guy" that was DOING it not the Attorney "What he did is criminal"------------ who? The Guy or the Attorney????? Sorry but I read your post 3 times and still "me no understand" HaHa But I think I know what you mean !!!! My native language isn't English but I understood perfectly what he meant. For a lawyer to present himself as the uigurs attorney and too disclose anything to the public is unlawful and unethical in any developed country. Disclosing a client-attorney discussion to the public is a criminal act and he should be disbarred immediately if he's really the uigurs representative lawyer, if not, he went to question him under false pretenses. Not so difficult to understand, wether 'this guy' is guilty or not to the bombing, should be left to REAL lawyers and a REAL justice system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang2002 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Karadag also said he wanted an Uighur interpreter as he could not communicate in both English and Turkish. ------ I wonder in what language he has been communicating all this time while in custody? Whatever language, so much for client confidentiality. Kind of lawyer I'd want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkknight666 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Possibly, the RTP promise guys like this the moon and no jail time if they play along for the public, Once they have "confessed" they're boned anyway. Why would the guy just give up and confess when the cops can barely figure out a homicide case? I mean, maybe he is just that stupid.., sure I'm skeptic of all the work done under this govt'. Why not have the guy show where he got his disguise from and have him run by the cameras as per usual RTP procedure? I hope they do have the bomber(s)... But, color me skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Karadag also said he wanted an Uighur interpreter as he could not communicate in both English and Turkish. ------ I wonder in what language he has been communicating all this time while in custody? that's what i thought, he must have done well already, maybe he wants to retract his confession once an interpreter sees him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Karadag also said he wanted an Uighur interpreter as he could not communicate in both English and Turkish. ------ I wonder in what language he has been communicating all this time while in custody? Arabic Chinese, Thai, english and turkish, however he needs a Uigher interpreter to help with gettting leniency, and for describing his motive as, "I only did it so I could get into the country" WOW, only murdered 20 people by placing a bomb and maiming many others so please give me leniency as I will explain it was not a terrorist attack and I dont blame you Thai police for deporting my friends some of whom got shot dead and imrisoned that was just normal proceedure I only wanted to save money getting into Thailand so I went to temple disguised with Mr Emeraili after he gave me bomb and he went to shrine as well to take lovely pictures of death and mayhem, sorry after I called his cell he detonate but me not sure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Leniency means death without torture first? Oh PLEASE oh PLEASE!!!!!. If he gets life I'll bet the Thais in prison will provide some "punishment" to fit the crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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