SURVEY: Do you agree with the police being given financial rewards?

[Scott]

During the recent riots in Phuket, some police were given financial rewards for bravery in handling the crisis. Police were also given financial rewards in the recent Erawan Shrine bombing case. Do you agree that the police should be given financial rewards?

Please feel free to make a comment.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/863482-injured-phuket-riot-police-receive-more-compensation-arrest-warrants-requested/

[stoneyboy]

Of course they shouldn't receive financial rewards how absurd,it's the most hideous thing I've read about in many years of living/traveling to Thailand.

The only rewards they should receive should be like the ones below.

Edited October 18, 2015 by stoneyboy

[bdenner]

I agree with the above, make em earn the ribbons they wear!

[sirineou]

everyone get's paid for the job they do , why not the cops?

[NongKhaiKid]

I can see the point for something along the lines of criminal injuries compensation providing laid down criteria are met and not the

Once again a post has been cut off so I'll try again.

Edited October 18, 2015 by NongKhaiKid

[simonuk]

Extra pay for doing the job you're already paid for...sign me up!

[stoneyboy]

everyone get's paid for the job they do , why not the cops?

Of course they do,the Metropolitan police often ring crime stoppers to receive their cash reward upon solving numerous crimes in the English capital London. Edited October 18, 2015 by stoneyboy

[NongKhaiKid]

I can see the point for something like criminal injuries compensation providing laid down criteria are met and not the apparent ' on a whim ' payments we see for simply doing the job they're paid to do albeit a low salary.

In the past police chiefs have repeatedly ' called on, urged, implored ' etc their men to do their job and now it seems extra financial inducements are thought necessary.

Who can forget the obscene public display of the Bt. 3 Million which was then handed over to the BIB with no shame whatsoever ?

[Jessi]

NO!

There is so much corruption in RTP. If you knew it would blow your mind.

So why pay them extra?

[Badbanker]

The Royal Thai Police are very underpaid!

On graduation after 4 years of study at police academy, they will have to spend 100,000 baht of their own money for kit that that will allow them to do their job. (Gun, ammunition, uniforms, laptop computer, printer and everything else are expensive)

In the west, police forces are given guns, computers and uniforms for free along with generous salaries benefits.

40 years ago the Singapore police were paid on a similar level to Thai police officers. It didn't work and they were corrupt to a similar level in other ASEAN countries. The government found out that by giving a real salary and real benefits they got an honest result.

Once the RTP are given a real salary and conditions their attitude and work ethic will also change.

Financial rewards in the form of a real salary and conditions are a necessity!

[stoneyboy]

The Royal Thai Police are very underpaid!

On graduation after 4 years of study at police academy, they will have to spend 100,000 baht of their own money for kit that that will allow them to do their job. (Gun, ammunition, uniforms, laptop computer, printer and everything else are expensive)

In the west, police forces are given guns, computers and uniforms for free along with generous salaries benefits.

40 years ago the Singapore police were paid on a similar level to Thai police officers. It didn't work and they were corrupt to a similar level in other ASEAN countries. The government found out that by giving a real salary and real benefits they got an honest result.

Once the RTP are given a real salary and conditions their attitude and work ethic will also change.

Financial rewards in the form of a real salary and conditions are a necessity!

Don't forget the quintessential white t shirts for after hours socialising.

[stoneyboy]

Incidentally this is me waiting for the RTP to be paid a real salary ensuring their work ethic is on par with nations such as Singapore.

[Praematura]

My favorite part is they received the cash for... the bomber(s) still at large. So when you look at the correlation between the award and results it makes me wonder what the reward was for because they didn't catch the bomber and the guy they have in jail now was turned in by someone who lived in the same building. Recall the officers that were supposed to have searched the area but didn't (unsurprising) got transferred. So unless the person tipped off the police about his fellow tenet the Thai police would have jack#### right now and would be scrambling for a red shirt to pin this on.

[oneday]

Absolutely, unequivocally NO! It is disgraceful.

[JAG]

everyone get's paid for the job they do , why not the cops?

They already get paid.

[robblok]

Incidentally this is me waiting for the RTP to be paid a real salary ensuring their work ethic is on par with nations such as Singapore.

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Wow you did not let yourself go and kept real slim. Well done.

[JAG]

My favorite part is they received the cash for... the bomber(s) still at large. So when you look at the correlation between the award and results it makes me wonder what the reward was for because they didn't catch the bomber and the guy they have in jail now was turned in by someone who lived in the same building. Recall the officers that were supposed to have searched the area but didn't (unsurprising) got transferred. So unless the person tipped off the police about his fellow tenet the Thai police would have jack#### right now and would be scrambling for a red shirt to pin this on.

Would be - they are!

[rwdrwdrwd]

I think the cash rewards are distasteful, but low salaries are the wider issue.

[richard_smith237]

I believe in recognising those who've carried out their duty beyond the normally accepted measures, I especially believe in recognise those who carried out their duty with bravery.

I don't believe in financial reward for someone doing their job well, for it leads to a culture of only doing something well (or better) if there is a possibility of financial gain.

That said, may other sectors offer bonuses for those who meet or exceed targets and expectations, so why not the Police ?

We have learned to expect that those in the Services (particularly Police forces) are there to keep the public safe, they are in service for the greater good of the public... Should they get paid 'extra' for doing this? No, this should be the norm - its their job.

Recognition should come in a series of Promotions, Medals etc.. people in the 'services' who do their jobs well should be encouraged to do so out of pride before financial gain.

[Sutty]

As a guest in a foreign country with no rights to vote so therefore I can not nor would I want to comment on things I have no control over. So why is this question being asked of mainly ex patts who can do nothing to change the law or culture of the land they decided to live in.

[Kerryd]

Absolutely NOT.

Giving them financial rewards for doing the job they are already being paid for screams of corruption and opens the door to even more corruption.

What, we won't get a reward for solving this crime ? Meh - file and forget it.

What, we could make a HUGE bonus for "making sure" this crime is solved ? Drop everything ! Priority 1 - solve this case immediately anyway possible !

What, no crimes happening that are worth solving ? Well, we wouldn't want to actually commit a crime ourselves but........if the "reward" could be worth it.......

I agree that the police should be paid a decent salary and the basic needs of their jobs (uniforms and equipment) should be supplied. In return they should also be held to a higher standard and any instances of criminal activity should be severely punished.

Right now if you were to throw more money at the police, nothing would change (except they'd be even richer). Without actually prosecuting and making examples of the worst of them, there is NO incentive for them to be honest (not that all of them are dishonest - I'm sure more than a few aren't happy with the way things are but so far every attempt to change things has seemingly failed).

It's hard to stamp out corruption once it has taken root. Look at China where they routinely hang corrupt politicians, police and businessmen yet they still have problems. It's a process that could take generations to change but it has to start somewhere and the longer it takes to make meaningful changes, the longer it will take to eventually end the corruption.

[Seastallion]

everyone get's paid for the job they do , why not the cops?

They already get paid.

They don't get paid enough.

Many companies offer bonuses for workers who perform well....why not bonuses for underpaid policemen who perform well? It's an incentive to perform well.

[JeffreyO]

Financial reward for doing their job? We call that a yearly bonus, not a reward for finding each individual criminal. Financial rewards like this are a joke.

Give them badges, medals, etc. If there is financial bonuses WITH those medals, then i have no problem but the idea that they get the public reward is a joke.

[siddv]

Police and financial rewards belong in the corruption museum!!

[Ricardo]

The problem is that cash-rewards from specific private-individuals can too easily be viewed as bribes.

[Sutty]

As a guest in a foreign country with no rights to vote so therefore I can not nor would I want to comment on things I have no control over. So why is this question being asked of mainly ex patts who can do nothing to change the law or culture of the land they decided to live in.

Ok I take back the no wish to comment but the no right bit stands. When the bankers managed to bring the world near as dam it to its knees was that not corruption lining there own pockets taking from the people they were supposed to serve. When Fifa officials lined there own pockets to award World cup to countries who should never have received them is that not corruption leaving the people who they serve to fork out even more money to be able to see there team. When doing business isn't it customery to take clients out and wine and dine them or to put it simply to bribe them with food and drink to win contracts. Come on police all over the world are on the take as are politicians, so ok bash the Thai Police as they are easy targets here but think just for a second can you say you never took a back hander of any sort in your life.

Edited October 19, 2015 by Sutty

[Che Serna]

If you look at this practice from a purely sanctimonious western prospective of course not surprisingly most would say NO.

But that's is also misinformed, in Australia in matters of fraud & others. Companies's, such as insurance companies are able to donate funds to the police investigation, specially if the fraud is jurisdictional and an expensive operation.

Did as suggested the Australian gov's pay certain Indonesian officials to be more vigilant in stopping people smuggling? The answer is obviously YES.

Does any and all western gov donate/bribe Asian and other police forces to be more vigilant & get results?, say for example the Philippines? Yes.

So the reality Western gov, police forces pay for vigilance and intelligence all the time don't they directly to the police forces mentioned likely in cash donation?...The answer is YES!

From an Asian lens seems to me the Thai police did a great job in catching those terrorists....Did the reward money make a difference?...Absolutely YES.

Do Businessmen in Asia donate to the police in the Philippines, Thailand Cambodia etc etc?...Absolutely they do

So yes looking closely at the facts everyone pays the police in Asia one way or another.

[Eric Loh]

Give the police their just wage and not reward. Emulate the wage structure of Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore but place reform ahead of wage revision.

[dan1963]

the police should never get a reward for doing their part!

on the other hand, they are underpaid, wich could increase the risk of corruption ...

[Soutpeel]

Of course they shouldn't receive financial rewards how absurd,it's the most hideous thing I've read about in many years of living/traveling to Thailand.

The only rewards they should receive should be like the ones below.

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Constable Savage in middle there has aged a bit....Wonder what year he got out the SPG