Red-shirt leader offers to work with Thai govt

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UBON RATCHATHANI
Red-shirt leader offers to work with govt
ANAPAT DEECHUAY
THE NATION



BANGKOK: -- A RED-SHIRT leader in Ubon Ratchathani yesterday promised to work with the government in restoring peace in society and helping to develop the country.

Jamroonsak Jantaramai, who is affiliated with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), made the vow while meeting PM Prayut Chan-o-cha during his official visit to the province yesterday.

The man also said he was persuading other red-shirt leaders in many provinces to help the government in those areas.

"The political conflict has not helped with the country's development. Even if there was an election now, the conflict would still exist and the country would not move forward," Jamroonsak said. "If things continue like this, the problem will not be over in the next 20 years."

He called on those involved in the conflict to compromise and "meet half-way".

He called on those involved in the conflict to compromise and "meet half-way".

The red-shirt leader said General Prayut should be given time to finish his work. He added that the prime minister, who led the coup in May last year while serving as the Army chief, has obtained more acceptance from the public now.

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

The UDD and its leaders are supporters of the Pheu Thai Party, which led the government before the military coup. Many of the UDD leaders are Pheu Thai politicians.

Jamroonsak asked to meet the prime minister in person during his visit to Ubon Ratchathani's Don Mod Daeng subdistrict to meet with local villagers.

General Prayut told the red-shirt leader that he should help the government. "You should have pity for ordinary people. You [political rivals] fight against each other but it's the ordinary people who suffer," he said. Jamroonsak responded that he was ready to help the government with national development.

The PM hugged him and asked, "Aren't you afraid they may scold you?" The red-shirt leader said, "No. I do this for the country."

Jamroonsak, earlier elected head of the UDD's Ubon Ratchathani chapter, was sentenced to three months in jail after a riot and arson attack on the province's City Hall in May 2010. After last year's coup, he was among the first in the northeastern province to be summoned for "attitude adjustment".

When former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra from the Pheu Thai Party visited Ubon Ratchathani recently, he was not among the people who came to greet her.

Prayut yesterday visited a village where the government's economic stimulus projects are being implemented successfully. Some 2,000 people were present to welcome him, under tight security.

The prime minister was accompanied during the trip by a number of his Cabinet members, including deputy premiers Somkid Jatusripitak and ACM Prajin Juntong, Interior Minister General Anupong Paochinda, PM's Office Minister Suwaphan Tanyuvardhana, Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister General Chatchai Sarikalya, Transport Minister Arkhom Termpitayapaisith, and Commerce Minister Apiradi Tantraporn.

At the military airport in Ubon Ratchathani, the PM and his entourage were greeted by the provincial governors of Ubon Ratchathani, Si Sa Ket, Yasothon and Amnat Charoen, as well as other local officials.

Prayut yesterday noted that ordinary protesters often ended up being punished for violating the law while protest leaders mostly could get away with it. He gave as an example a recent case in which red-shirt protesters were sentenced to between three and 13 years for taking part in an arson attack on Khon Kaen City Hall in 2010.

The PM maintained that the country's return to democracy would go on as planned in the post-coup road map. "But democracy must take care of all people, not just certain groups. That's real democracy," he said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Red-shirt-leader-offers-to-work-with-govt-30272830.html


-- The Nation 2015-11-13

[tbthailand]

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

[NongKhaiKid]

Work with the PM, what as, a sous chef ?

[torpedo1970]

"Jamroonsak, earlier elected head of the UDD's Ubon Ratchathani chapter, was sentenced to three months in jail after a riot and arson attack on the province's City Hall in May 2010. After last year's coup, he was among the first in the northeastern province to be summoned for "attitude adjustment"."

"attitude adjustment" worked.................

[waldroj]

The first faint glimmer of hope for reconciliation.

But, alas it didn't come from the junta!

Let's hope it can FINALLY start to materialise. Come on now junta, it's up to you to lead the show!

[Wilsonandson]

"Jamroonsak, earlier elected head of the UDD's Ubon Ratchathani chapter, was sentenced to three months in jail after a riot and arson attack on the province's City Hall in May 2010. After last year's coup, he was among the first in the northeastern province to be summoned for "attitude adjustment"."

"attitude adjustment" worked.................

The fear factor. Psycological torture works. Human Rights is vanishing day by day. No opposition to the peacemakers.

[EnglishJohn]

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

What is your solution then ?.

Pheu-Thai back in power with Thaksin at the helm. More massive corruption and maybe you get a bit ?.

Or a revolution where the 'Elite' get put up against a wall and shot ?. Sorry, but you are about 50 years too late. Communist revolutions went out of style not long after the Vietnam war and people realised it didn't work.

People who care about Thailand don't murder of their own people who dare protest against a disgrace like the amnesty bill.

People who care about Thailand know that the solution is a government who are not all dirty cronies who use Parliamentary majority to give their paying master a virtual dictatorship.

Please feel free to carry on 'not working' with the Junta. Everything is moving along much better without you. You will get your chance to vote for a responsible adult to represent you in due course. Let's hope you use that privilege more wisely next time.

[AGareth2]

hope the pm wasn't paid for his cooking

[LannaGuy]

staged nonsense

[does]

OK, so what is a true practical solution, taking into account Thai circumstance, history, etc. Remember, their are various forms of democrac: Sweden, Egypt, Myanmar.

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

[does]

Some would regard "staged nonsense" as the perfect definition of democracy.

staged nonsense

[seajae]

at last, a red shirt speaking sense. This has to be about all thais not just those that support thaksin, over the years thaksins operations have divided the country in his bid to rule them all his way. There is nothing wrong with seperate groups with different ideals but when they are simply there to push their leaders personal views and not to support the country as a whole the problems start. The terrorism of the reds needs to stop, it has been used as a political tool by the ptp/shins over the years for their own benefits and not the peoples, if this man can make the reds see the truth and realize they need to be there for the country and not just thaksin it will go a long way to healing Thailand. Of course all the tv reds/shin lovers will disagree, they refuse to see the truth or care about the country as a whole in case it upsets their own tiny world.

[The Deerhunter]

The first faint glimmer of hope for reconciliation.

But, alas it didn't come from the junta!

Let's hope it can FINALLY start to materialise. Come on now junta, it's up to you to lead the show!

The first faint glimmer of hope for reconciliation. And an unpaid endorsement for attitude adjustment??? If so, lets hope for more who also apparently had an IQ injection at the same time.

[tbthailand]

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

What is your solution then ?.

Pheu-Thai back in power with Thaksin at the helm. More massive corruption and maybe you get a bit ?.

Or a revolution where the 'Elite' get put up against a wall and shot ?. Sorry, but you are about 50 years too late. Communist revolutions went out of style not long after the Vietnam war and people realised it didn't work.

People who care about Thailand don't murder of their own people who dare protest against a disgrace like the amnesty bill.

People who care about Thailand know that the solution is a government who are not all dirty cronies who use Parliamentary majority to give their paying master a virtual dictatorship.

Please feel free to carry on 'not working' with the Junta. Everything is moving along much better without you. You will get your chance to vote for a responsible adult to represent you in due course. Let's hope you use that privilege more wisely next time.

for all your blustering, ...

who use Parliamentary majority to give their paying master a virtual dictatorship

Thailand once again has the real McCoy....

Now, once again, if you bothered to read my post, it would be obvious that I don't propose that Thaksin return to power in Thailand.... It's right there, go read it again.

And of course, if you ever understood any of my posts, you would know that my solution is a complete reform of the military with a constitution that keeps the military out of civil activities, ... political, business, etc...

But I have little hope if you can't understand the posts you reply to...

Finally, democracy, ... even in England ... is not about the government pre-selecting the people you are allowed to vote for, and it is a RIGHT, not a privilege.

Jeez, there was a good reason we kicked you guys out of North America....

[tbthailand]

OK, so what is a true practical solution, taking into account Thai circumstance, history, etc. Remember, their are various forms of democrac: Sweden, Egypt, Myanmar.

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

the most important change is to place the military under civilian control rather than to have the country under the boot of the military. A second essential change is elimination of Art 112 so that the country can actually discuss what kind of solutions they want...

After those two changes, then the rest could actually be up to the Thai people...

[Eric Loh]

OK, so what is a true practical solution, taking into account Thai circumstance, history, etc. Remember, their are various forms of democrac: Sweden, Egypt, Myanmar.

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

Myanmar now put Thailand democracy to shame. The powerful army chief Thein Sein is now a role model for democracy with his endorsement of the people mandate and respect of the election. He has vowed stable and smooth transition. Thailand is just the opposite with the disrespect of the people mandate and heavily skewed reforms and little to show for reconciliation. As TB said, military is never the solution but a problem and Myanmar is a good example. Countries are abandoning this feudal form of domination and in this highly connected age in information and trade, it holds back the country progress and potential.

[does]

I agree these two important are issues, but I asked for a "practical" solution. You propose civilian control over the military. How do we get to "civilian control"?

For those citing the Myanmar elections, if I am not mistaken, the military has "reserved" (?) 25% of the seats in parliament for ints own appointees.

OK, so what is a true practical solution, taking into account Thai circumstance, history, etc. Remember, their are various forms of democrac: Sweden, Egypt, Myanmar.

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

the most important change is to place the military under civilian control rather than to have the country under the boot of the military. A second essential change is elimination of Art 112 so that the country can actually discuss what kind of solutions they want...

After those two changes, then the rest could actually be up to the Thai people...

[Lupatria]

Who says the attitude adjustment does not work?

[ginjag]

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

What is your solution then ?.

Pheu-Thai back in power with Thaksin at the helm. More massive corruption and maybe you get a bit ?.

Or a revolution where the 'Elite' get put up against a wall and shot ?. Sorry, but you are about 50 years too late. Communist revolutions went out of style not long after the Vietnam war and people realised it didn't work.

People who care about Thailand don't murder of their own people who dare protest against a disgrace like the amnesty bill.

People who care about Thailand know that the solution is a government who are not all dirty cronies who use Parliamentary majority to give their paying master a virtual dictatorship.

Please feel free to carry on 'not working' with the Junta. Everything is moving along much better without you. You will get your chance to vote for a responsible adult to represent you in due course. Let's hope you use that privilege more wisely next time.

for all your blustering, ...

who use Parliamentary majority to give their paying master a virtual dictatorship

Thailand once again has the real McCoy....

Now, once again, if you bothered to read my post, it would be obvious that I don't propose that Thaksin return to power in Thailand.... It's right there, go read it again.

And of course, if you ever understood any of my posts, you would know that my solution is a complete reform of the military with a constitution that keeps the military out of civil activities, ... political, business, etc...

But I have little hope if you can't understand the posts you reply to...

Finally, democracy, ... even in England ... is not about the government pre-selecting the people you are allowed to vote for, and it is a RIGHT, not a privilege.

Jeez, there was a good reason we kicked you guys out of North America....

YOU kicked your own Native Americans in the teeth, So before the red indians where were you from ?? ha ha ha you forgot

[scorecard]

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

So, in your opinion, what is the solution?

[springheeled jack]

its good to see the pm getting out and about meeting the people even though hes under tight security, I believe and I am sure many more feel the same he should get all the people who are creating this conflict round the table and explain to them that the country will not move forward until they stop quarrelling .

[Krataiboy]

. . . he was among the first in the northeastern province to be summoned for "attitude adjustment".

Looks like it worked. Apparently doesn't bite his fingernails any more, either.

[h90]

as closer to the money as better....Maybe Khun Thaksin isn't paying at the moment

[nikmar]

He called on those involved in the conflict to compromise and "meet half-way".

Until now, I wasn't sure if the word "compromise" existed in the Thai language.

[JAG]

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

What is your solution then ?.

Pheu-Thai back in power with Thaksin at the helm. More massive corruption and maybe you get a bit ?.

Or a revolution where the 'Elite' get put up against a wall and shot ?. Sorry, but you are about 50 years too late. Communist revolutions went out of style not long after the Vietnam war and people realised it didn't work.

People who care about Thailand don't murder of their own people who dare protest against a disgrace like the amnesty bill.

People who care about Thailand know that the solution is a government who are not all dirty cronies who use Parliamentary majority to give their paying master a virtual dictatorship.

Please feel free to carry on 'not working' with the Junta. Everything is moving along much better without you. You will get your chance to vote for a responsible adult to represent you in due course. Let's hope you use that privilege more wisely next time.

for all your blustering, ...

who use Parliamentary majority to give their paying master a virtual dictatorship

Thailand once again has the real McCoy....

Now, once again, if you bothered to read my post, it would be obvious that I don't propose that Thaksin return to power in Thailand.... It's right there, go read it again.

And of course, if you ever understood any of my posts, you would know that my solution is a complete reform of the military with a constitution that keeps the military out of civil activities, ... political, business, etc...

But I have little hope if you can't understand the posts you reply to...

Finally, democracy, ... even in England ... is not about the government pre-selecting the people you are allowed to vote for, and it is a RIGHT, not a privilege.

Jeez, there was a good reason we kicked you guys out of North America....

Hey, we're not all like that you know, not by a long chalk.

Even the USA has its share of barking right wing nut jobs you know - there is even a chance you might elect one as President next year!

[Cuchulainn]

............When former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra from the Pheu Thai Party visited Ubon Ratchathani recently, he was not among the people who came to greet her............

Are the cracks beginning to appear?

[tuanku]

"The red-shirt leader said General Prayut should be given time to finish his work. He added that the prime minister, who led the coup in May last year while serving as the Army chief, has obtained more acceptance from the public now."

I would suggest that the Prayut and his Officers Club have passed the peak of their acceptance from the public some time ago and that the longer they continue demonstrating their incompetence and intransigence, the lower their approval rating will become and the more likely it gets that the general populace will elect another populist government if they do ever get a chance.

[Eric Loh]

............When former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra from the Pheu Thai Party visited Ubon Ratchathani recently, he was not among the people who came to greet her............

Are the cracks beginning to appear?

Wise of him to physically stay clear of Yingluck when you are marked and among the first to be hauled up for AA. At least he has the freedom to decide who he want to meet. Just imagine if he didn't said all those nice words and not turned out for Prayuth. That freedom not extended in this circumstance.

[tuanku]

People who care about Thailand - and are in a position to do anything about it (such as being Thai citizens and having the right to vote when it is not arbitrarily suspended) have any interest in what is said by foreign nationals on Thai Visa.

He said that he had no concern that his fellow UDD leaders would be angry with him for voicing his support of General Prayut.

pffft, that's because he is following Thaksin's appeasement strategy. A strategy which is absolutely doomed to fail and proof that Thaksin doesn't care about small-d democracy.

The people who really care about the future of Thailand know that the military is not the solution, but the problem and they don't try to "work with them".

What is your solution then ?.

Pheu-Thai back in power with Thaksin at the helm. More massive corruption and maybe you get a bit ?.

Or a revolution where the 'Elite' get put up against a wall and shot ?. Sorry, but you are about 50 years too late. Communist revolutions went out of style not long after the Vietnam war and people realised it didn't work.

People who care about Thailand don't murder of their own people who dare protest against a disgrace like the amnesty bill.

People who care about Thailand know that the solution is a government who are not all dirty cronies who use Parliamentary majority to give their paying master a virtual dictatorship.

Please feel free to carry on 'not working' with the Junta. Everything is moving along much better without you. You will get your chance to vote for a responsible adult to represent you in due course. Let's hope you use that privilege more wisely next time.

[Baerboxer]

............When former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra from the Pheu Thai Party visited Ubon Ratchathani recently, he was not among the people who came to greet her............

Are the cracks beginning to appear?

Maybe the money supply dried up?

Interestingly, it says he was elected as a red shirt leader for UR. That makes him different from the non elected "appointed" leaders who normally mouth off.

Maybe some of the red shirts and their leaders are waking up to the Shin cons.