Official: 2 Palestinians killed in clash with Israeli troops

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Official: 2 Palestinians killed in clash with Israeli troops

RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — A Palestinian health official says two Palestinians have been killed and three have been wounded in clashes with Israeli troops in the West Bank.

Health Ministry spokesman Mohammed Awawdeh says the Palestinians were killed at dawn Monday when Israeli troops entered the Qalandia refugee camp.

The Israeli military says troops entered Qalandia to demolish the home of a Palestinian who it says shot and killed an Israeli in the West Bank this summer.

The army says Palestinians opened fire at the forces who returned fire at the attackers.

The military says three "hits" were confirmed. It was unclear if a third Palestinian was killed. Palestinian officials say one Palestinian at the scene was taken into Israeli custody.

The military says hundreds of Palestinians attacked Israeli forces, throwing firebombs and rocks.


-- (c) Associated Press 2015-11-16

[OMGImInPattaya]

Collective punishment...more Zionist State war-crimes...BDS now!

[dexterm]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

[Ulysses G.]

Palestinian terrorists same-same ISIS terrorists. Wipe all Islamic terrorists out.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[OMGImInPattaya]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

Be prepared for the Zionist State to commit lots of additional crimes under the cover of the West's renewed "war on terror," and while the Western media is distracted elsewhere.

[dexterm]

Palestinian terrorists same-same ISIS terrorists. Wipe all Islamic terrorists out.

That is just blind bogotry. Palestinians are defending themselves against an illegal invading Israeli army that has been occupying their land for 67 years.

It's time Eurpopeans put pressure on Israel to obey international law.

[Ulysses G.]

 

It was not collective punishment

Only the homes of Philistines who are involved in terrorist acts are demolished

Hamas and ISIS have a lot in common, they are all Islamic terrorists. It was not collective punishment. It was JUSTICE. ​

[dexterm]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

It was not collective punishment

Only the homes of Philistines who are involved in terrorist acts are demolished

Three Palestinians killed fighting Israeli forces razing terrorist’s home

At the Kalandia camp north of Jerusalem, an Israeli force who arrived early Monday to demolish the home of the terrorist who murdered Danny Gonen was assaulted by hundreds of Palestinians with gunfire, fire bombs and large rocks. The force returned the fire, killing three Palestinians and injuring 20 and withdrew after completing the demolition.

What did the mother, father, and siblings of the alleged attacker do to deserve having their homes destroyed? That is collective punishment illegal under the Geneva Convention... and something that has never happened to fanatical Israeli Jewish terrorists. Double standards.

Civilized democratic countries don't behave that way.

[dexterm]

 

It was not collective punishment

Only the homes of Philistines who are involved in terrorist acts are demolished

Hamas and ISIS have a lot in common, they are all Islamic terrorists. It was not collective punishment. It was JUSTICE. ​

What is just about causing suffering to the innocent parents and siblings of an alleged attacker. That is simply terrorism perpetrated by the state.

I think israel's high moral ground just turned to quick sand.

[Ulysses G.]

Strike back at Islamic terrorists everywhere. Long live the Republic. Long live France!

[cooked]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

It was not collective punishment

Only the homes of Philistines who are involved in terrorist acts are demolished

Three Palestinians killed fighting Israeli forces razing terrorist’s home

At the Kalandia camp north of Jerusalem, an Israeli force who arrived early Monday to demolish the home of the terrorist who murdered Danny Gonen was assaulted by hundreds of Palestinians with gunfire, fire bombs and large rocks. The force returned the fire, killing three Palestinians and injuring 20 and withdrew after completing the demolition.

What did the mother, father, and siblings of the alleged attacker do to deserve having their homes destroyed? That is collective punishment illegal under the Geneva Convention... and something that has never happened to fanatical Israeli Jewish terrorists. Double standards.

Civilized democratic countries don't behave that way.

I believe that the families of noble martyrs of Islam receive cash if one of these treacherous brainwashed idiots actually does what he is daily exhorted to do on TV and gets killed. 'Palestine' or whatever it is wouldn't exist if the UN wasn't supporting them. Screw these suicidal half wits. Israel is fighting for its life and is the last outpost of civilisation on this part of the Mediterranean, good luck if they do manage to kill all the Jews as they constantly threaten to do, after that Europe will be even easier to take over than it appears to be now.

[Harveyg]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

Be prepared for the Zionist State to commit lots of additional crimes under the cover of the West's renewed "war on terror," and while the Western media is distracted elsewhere.

Be prepared for anti Semites to use PC names and find a way to bash Israel further.

[Harveyg]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

It was not collective punishment

Only the homes of Philistines who are involved in terrorist acts are demolished

Three Palestinians killed fighting Israeli forces razing terrorists home

At the Kalandia camp north of Jerusalem, an Israeli force who arrived early Monday to demolish the home of the terrorist who murdered Danny Gonen was assaulted by hundreds of Palestinians with gunfire, fire bombs and large rocks. The force returned the fire, killing three Palestinians and injuring 20 and withdrew after completing the demolition.

What did the mother, father, and siblings of the alleged attacker do to deserve having their homes destroyed? That is collective punishment illegal under the Geneva Convention... and something that has never happened to fanatical Israeli Jewish terrorists. Double standards.

Civilized democratic countries don't behave that way.

Double standards. That says it all. Applying western civilization to a middle eastern situation.

What makes you think that there are single standards that can work here? Who guarantees them? The naïveté of you people is only exceeded by those of you who are not do closeted antisemites.

[Chicog]

It's understandable that Israel will take the opportunity to do a bit of spring cleaning while Paris is fresh in everyone's mind and occupying most of the front pages/news cycles.

You'll be lucky if this actually makes any of the MSM.

[dexterm]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

It was not collective punishment

Only the homes of Philistines who are involved in terrorist acts are demolished

Three Palestinians killed fighting Israeli forces razing terrorist’s home

At the Kalandia camp north of Jerusalem, an Israeli force who arrived early Monday to demolish the home of the terrorist who murdered Danny Gonen was assaulted by hundreds of Palestinians with gunfire, fire bombs and large rocks. The force returned the fire, killing three Palestinians and injuring 20 and withdrew after completing the demolition.

What did the mother, father, and siblings of the alleged attacker do to deserve having their homes destroyed? That is collective punishment illegal under the Geneva Convention... and something that has never happened to fanatical Israeli Jewish terrorists. Double standards.

Civilized democratic countries don't behave that way.

Demolitions are the only thing the primitive arab mindset understands.

..or bullets.

Doesn't seem to be working though, does it. Just creates more bitterness,a desire for revenge and recruits. I believe Shin Bet have said the same. But Netanyahu and his right wing fanatical government gotta provide bread and circuses for the sheeple to get themselves re-elected.

Edited November 16, 2015 by dexterm

[dexterm]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

It was not collective punishment

Only the homes of Philistines who are involved in terrorist acts are demolished

Three Palestinians killed fighting Israeli forces razing terrorists home

At the Kalandia camp north of Jerusalem, an Israeli force who arrived early Monday to demolish the home of the terrorist who murdered Danny Gonen was assaulted by hundreds of Palestinians with gunfire, fire bombs and large rocks. The force returned the fire, killing three Palestinians and injuring 20 and withdrew after completing the demolition.

What did the mother, father, and siblings of the alleged attacker do to deserve having their homes destroyed? That is collective punishment illegal under the Geneva Convention... and something that has never happened to fanatical Israeli Jewish terrorists. Double standards.

Civilized democratic countries don't behave that way.

Double standards. That says it all. Applying western civilization to a middle eastern situation.

What makes you think that there are single standards that can work here? Who guarantees them? The naïveté of you people is only exceeded by those of you who are not do closeted antisemites.

Civilized western democracies do not occupy their neighbors land for 67 years, and inflict daily humiliations, beatings and murders on the Palestinians they are occupying.

It's simple. If Israel wants to join the family of civilised Western democracies, end the occupation and stop behaving badly.

The Middle Eastern situation as you call it is all Israel's creation. Israel also has the power to undo the mess it has made.

[OMGImInPattaya]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

Be prepared for the Zionist State to commit lots of additional crimes under the cover of the West's renewed "war on terror," and while the Western media is distracted elsewhere.

Be prepared for anti Semites to use PC names and find a way to bash Israel further.

Anti-Zionism does not equate with Antisemitism, however much you apologists would like the world to think so. Zionism is a political ideology, like National Socialism, while Semitism is an innate human characteristic. Nobody is born a Zionist...it is learned behavior; just like nobody was born a Nazi...they were taught to hate.

Edited November 16, 2015 by OMGImInPattaya

[cdnvic]

Some posts and posters removed. Calls for "wiping out" people will not be tolerated.

[Seastallion]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

It was on one of these threads recently. I recall a news article saying the Israeli authorities can not find evidence to convict the Jewish terrorist suspected of the fire-bomb.

No surprises, really.

[Goanna]

Please excuse me for not including quotes of every other post in this topic.

terrorists need to learn the hard way. Isral are happy to teach. Good o.

[Seastallion]

Please excuse me for not including quotes of every other post in this topic.

terrorists need to learn the hard way. Isral are happy to teach. Good o.

Someone occupies your home by force. Do you meekly accept it, or do you fight back?

If you fight back, do you do it openly against a superior force and thus achieve nothing but suicide, or by sneaky and devious ways?

If you choose to fight the superior occupying force by sneaky and "dastardly" ways, are you are terrorist or a freedom fighter?

Put it another way.

You're in a pub and a 130 kg 190 cm pure solid muscle Hell's Angel decides he wants your GF, and forcefully takes her, and you have nowhere to run or turn. You have no choice but to fight.

Do you eye-gouge and bite, use a bottle if handy, fight tooth and nail, or do you fight Queensburry Rules?

I can tell you, if my home was taken and my kids killed, and I had no hope of beating my opponent by any "fair" way, I would be using every dirty trick in the book, and unwritten ones too.

Edited November 17, 2015 by Seastallion

[Ulysses G.]

Only one problem.The ARABS started the violence in the first time and they vastly outnumbered the Jews back then. They got their butts kicked anyway and have been ever since. David defeats Goliath in modern times.

Edited November 17, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[dexterm]

Only one problem.The ARABS started the violence in the first time and they vastly outnumbered the Jews back then. They got their butts kicked anyway and have been ever since. David defeats Goliath in modern times.

Nonsense. Your pseudo history has been debunked many times in the past.

Zionism was founded in 1897 with the intention to establish a Jewish State. And you can't have a Jewish State unless you are the majority. So the existing Palestinian residents who far outnumbered Jews in the 1890s and still did so in the 1920 had to go. That's what Palestinian nationalists understood in the 1920s onwards, that a mainly European group of foreigners with wealthy backers was intent on displacing them. That's what they protested against and resisted in the 1920s onwards.

And the Palestinians were right, because that is exactly what the Zionist invaders have done, and they are still doing it today as in the OP, and that is why the Palestinians are still resisting.

[Ulysses G.]

And you can't have a Jewish State unless you are the majority.

You can if you only purchase a small amount of land for your state. The British gave away 3/4 of the Mandate for Palestine to the Arabs for Jordan, so that solved that and then the Arabs attacked the Jews anyway to get the rest of it. Too bad they got there <deleted> kicked, so it did not work out like they hoped for. They refused the UN deal, declared war, LOST a bunch of wars and any claim they had to more land and they are still LOSING..

Edited November 17, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[Linky]

Strike back at Islamic terrorists everywhere. Long live the Republic. Long live France!

Did you want to add a long live Lebanon into that? No thought not.

[dexterm]

And you can't have a Jewish State unless you are the majority.

You can if you only purchase a small amount of land for your state. The British gave away 3/4 of the Mandate for Palestine to the Arabs for Jordan, so that solved that and then the Arabs attacked the Jews anyway to get the rest of it. Too bad they got there <deleted> kicked, so it did not work out like they hoped for. They refused the UN deal, declared war, LOST a bunch of wars and any claim they had to more land and they are still LOSING..

Same old myth, although I see you have altered it now slightly. Previously you were claiming that the Jews had magnanimously surrendered 3/4 of the land you claim was promised to them, but of course you could not provide a link to that assertion when challenged. Transjordan was never promised to Jews. So you invent a new version of the great Israeli hoax: that they are somehow the victim, when they are in fact the aggressor.

Transjordan went to Jordanians as the British had promised, and that most certainly did not solve that.

That still left a large majority of Palestinians in Palestine proper west of the Jordan.

Even after the first waves of Jewish migrations 1890 - 1922, the Jewish population of Palestine was only 11% when the first census was taken, and they owned a mere 3% of the land

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/demograhics.html

What did the Zionists intend to do with the Palestinians? How could they have a Jewish State when they owned so little of the land and the majority were non Jewish...the only solution ...ethnically cleanse the resident Palestinians

Which they have almost successfully done, and they are still doing so in the OP.

Just because the bully wins, does not make it right.

Edited November 17, 2015 by dexterm

[Morch]

Can anyone tell me how many homes of fanatical Jewish colonist price tag terrorist gangs have been demolished as a collective punishment in that less than 2% of Palestinian complaints against them ever get investigated leading to convictions? Can anyone tell me if the price tag terrorist gang that burnt to death with a fire bomb a Palestinian family including an 18 month old in Duma a few weeks ago have been charged yet?

It seems to me Israeli authorities have got their priorities all wrong if they wish to lessen tensions in the West Bank...but maybe that is not their aim in the OP raid. Keep prodding, poking, stirring until you get a reaction and then Netanyahu will say "Whadda we do?"

The criticism directed at Israel in the first paragraph is well deserved. Even if it just another manifestation of a totally one sided point of view often expressed. A less biased observer might have had something to say about Palestinian actions which contrast with his proclaimed ideals of justice and proper conduct. Be that as it may, not a justification for the this Israeli policy of collective punishment and other transgressions of accepted norms. There's that fine line between fighting an enemy and becoming what one fights.

Where it goes wrong, as usual, is with the inane interpretation of the Israeli government's political motivation. The notion that this was a calculated move to elicit a response is a fantasy. At best, it is a nod toward public sentiment, especially (but not exclusively) of right wing voters. At worst, it is just another Pavlovian reaction without all that much though put into all possible consequences.

[Morch]

Palestinian terrorists same-same ISIS terrorists. Wipe all Islamic terrorists out.

Strike back at Islamic terrorists everywhere. Long live the Republic. Long live France!

Nope. Not all Palestinian terrorists are Islamist. Not all subscribe to ISIS ideology. So far ISIS does not win much support among Palestinians.

Wonder what would be the motivation to tie the two, considering Israel raging over the Swedish Foreign Minister's comment (off mark as it is) on parallels between the Paris attack and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israel-condemns-hostile-Swedish-comments-linking-Paris-attacks-to-Israeli-Palestinian-conflict-434249

http://www.ibtimes.com/sweden-connects-israel-paris-terror-attacks-relates-treatment-palestinians-violent-2186745

http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-attacks-live-updates/israel-responds-to-palestinian-remark-by-swedens-foreign-minister/

Far as I know Israel is not a republic, maybe save the long live France to one of the other topics?

[vogie]

Only one problem.The ARABS started the violence in the first time and they vastly outnumbered the Jews back then. They got their butts kicked anyway and have been ever since. David defeats Goliath in modern times.

You started it, no, you started it, my dad can fight your dad, have you really run out of anything constructive to say?

[Morch]

 

It was not collective punishment

Only the homes of Philistines who are involved in terrorist acts are demolished

Hamas and ISIS have a lot in common, they are all Islamic terrorists. It was not collective punishment. It was JUSTICE. ​

What is just about causing suffering to the innocent parents and siblings of an alleged attacker. That is simply terrorism perpetrated by the state.

I think israel's high moral ground just turned to quick sand.

But then again, you usually seem to be claiming that Israel doesn't have any moral ground to begin with.....