catman20 Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 That's sad, hard to imagine what caused her death at so young an age. Having a problem in 1 meter of water? ....... stand up. you beat me to it exactly stand up
Mot Dang Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 36 year old fit young women to not "get into difficulty" in one meter of water. Questions 1. Could the lady swim ? 2. Was she introduced to the safe use of Scuba gear within the confines of a swimming pool prior to being "dumped" into the ocean ? 3. Was the equipment used well maintained and "fit for purpose" 4. Did an instructor enter the water with or immediately before the lady ? These questions and probably more need to be answered. Condolences from me to the ladies husband and her family. . . All valid questions, and when I asked myself those same questions, one that you have not mentioned stood out, Was the air in the scuba tank contaminated ? Was the right gas mix used ? An unknown allergic reaction because of a contamination ? Oil vapor contamination ? Unlikely (?), but strange things do happen in this country, because there are rarely validated SOPs controlling basic operations in small private companies that run on a shoe-string budget.. The point you raise is covered in my post 3. Was the equipment used well maintained and "fit for purpose" fill the tanks . That includes the compressors used to fill the tanks ! NB No "gas mixes" are used in basic SCUBA diving ..........just plain , ordinary , air ! Thanks.
from the home of CC Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Poorly regulated diving companies are found anywhere that corruption abounds and that's a lot of places in this world. And some people have undiagnosed medical conditions. A lot of supposition going on here, most of it sounds like BS, especially when all the facts are not available.
Mudcrab Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Maybe she was in a depth of one metre of water...with thirty metres below her...that would make it hard to stand up, not to mention tearing the bottom out of the hull of the dive boat.
KarenBravo Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Having run a compressor for diving, I can categorically state no way.You poison one fill, you poison them all. And I would fill 30 tanks at a time.Can't see just one victim happening ever. Not to mention, CO poisoning is obvious, blue lips and fingernails, about 2 seconds to diagnose. Oh dear.......thank God you're not a doctor. The symptoms for carbon monoxide poisoning is CHERRY RED lips and nails. You learn this in every PADI course. What you describe is Hypoxia. A lack of sufficient oxygen (not involving carbon monoxide). Edited November 20, 2015 by KarenBravo
derator01 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 A post violating forum rules has been removed from view. 7) You will respect fellow members and post in a civil manner. No personal attacks, hateful or insulting towards other members, (flaming) Stalking of members on either the forum or via PM will not be allowed.
MaeJoMTB Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Having run a compressor for diving, I can categorically state no way. You poison one fill, you poison them all. And I would fill 30 tanks at a time. Can't see just one victim happening ever. Not to mention, CO poisoning is obvious, blue lips and fingernails, about 2 seconds to diagnose. Oh dear.......thank God you're not a doctor. The symptoms for carbon monoxide poisoning is CHERRY RED lips and nails. You learn this in every PADI course. What you describe is Hypoxia. A lack of sufficient oxygen (not involving carbon monoxide). Thanks for the correction KB, it is of course blue for no oxygen, red for carbon monoxide. So that's 2 more causes of death ruled out, along with not a PFO.
AGLV0121 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 If /really/ one meter depth, then hypothermic shock; - or a jellyfish. Otherwise as someone here mentioned, rapid ascension without exhaling blocks air exhaust and that's the end. Bends are another story, they happened after deep dive and Nitrogen forming bubbles in the blood (champagne) FWIW
simon43 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 And I'm just saying that that stress might then cause existing but hidden health problems to come to the fore. Indeed, and those health problems could perhaps have been triggered by any other stressful situation, such as bungy jumping, paragliding etc. RIP
NCC1701A Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) RIP young bride. hello all divers, when was the last time you went diving in one meter of water? even as a beginner diver, you are in a pool, then the ocean, maybe in a calm spot maybe 20-40 feet deep. but maybe this was the first course, in the ocean in very shallow water. anyway, you get in the water, inflate your BC and wait for your instructor on the surface. but lets say she was in 1 meter of water. maybe a shallow beach and then paddle out to deeper water. then she must have been breathing from the tank, maybe for a few minutes, and collapsed. or she was much deeper and panicked and held her breath as she returned to the surface. it is possible she had some sort of preexisting condition. they had problems like this in Mexico years ago. exhaust fumes from the compressor filling the tanks would be sucked into the air intake. weird only her tank? Edited November 21, 2015 by NCC1701A
ableguy Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 36 year old fit young women to not "get into difficulty" in one meter of water. Questions 1. Could the lady swim ? 2. Was she introduced to the safe use of Scuba gear within the confines of a swimming pool prior to being "dumped" into the ocean ? 3. Was the equipment used well maintained and "fit for purpose" 4. Did an instructor enter the water with or immediately before the lady ? These questions and probably more need to be answered. Condolences from me to the ladies husband and her family. Get real , this is Thailand. . .
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