Thai Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

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Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail
The Nation

Lawyer for man says it's impossible for inmate to be part of conspiracy

BANGKOK: -- An inmate accused of being part of an alleged plot to launch an attack during next month's Bike for Dad cycling event in Bangkok yesterday filed a lawsuit against senior police and military officers for issuing an arrest warrant against him while he is in jail.

Benjarat Meethian, a lawyer for inmate Thanakrit Thonggernperm, lodged a petition with the Crime Suppression Bureau in Bangkok against deputy national police chief Pol General Sriwara Ransibrah-manakul and Maj-General Wicharn Chottaeng, chief of the National Council for Peace and Order. He has accused them of malfeasance.

Thanakrit, 49, has been accused of plotting to create unrest and attack key government figures during the event.

But his lawyer said that was impossible - because Thanakrit was in jail.

Last week, police issued warrants for the arrest of Thanakrit and

other suspects over the alleged plot. Police said that they obtained information from two suspects, Prathin Chanket and Nattaphol Nawanlay, who were arrested last week, that at least nine people were involved in the plot.

Benjarat said it was not easy for an inmate like Thanakrit to have contact with the outside world, let alone plot to create chaos in the capital or attack a government VIP.

"I believe that the Khon Kaen prison [where he is held] does not allow political prisoners who were charged with lese majeste to contact outsiders to plot such a crime," she said.

Thanakrit was jailed after a trial where he faced many charges including lese majeste in accordance with Article 112 of the Penal Code, computer crimes and for forging an official document.

He was also charged over his involvement in political activities including the so-called "Khon Kaen Model" - a plan to cause unrest in the Northeast.

"It's impossible for him to commit other crimes from the prison. He was even under the close surveillance of the military and the lawyer could see him only under special conditions," Benjarat said.

Police in the team investigating the case said that Thanakrit contacted other suspects including Prathin via telephone.

But Benjarat said she did not believe her client managed to make telephone calls.

She said Thanakrit admitted he knew some of the suspects in the case but had not contacted them since he was jailed last year.

Benjarat accused the senior officers of malfeasance in accordance with the articles 137, 157, 172, 173, 174 and 179 of the Penal Code, alleging they charged her client based on false evidence and using their positions to create trouble for him.

The government and the junta have been criticised for targeting suspects in the alleged plot to try to divert public attention from the scandal over the construction of Rajabhakti Park. Many senior officials in the government, the NCPO, the military and police have been accused of involvement in the scandal.

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha and his deputy Prawit Wongsuwan refute that.

Prime Minister Prayut is in Paris for an international confer-ence on climate change, while cyclists and officials yesterday did a rehearsal for the December 11 Bike for Dad event in the capital and the provinces.

More than 10,000 security personnel will be mobilised in the capital alone for the event.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Police-and-NCPO-sued-by-plotter-still-in-jail-30273967.html


-- The Nation 2015-11-30

[halloween]

A convicted political agitator giving evidence on the efficiency and complete lack of corruption in the Thai prison service should do wonders for their credibility, if not for his.

[NongKhaiKid]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

[smedly]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

This just highlights exactly why the justice system in Thailand is still in the Dark ages and needs urgent reform, police seem to operate a system of "if we say it is true then it is" this man is innocent until the police can produce evidense that says otherwise, simple as that, I have no doubt this guy is in jail for good reason and is the best place for him but at the end of the day there should be no need for this nonesense of police being sued and quoting various articles, either present the case in court with the evidense or enough of this lunacy.

Oh and I don't accept the excuse being in jail means he could not be involved, as already mentioned above there are very likely high ranking drug dealers running their operations from prisons in Thailand

[harada]

So what will it be suicide or a rare blood disorder ?

[tbthailand]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

[smutcakes]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

Hes a low level political agitator not Pablo bloody Escobar!

[bkkcanuck8]

Sounds like an illusionist being caught out by not planning properly.

It is a pretty standard practice for politicians to try and change the news when embroiled in a scandal.... so it is not a surprise they would dig something up from a year ago and try to recycle it as a plot today to try and change the current news focus on the scandal. Unfortunately they did not realize one of those that were part of the the "plot" that they are trying to recycle was out of commission.

Does anyone really believe that the "plotters" would use the Bike for Dad event? Not likely -- too close to an institution that no Thai in their right mind would disrupt.... since that in itself would lose them the propaganda war - and would be completely self-destructive.

[aussieinthailand]

So what will it be suicide or a rare blood disorder ?

It's like this judge, after beating himself to a pulp while handcuffed he somehow made it passed several locked gates and threw himself off the roof of the gaol,

[chainarong]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

This just highlights exactly why the justice system in Thailand is still in the Dark ages and needs urgent reform, police seem to operate a system of "if we say it is true then it is" this man is innocent until the police can produce evidense that says otherwise, simple as that, I have no doubt this guy is in jail for good reason and is the best place for him but at the end of the day there should be no need for this nonesense of police being sued and quoting various articles, either present the case in court with the evidense or enough of this lunacy.

Oh and I don't accept the excuse being in jail means he could not be involved, as already mentioned above there are very likely high ranking drug dealers running their operations from prisons in Thailand

Unless they used carrier pigeons, all the RTP need to do is check the mobile transmissions from people in direct contact with the accused, over that period

[Baerboxer]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

Hes a low level political agitator not Pablo bloody Escobar!

Do you think the prison service is any less corrupt than the police, civil service, military or political hierarchy?

What ever anybody gets and how they're treated is based on how much they can pay. Just like everything else in the justice system.

[NongKhaiKid]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

Hes a low level political agitator not Pablo bloody Escobar!

With the mentality displayed by the junta I'd suggest they'd look at a low level agitator as more dangerous than any Pablo Escobar.

In any case Thailand's Escobar look a likes tend to be well connected.

[EnglishJohn]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

Which bit are you having trouble with ?. Let me help:

This guy is on a list as a member of the red-shirt terrorist group. Someone got caught and implicated the group. So they issued arrest warrants for all of the known members.

Whoever did it was obviously unaware that this particular scumbag was already in prison.

It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day.

Quite how anyone can sue for someone issuing an arrest warrant I don't know. Being arrested simply means you are taken in for questioning. If they don't charge you they will let you go.

But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven. Then ignore it completely and deny the next thing. And repeat. And repeat. Just like the terrorist murders of 30 protesters. Who did that again ?.

[Srikcir]

When you can be arrested for having "thoughts" it doesn't matter where you might be. When you're accused of having "criminal" thoughts based on the "thoughts" of others, there is no defense as minds have already been made up and you're guilty.

Nothing new in the day of the NCPO reformation of justice. Or what other democractic countries might call a travesty of justice.

[smutcakes]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

Hes a low level political agitator not Pablo bloody Escobar!

Do you think the prison service is any less corrupt than the police, civil service, military or political hierarchy?

What ever anybody gets and how they're treated is based on how much they can pay. Just like everything else in the justice system.

I kinow they are corrupt, i just think it is highly dubious that this person has the funds, means, connections, to be running/organizing this activity from behind bars!

If he was that connected and powerful to run operations from behind bars, you would of thought they were actually aware he was even in prison!

[MZurf]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

Which bit are you having trouble with ?. Let me help:

This guy is on a list as a member of the red-shirt terrorist group. Someone got caught and implicated the group. So they issued arrest warrants for all of the known members.

Whoever did it was obviously unaware that this particular scumbag was already in prison.

It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day.

Quite how anyone can sue for someone issuing an arrest warrant I don't know. Being arrested simply means you are taken in for questioning. If they don't charge you they will let you go.

But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven. Then ignore it completely and deny the next thing. And repeat. And repeat. Just like the terrorist murders of 30 protesters. Who did that again ?.

"It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day."

Now, now John, there's no reason to insult people just because they state an obvious fact not to your liking.

"But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven."

John, isn't this person innocent until proven guilty? Good thing that they do lynch mobs in this country (although they do seem to do it on the sly in jail) or you would be one of the howling dogs demanding blood, John. Tsk, Tsk!

[sharecropper]

Surely some kind of a record, even here - Fitted up twice about a pathetic Khmer Rouge-style "Enemies in the East" plot by a hapless, failing, clueless government.

[NongKhaiKid]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

Which bit are you having trouble with ?. Let me help:

This guy is on a list as a member of the red-shirt terrorist group. Someone got caught and implicated the group. So they issued arrest warrants for all of the known members.

Whoever did it was obviously unaware that this particular scumbag was already in prison.

It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day.

Quite how anyone can sue for someone issuing an arrest warrant I don't know. Being arrested simply means you are taken in for questioning. If they don't charge you they will let you go.

But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven. Then ignore it completely and deny the next thing. And repeat. And repeat. Just like the terrorist murders of 30 protesters. Who did that again ?.

This goes far beyond a mistake, issuing a warrant for someone in prison is stupidity and incompetence. Didn't they check his whereabouts or was it a rush to get publicity and arrogance that won out ?

[apetley]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

Which bit are you having trouble with ?. Let me help:

This guy is on a list as a member of the red-shirt terrorist group. Someone got caught and implicated the group. So they issued arrest warrants for all of the known members.

Whoever did it was obviously unaware that this particular scumbag was already in prison.

It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day.

Quite how anyone can sue for someone issuing an arrest warrant I don't know. Being arrested simply means you are taken in for questioning. If they don't charge you they will let you go.

But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven. Then ignore it completely and deny the next thing. And repeat. And repeat. Just like the terrorist murders of 30 protesters. Who did that again ?.

One must wonder as to what investigative work, if any, went on subsequent to the inmate being implicated as even the most basic of checks would have thrown up the fact he had been incarcerated since last year.

[FangFerang]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

This just highlights exactly why the justice system in Thailand is still in the Dark ages and needs urgent reform, police seem to operate a system of "if we say it is true then it is" this man is innocent until the police can produce evidense that says otherwise, simple as that, I have no doubt this guy is in jail for good reason and is the best place for him but at the end of the day there should be no need for this nonesense of police being sued and quoting various articles, either present the case in court with the evidense or enough of this lunacy.

Oh and I don't accept the excuse being in jail means he could not be involved, as already mentioned above there are very likely high ranking drug dealers running their operations from prisons in Thailand

Did you take your self-contradiction pills again?

"This just highlights exactly why the justice system in Thailand is still in the Dark ages and needs urgent reform, police seem to operate a system of "if we say it is true then it is" this man is innocent until the police can produce evidense that says otherwise, simple as that, I have no doubt this guy is in jail for good reason and is the best place for him"

[cockatoowho]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

Which bit are you having trouble with ?. Let me help:

This guy is on a list as a member of the red-shirt terrorist group. Someone got caught and implicated the group. So they issued arrest warrants for all of the known members.

Whoever did it was obviously unaware that this particular scumbag was already in prison.

It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day.

Quite how anyone can sue for someone issuing an arrest warrant I don't know. Being arrested simply means you are taken in for questioning. If they don't charge you they will let you go.

But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven. Then ignore it completely and deny the next thing. And repeat. And repeat. Just like the terrorist murders of 30 protesters. Who did that again ?.

Do you practice to be this obnoxious or does it come naturally? We are in Thailand are we not, where people relentlessly sue people for a myriad and strangely pathetic reasons, nothing new; glad I could help you with that. Now help me with this, why is it that every post you make is exactly the same, a mixture of gutter garbage and childish banter? Just once can you actually post something with an inkling of intelligence, that is of course if you have the intellect to understand something more than a child’s comic book.

[arrowsdawdle]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

Which bit are you having trouble with ?. Let me help:

This guy is on a list as a member of the red-shirt terrorist group. Someone got caught and implicated the group. So they issued arrest warrants for all of the known members.

Whoever did it was obviously unaware that this particular scumbag was already in prison.

It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day.

Quite how anyone can sue for someone issuing an arrest warrant I don't know. Being arrested simply means you are taken in for questioning. If they don't charge you they will let you go.

But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven. Then ignore it completely and deny the next thing. And repeat. And repeat. Just like the terrorist murders of 30 protesters. Who did that again ?.

Ho-hum, yet another press release for the coup meisters.

[JAG]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

Hes a low level political agitator not Pablo bloody Escobar!

Do you think the prison service is any less corrupt than the police, civil service, military or political hierarchy?

What ever anybody gets and how they're treated is based on how much they can pay. Just like everything else in the justice system.

I kinow they are corrupt, i just think it is highly dubious that this person has the funds, means, connections, to be running/organizing this activity from behind bars!

If he was that connected and powerful to run operations from behind bars, you would of thought they were actually aware he was even in prison!

If he was that wealthy, well connected and powerful I doubt he would be in prison in the first place!

[oneday]

Normal everyday citizen in jail versus the Police and NCPO...I guess we know who is going to win that battle. The later writes the rules.

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

him and his lawyer are likely following the lead of their paymaster. This is clearly a move right out of his playbook. Get charged with a crime and start suing to create a smoke screen and delay the process.

[jesimps]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

This just highlights exactly why the justice system in Thailand is still in the Dark ages and needs urgent reform, police seem to operate a system of "if we say it is true then it is" this man is innocent until the police can produce evidense that says otherwise, simple as that, I have no doubt this guy is in jail for good reason and is the best place for him but at the end of the day there should be no need for this nonesense of police being sued and quoting various articles, either present the case in court with the evidense or enough of this lunacy.

Oh and I don't accept the excuse being in jail means he could not be involved, as already mentioned above there are very likely high ranking drug dealers running their operations from prisons in Thailand

So you'd condemn him because, in your expert opinion, other people are 'very likely' drug dealing from prison. Nothing to do with him being a PTP supporter and you a junta groupy of course. God forbid you ever get called up for jury service.

[jesimps]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

Which bit are you having trouble with ?. Let me help:

This guy is on a list as a member of the red-shirt terrorist group. Someone got caught and implicated the group. So they issued arrest warrants for all of the known members.

Whoever did it was obviously unaware that this particular scumbag was already in prison.

It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day.

Quite how anyone can sue for someone issuing an arrest warrant I don't know. Being arrested simply means you are taken in for questioning. If they don't charge you they will let you go.

But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven. Then ignore it completely and deny the next thing. And repeat. And repeat. Just like the terrorist murders of 30 protesters. Who did that again ?.

Do you practice to be this obnoxious or does it come naturally? We are in Thailand are we not, where people relentlessly sue people for a myriad and strangely pathetic reasons, nothing new; glad I could help you with that. Now help me with this, why is it that every post you make is exactly the same, a mixture of gutter garbage and childish banter? Just once can you actually post something with an inkling of intelligence, that is of course if you have the intellect to understand something more than a childs comic book.

C'mon, this is EJ the master WUM. You don't think he believes this nonsense he spews out do you? No one could be that stupid.

[tbthailand]

Police and NCPO sued by 'plotter' still in jail

Re: khon kaen plots and the like, if there is anyone out there who still doesn't realize that this self-appointed "PM" and his "government" just makes this stuff up, then please step forward...

Which bit are you having trouble with ?. Let me help:

This guy is on a list as a member of the red-shirt terrorist group. Someone got caught and implicated the group. So they issued arrest warrants for all of the known members.

Whoever did it was obviously unaware that this particular scumbag was already in prison.

It's called a mistake. You should know what that is : I expect you make many every day.

Quite how anyone can sue for someone issuing an arrest warrant I don't know. Being arrested simply means you are taken in for questioning. If they don't charge you they will let you go.

But carry on with the usual denial right up until something is proven. Then ignore it completely and deny the next thing. And repeat. And repeat. Just like the terrorist murders of 30 protesters. Who did that again ?.

you really like military juntas, don't you?

go ahead and research the khon kaen model and you'll find that it is a fabrication of the junta in the first place.

as for proven and not proven, this junta alone has already a long record of jailing people for zippo, having people just disappear, having others not disappear but just die while in their custody, never an investigation, bodies cremated immediately, they have dished out the longest LM sentences in the history of Thailand from their military courts, then there is the nearly banal censorship and daily assault on basic human rights.. not to mention they run some of the most corrupt schemes while claiming to "clean up" corruption, ...

Oh yeah, your terrorist murders of the 30 protesters, really, you should educate yourself about how many and who were killed. Not that the PDRC killed anyone, used grenades, got into gunfights, assaulted people or anything of the sort, right???

PS; thanks for "stepping forward"... should have known that you would...

[smedly]

There's no reason why someone in prison can't be involved in matters outside, just look at drug syndicates, BUT if he's being held with no contact to the outside world the authorities have another problem because it must mean some prison officials are involved in passing messages.

Of course at times and for certain cases the govt never seems worried about having to prove anything.

This just highlights exactly why the justice system in Thailand is still in the Dark ages and needs urgent reform, police seem to operate a system of "if we say it is true then it is" this man is innocent until the police can produce evidense that says otherwise, simple as that, I have no doubt this guy is in jail for good reason and is the best place for him but at the end of the day there should be no need for this nonesense of police being sued and quoting various articles, either present the case in court with the evidense or enough of this lunacy.

Oh and I don't accept the excuse being in jail means he could not be involved, as already mentioned above there are very likely high ranking drug dealers running their operations from prisons in Thailand

So you'd condemn him because, in your expert opinion, other people are 'very likely' drug dealing from prison. Nothing to do with him being a PTP supporter and you a junta groupy of course. God forbid you ever get called up for jury service.

that is not what I said, I clearly stated that police need to produce evidence for these new charges, the guy is in jail already - best place for him IMO

[Thai at Heart]

They issued an arrest warrant for someone already in jail.... Lol