webfact Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 US Downgrades Thai Air Safety RatingBy Todd RuizEditorSuvarnabhumi International Airport in Bangkok in an undated file photo. Photo: MatichonWASHINGTON — Civil aviation officials in the United States have ruled Thailand does not comply with international safety standards.Following warnings earlier this year and inspections last month, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration this evening announced it had demoted Thailand to "Category 2," which will prevent Thai airlines from adding any new services in the United States.Category 2 is assigned to nations which "lacks laws or regulations necessary to oversee air carriers in accordance with minimum international standards" or is "deficient in one or more areas, such as technical expertise, trained personnel, record-keeping, or inspection procedures," according to an FAA announcement.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1448977331&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2015-12-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 THAI unaffected by US downgradeThe Nation BANGKOK: -- Thai Airways International said it is spared from negative impacts to derive from the US aviation regulator's decision.The US Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) decided to downgrade Civil Aviation Administration of Thailand (CAAT) status from Category I to Category II. The new status means that all airlines certified by the Thai aviation authorities are unable to increase flights or operate to new destinations in the United States.THAI President Charamporn Jotikasthira said in a statement that THAI has operated no flight to the US, after the termination of its Bangkok-Los Angeles route on October 25."THAI confirms its commitment to aviation safety standards, and assures all that THAI operates with the highest international aviation safety standards," he said.The FAA's move is a blow to the Thai aviation authorities which have been criticised of lax safety standards. It was believed that its decision would encourage the authorities in other countries to impose strict rules on Thai airlines.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/THAI-unaffected-by-US-downgrade-30274148.html-- The Nation 2015-12-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 AVIATION'Little progress seen' on aviation safety woesSuchat SritamaThe NationThai Airways aircraft are parked on the tarmac at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi International Airport./ReutersBANGKOK: -- A major airline operator has expressed frustration over poor aviation safety management, claiming that it is still facing difficulties expanding its services, particularly to Japan and other places in East Asia.Thai AirAsia X, one of the major low-cost carriers in Thailand, has not seen any progress as claimed by some authorities, said Tassapon Bijleveld, chief executive officer of Thai AirAsia, who is also supervises Thai AirAsia X."I don't know why this problem cannot be solved. It should not take long," he said.The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) is expected to announce results of an investigation of aviation safety in Thailand after it met with high-ranking officials overseas recently.A source from the aviation industry said that if the ICAO is unable to give a green light to Thailand, more airlines would be unable to expand their networks.The European Aviation Safety Agency is also eyeing Thailand's aviation problems.Yesterday, the US Department of Transportation’s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) resolved that Thailand has not complied with ICAO’s safety standards. It thus assigned a Category II status to Civil Aviation Administration of Thailand (CAAT). The new status means that all airlines certified by the Thai aviation authorities are unable to increase flights or operate to new destinations in the United States.The FAA's move is a blow to the Thai aviation authorities which have been criticised of lax safety standards. It was believed that its decision would encourage the authorities in other countries to impose strict rules on Thai airlines.Thai Airways International President Charamporn Jotikasthira said in a statement that the airline is spared from negative impacts. THAI has operated no flight to the US, after the termination of its Bangkok-Los Angeles route on October 25."THAI confirms its commitment to aviation safety standards, and assures all that THAI operates with the highest international aviation safety standards," he said.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Little-progress-seen-on-aviation-safety-woes-30274149.html-- The Nation 2015-12-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 " I don't know why this problem cannot be solved, it should not take long. " I'm sure many can supply an answer with TIT right up there. Three initials that can mean and explain so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessi Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Another nail in the Thai coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Another nail in the Thai coffin. Exactly and how many other countries, groupings like the EU etc are now preparing their hammer and nails ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The more foreign restrictions placed on thais the better Imo... I hope they will farang countries will adopt xenophobia towards thais, dual pricing and our immigration should treat them like criminals and make them jump through hoops.... Changing the hoops at least every year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 USFAA downgrades Thai aviation industryBANGKOK: -- Thailand’s aviation industry is dealt a devastating blow after the US Federal Aviation Administration has downgraded the aviation sector. In a statement posted on the USFAA website on Tuesday, the US regulator said that a reassessment in July 2015 found Thailand did not meet international standards.“Today’s announcement follows ongoing discussions with the government of Thailand which concluded on October 28, “ the statement added.Thailand had been rated on Category One since 1997. This status allowed Thai-registered airlines to fly to the US and launch new services.The USFAA’s decision means Thailand has dropped to Category Two which means Thai carriers will be subjected to service curtailments or outright ban not only in the US, but also Europe and Asia.FAA said with the Category Two rating, Thai airliners can continue existing service to the US but will not be allowed to establish new service to the US.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/usfaa-downgrades-thai-aviation-industry -- Thai PBS 2015-12-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Lets wait and see....I think constant pressure from the outside will eventually lead to increased transportation safety. Not only airlines, but rail, busses, commercial vans and highway safety. Airlines are only a small sector of the transportation problem here. Beautiful country and people...just need some higher standards when dealing with tourism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Thailand Aviation Downgraded by US Federal Aviation AdministrationBY JACOB MASLOWPhuket, Thailand - October 25, 2014: AirAsia plane takes off from Phuket Airport. AirAsia group operates scheduled domestic and international flights to 100 destinations spanning 22 countriesBANGKOK: -- Thailand aviation sector has been downgraded by the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Tuesday. The downgrade may result in a ripple effect, with bans occurring around the world for Thailand airlines.In July 2015, the assessment was made that indicated Thailand did not meet international regulations for flight. The FAA has reassessed the situation, finding that the country still does not meet the standards needed for safe flights.Discussions with Thailand authorities ended on October 28. Thailand was previously a Category 1 airliner and has since been downgraded to Category 2 by the FAA. Thailand was a Category 1 operator since 1997, which allowed the country to operate flights in the United States and launch new services.Full story: http://ethailand.com/business-news/thailand-aviation-downgraded-by-us-federal-aviation-administration/560/-- eThailand 2015-12-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Good to know the beer bars and drunken parties that the inspectors were subjected to did not cause the report from being changed. Viva Obama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 "I don't know why this problem cannot be solved. It should not take long," he said. Read that article about Thai lawyers protesting against letting foreigners practice law here and then have a talk with your Labour Ministry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 How is this possible? There were many officials who were confident Thailand would pass all tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 How is this possible? There were many officials who were confident Thailand would pass all tests. You have just answered your question - Thai officials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 bizarre ... FAA: THAI has a problem THAI: we have no problem & we operate with the highest international standards THAI: and even if we didn't, it's still not a problem because we canceled our only flight to America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 EU inspectors announce their decision on 15th Dec and it will be very surprising if they don't go the same way as FAA - historically in this region once one regulator downgrades then others follow suit eventually as happenned with Indonesia and Philippines. Useful piece of analysis from SCB a few months back on likely consequences: https://www.scbeic.com/en/detail/product/1359 Biggest issue will be how the Junta react to this huge loss face in the international arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 EU inspectors announce their decision on 15th Dec and it will be very surprising if they don't go the same way as FAA - historically in this region once one regulator downgrades then others follow suit eventually as happenned with Indonesia and Philippines. Useful piece of analysis from SCB a few months back on likely consequences: https://www.scbeic.com/en/detail/product/1359 Biggest issue will be how the Junta react to this huge loss face in the international arena. Biggest issue will be how the Junta react to this huge loss face in the international arena. they will stick their pea-brain dinosaur heads in the sand, flail their arms wildly and scream through their a..es that it is all the falangs' fault... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Thai Airways will suffer no ill effects bc they stopped flying to the US a few weeks ago. Great logic. They don't suffer any ill effects from a shit aviation regulator right!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 US Downgrades Thai Air Safety Rating By Todd Ruiz Editor Suvarnabhumi International Airport in Bangkok in an undated file photo. Photo: Matichon WASHINGTON Civil aviation officials in the United States have ruled Thailand does not comply with international safety standards....... Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1448977331&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2015-12-02 Careful, US boys, your airlines will soon be banned from Thailand's international airports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 How dare they !! downgrade us. We are THAI. We will commit murder before we lose face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usernames Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 This is a pity. Back during the Vietnam War and after, Thailand had developed some of the best aviation standards in the region. I know some of those guys that are still around, from the Thai and American side. They were professionals, mainly because the US had egalitarian standards in their training and maintenance programs as well as flight training programs. But all that has gone to hell in a handbasket today. Oh, well, at least Thailand can fly back and forth to China. But THIS entire event is a concrete demonstration of the costs of Thailand ditching its American patron for a Chinese one. A very bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 How is this possible? There were many officials who were confident Thailand would pass all tests. Thailand: Hub of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 There appears to be only eight Category 2 countries on the FAA list ( www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/iasa/media/iasaws.xlsx) out of a total of circa 90 listed, with such outstanding compatriots as Bangladesh, Ghana, Indonesia ....... Well done Thailand, fortunately (for you) there is no Category 3 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedivezone Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 EU inspectors announce their decision on 15th Dec and it will be very surprising if they don't go the same way as FAA - historically in this region once one regulator downgrades then others follow suit eventually as happenned with Indonesia and Philippines. Useful piece of analysis from SCB a few months back on likely consequences: https://www.scbeic.com/en/detail/product/1359 Biggest issue will be how the Junta react to this huge loss face in the international arena. Junta is far to busy prosecuting LM "offenders" and consolidating it's own power base to concern themselves with minor issues like aviation security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The screw is slowly being turned...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usernames Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I guess this means another protest in front of the US embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedivezone Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I guess this means another protest in front of the US embassy. The monks are chanting as we speak . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) " I don't know why this problem cannot be solved, it should not take long. " I'm sure many can supply an answer with TIT right up there. Three initials that can mean and explain so much. Here's a thought. Stop automatically promoting the longest serving person or the oldest person to 99% of jobs in the various organizations and within Thai, because the ultimate result is that 99% of top and mid management, and junior management / supervisory positions are filled by unqualified, incapable, inexperienced, disinterested and lazy people who can't conceptualize and implement better / more efficient / revenue generating ideas, they also block reforms. Edited December 2, 2015 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael8511 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The announcement from Thai Airways executives that more or less they don't care what FAA say since they stopped fly to USA October 25 and are not affected by the negative impact it have. I have always liked Thai and their service, but after this statement I will not fly with Thai anymore. I can't understand why Thai don't fix the problems instead of ignoring this time after time. Maybe the day when they are forbidden to fly to EU and some of the Asian countries they will wake up. Now with aircrafts that use less fuel then the Airbus 340 Thai could have had a market in the US. It's just unfair that the goverment in Thailand can't take air safety seriously, Ait Asia X like to expand their flights and they could be a good addition to Norwegians low cost flights now when Norwegian start Asian flights from London in addition to the Bangkok flights from Scandinavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog57 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The more foreign restrictions placed on thais the better Imo... I hope they will farang countries will adopt xenophobia towards thais, dual pricing and our immigration should treat them like criminals and make them jump through hoops.... Changing the hoops at least every year.... The restrictions for air safety and roads needs to be revamped 100% also graft in government and police ect, but i know we jump through hoops at immigration at times but if we had half the rule in the UK as they have here in thailand we would not have the problems we have in the uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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