waldroj Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 bazza40 THAI used to fly 747's from BKK to CNX. I did the trip a couple of times about 15 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensisaket Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Retired USAF, NASA, Professional Aeronautics Degree (Safety minor) and MBA from Embry Riddle Aeronautical University. Too bad there's no airport in Sisaket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 If Gen. PM hired Farang Consultants then Thailand could be brought up to speed with current FAA requirements. BUT, this will never happen as Thais know best, and don't need any help. Farang consultants were indeed hired, and at exorbitant cost. That was one of the reasons cited when tha THAI board chairman was sacked few days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Thing of Darkness Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 "They were ordered to look into which points that needed to be resolved" MY God this man is an inovator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 bazza40 THAI used to fly 747's from BKK to CNX. I did the trip a couple of times about 15 years ago. And you survived by the look of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Ordering them to do it..... Well works in the army.. What could go wrong? There are probably some deaf ears in the chain of command.Or, is there somewhere inability? How to get into important positions? With diligence, knowledge and experience or just with good connections? The deficits are evident now.Too bad that Thailand's flight operations is brought on his knees. Edited December 2, 2015 by tomacht8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The writing has been on the wall for some time... Only now when as they say he closes the stable door after the horse has bolted... As I seem to recall most of these problems are due to many people in the Thai aviation industry not being qualified to do the job they do. But there again I also am also aware that the FAA is more politically than safety motivated. I'm with you there until your last para. Are you saying that the Thais have been downgraded more because of the political situation rather than by safety concerns? If so, I doubt it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Safety and inspection certificates should not be so easy to sign off now since corruption was completely eradicated in Thailand this year, and surely the highly trained and dedicated inspectors will be now more enthuse in their work passengers come first rather than thinking how can I line my pocket from this certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why are so many blaming the PM? He can.'t possible take care of all problems in Thailand. Yingluck promised to make Thailand the aviation hub in SEA, just talk and no action. At least with Prayut there is a chance of improvement in this country. I hope he will stay on as long as it takes to clean the country from corruption and nepotism. After that is achieved, we could focus on new elections. Never mind "but but Yingluck", we're on the general's watch now. He wanted the power so now that he has it let's see him shape up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodknock Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 the dog and pony show has started, tickets for sale!!! Who wants the front row!! just get a super large sheet and cover up the airport and planes, then you can say WHAT planes. Cat. does not make a shoval big enough to dig a hole and shove all the bu-l sh-t of Thailand into it. and the hits just keep comming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 If Gen. PM hired Farang Consultants then Thailand could be brought up to speed with current FAA requirements. BUT, this will never happen as Thais know best, and don't need any help. Farang consultants were indeed hired, and at exorbitant cost. That was one of the reasons cited when tha THAI board chairman was sacked few days ago. Maybe they should have listened to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 A post in violation of fair use policy has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 amazing........he knew about the plans of downgrading MONTHS before already. And now at the edge he tries to act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why are so many blaming the PM? He can.'t possible take care of all problems in Thailand. Yingluck promised to make Thailand the aviation hub in SEA, just talk and no action. At least with Prayut there is a chance of improvement in this country. I hope he will stay on as long as it takes to clean the country from corruption and nepotism. After that is achieved, we could focus on new elections. Clean the country from corruption and nepotism. I mean anyone would think Prayuth got the job he has now on merit. Let him stay as long as he likes. The slow downward spiral of Thailand is continuing. Their airlines aren't qualified to fly? <deleted> kind of situation is that to be perfectly honest. If you can't get people, hire them from anywhere you like. If it's training train them, if it's spares, buy them. DO SOMETHING..... Spend the money without pocketing any yourself and pass the bloody requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmicbkktxl Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The answer is simple but long term: EDUCATION. When they start investing in education for the masses and free or cheap vocational training for more than just the elite Thailand may come into the 21st century. If everybody would have education in Thailand,mr.P would sit in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmicbkktxl Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why are so many blaming the PM? He can.'t possible take care of all problems in Thailand. Yingluck promised to make Thailand the aviation hub in SEA, just talk and no action. At least with Prayut there is a chance of improvement in this country. I hope he will stay on as long as it takes to clean the country from corruption and nepotism. After that is achieved, we could focus on new elections. Yes right,if nothing helps and nobody else to blame,then blame it on Yingluk or better Thaksin,guess you had your attitude adjustment already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I'm sure he would love to provide some attitude adjustment to those pesky FAA experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveller45 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I am just wondering if you can "Order Immediate Improvement". This is a little bit like "I order all crimes in the country to cease immediately, and the criminals to come forward to receive their just punishment". It's like an emperor or king who has but little touch with reality, gets fits of temper and takes it out on his entourage. Bad performance like this has root causes, which need to be addressed, and it is very doubtful that there can be any "immediate improvement". Consistency and sustainability are the key. Not ask too much in the immediate but have good memory and come back 6 months later to see what has been done in the concrete. Fix deadlines, offer primes, threaten demotions. That is what others do in such cases. I do appreciate PM Prayut's personal interest in such matters, with the proviso that he cannot be everywhere at the same time and if it rests all on his shoulders the efforts will fail. He needs a capable team to carry such things through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What an epic fail...they were forewarned to act, failed to act and are now on a slippery slope. The flow on effect will be a further degradation of Thai Airways as passengers opt not to pay premium category 1 prices to fly with a category 2 airline. Thai airways will struggle to prosper and succeed unless the government gets it's act together. The category 2 listing applies to the Thai aviation controls not Thai Airways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Needs dealing with ans standards need to be improved dramically, whilst they are it they might like to have a look at coach/bus travel safety standards as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What an epic fail...they were forewarned to act, failed to act and are now on a slippery slope. The flow on effect will be a further degradation of Thai Airways as passengers opt not to pay premium category 1 prices to fly with a category 2 airline. Thai airways will struggle to prosper and succeed unless the government gets it's act together. The category 2 listing applies to the Thai aviation controls not Thai Airways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow64 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Ordering them to do it..... Well works in the army.. What could go wrong? There are probably some deaf ears in the chain of command. Or, is there somewhere inability? How to get into important positions? With diligence, knowledge and experience or just with good connections? The deficits are evident now. Too bad that Thailand's flight operations is brought on his knees. Not the only industry on its knees... Could be the start of a new Hub. Sent from my c64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineofentry Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 10,000 properly trained aviation technicians are now 'immediately' available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why are so many blaming the PM? He can.'t possible take care of all problems in Thailand. Yingluck promised to make Thailand the aviation hub in SEA, just talk and no action. At least with Prayut there is a chance of improvement in this country. I hope he will stay on as long as it takes to clean the country from corruption and nepotism. After that is achieved, we could focus on new elections. Chance for improvement ?? Crashing economy Rising debt (and you though Shins made bad debt !!) Abject failure for water management Multi nationals leaving falling exports total lack of leadership, multiple u turns and about faces Falling house condo prices Corruption rising 60% rise in crime FAA bans.. Potential Euro air bans Potential poultry export bans Potential Seafood industry bans Loss off free speech Loss of free press Loss of human rights Countered by "we (the minority who has lost 5 elections in a row for almost 15 years) dont like Thaksin"... But motorcycle taxis got new vests! There's been accomplishments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIBATCH Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why are so many blaming the PM? He can.'t possible take care of all problems in Thailand. Yingluck promised to make Thailand the aviation hub in SEA, just talk and no action. At least with Prayut there is a chance of improvement in this country. I hope he will stay on as long as it takes to clean the country from corruption and nepotism. After that is achieved, we could focus on new elections. Chance for improvement ?? Crashing economy Rising debt (and you though Shins made bad debt !!) Abject failure for water management Multi nationals leaving falling exports total lack of leadership, multiple u turns and about faces Falling house condo prices Corruption rising 60% rise in crime FAA bans.. Potential Euro air bans Potential poultry export bans Potential Seafood industry bans Loss off free speech Loss of free press Loss of human rights Countered by "we (the minority who has lost 5 elections in a row for almost 15 years) dont like Thaksin"... But motorcycle taxis got new vests! There's been accomplishments! ...and...and...lottery tickets are down to 80baht.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Now the PM has spoken it will be fixed , thai fixed. The next phase of operation "rug it under the carpet"... Edited December 2, 2015 by MaxLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 "He also blamed the present dispute in the country in which many people were quarrelling each other and wasting time on useless issues that do no good to the country and economy." Did he try to figure out who is the cause for the present dispute? Hint : The cause for the dispute can be discovered in the bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Arrogance, ignorance, and incompetence. Not a pretty cocktail of personality traits in the best of situations. No sirree. Not a pretty cocktail in an office-mate and not a pretty cocktail in a head of state. In fact, in a leader, it's a lethal cocktail. Graydon Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Now the PM has spoken it will be fixed , thai fixed. The next phase of operation "rug it under the carpet"... I hear Thailand has contacted Guinness because they want to have an attempt of breaking the world record for the biggest rug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Isn't that something for King Ubu? Order immediate improvements... Oh my Buddha! What's next? Order corruption to stop? Order all to be in good health, ...or to be happy? Can't even write fairy tales with such material nowadays, not one single 4-year old who would believe it, ...in first world countries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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