webfact Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 White House: Donald Trump Muslim plan 'disqualifies' him from presidencyWashington (CNN)Donald Trump's statement that Muslims should be banned from entering the United States "disqualifies" him from being president, the White House spokesman said Tuesday."The fact is what Donald Trump said yesterday disqualifies him from serving as president," White House press secretary Josh Earnest said in Tuesday's press briefing. For a White House administration to so heavily weigh in on an opposing party's nominating contest is a highly unusual step.Earnest noted first that every president must take an oath to "preserve, protect and defend" the U.S. Constitution, and thus, he said, Trump would not qualify.-- CNN 2015-12-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amerasianex Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Unless a country would like to see its citizenry murdered this is the only plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Obama's "White House" lack of a plan disqualifies him but we're stuck with him for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 "Earnest noted first that every president must take an oath to "preserve, protect and defend" the U.S. Constitution, and thus, he said, Trump would not qualify." And, just what part of the US Constitution guarantees that foreigners of any stripe will be allowed into the country, Mr. "White House"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampang2 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Democracy is always a threat to those in charge for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Democracy is always a threat to those in charge for the moment. Are you talking about the US? The US isn't a democracy. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maewang99 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) he can still be voted in. another long time popular politician, with Americans apparently, and still ragingly so almost 100 years later.... all you gotta do is check the History Channel if you have True Vision... did some of the same type of speeches. not only that, but Hitler also comes to mind on some other aspects of Trumpie's candidacy as well. Edited December 9, 2015 by maewang99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usernames Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 he can still be voted in. another long time popular politician, with Americans apparently, and still ragingly so almost 100 years later.... all you gotta do is check the History Channel if you have True Vision... did some of the same type of speeches. not only that, but Hitler also comes to mind on some other aspects of Trumpie's candidacy as well. You realize that this is incoherent, don't you? Word salad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSully Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 You've got the pied piper of idiots in trump. Play up fear, play up a persecution complex and you get this. Flavor of the week hate. Mexicans, Blacks, Asians, refugees, the disabled, and now entire religions all in a few months time. How many types of people can you be afraid of? Unless a country would like to see its citizenry murdered this is the only plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English 1 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Unless a country would like to see its citizenry murdered this is the only plan Re WEBFACT on which I cannot leave a reply! Let the people decide and then I think Trump will WIN and so he should. Remember 911 Etc Etc Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchisaan Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Unless a country would like to see its citizenry murdered this is the only planRe WEBFACT on which I cannot leave a reply!Let the people decide and then I think Trump will WIN and so he should. Remember 911 Etc Etc Etc. Remember WW2 and the facists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Unless a country would like to see its citizenry murdered this is the only plan Americans murdering americans is already more than enough ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 "Earnest noted first that every president must take an oath to "preserve, protect and defend" the U.S. Constitution, and thus, he said, Trump would not qualify." And, just what part of the US Constitution guarantees that foreigners of any stripe will be allowed into the country, Mr. "White House"? I believe that refers to his initial claim that even Muslims who are US citizens travelling outside the US would not be permitted entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 What in the name of Satan is the problem in the white house?Muslim intrusion?You are talking about Preserve/Protect & Defend??? That's Exactly what he's trying to do ,,,,,Preserve the Country/Protect the Country/Defend the Country,,,, from all the BAD GUYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlj Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 This statement would NOT prevent Donald Trump from running for President. Everyone running is very scared of Trump and looking for a way to get him out of the race for President. The people want Trump for President and he spares no words on what needs to be done to make America great again Go Donald Trump GO 2016 President Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcampbe Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) "Earnest noted first that every president must take an oath to "preserve, protect and defend" the U.S. Constitution, and thus, he said, Trump would not qualify." And, just what part of the US Constitution guarantees that foreigners of any stripe will be allowed into the country, Mr. "White House"? It's the part called the First Amendment... It begins... "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..." For some reason, people always seem to forget that second clause... This is not about letting in "foreigners of any stripe", its about the fact that it is wrong to exclude people purely on the basis of the color of one particular stripe. You know... things like gender, age, race, RELIGION... I get why Trump's hotheaded knee jerk reaction seems justified to some people. It's easy to fall into that kind of thinking when you see the kinds of things that are going on in the world and in your own home country. There are terrible people in the world doing terrible things, but Trump needs to think before he opens his mouth to spew this kind of rhetoric. Categorically discriminating against Muslims by denying them entry to the US for no other reason than the fact that they are Muslim goes against everything we stand for as a country. I'm the first to say that no country lives up to it's own PR, and the US has plenty to answer for around the world, but the rule of law we have is based on a set of principles defined in the Constitution. Given our immigrant past, the belief in that vision is the only true definition of "American". I believe that when we have shined as a nation it was because we acted according to those principles. Now, Donald Trump... candidate for President of the US, no less... comes out with this kind of ignorant, isolationist, uninformed, fear mongering, "plan" in response to a mass shooting. Is this the kind of thinking we can expect from President Trump? Is this his great solution? Is this his grand plan to "Make America Great Again"? Mr. Trump's "plan" is not only unconstitutional and contrary to our most core values, but it demonstrates that he doesn't seem to realize that If we let them change the way we live and what we believe... if we let them make us so afraid that we let them take away our values... what do we have left? Mr. Trump's "plan" is just giving them what they want... more American's afraid.. greater polarization and escalation with the west... an excuse to justify their attacks... and a recruitment tool... all rolled up in one. I'm sure we have all been amused at one time or another at his campaign antics... everybody loves a train wreck... but I do hope that people come to their senses soon and realise that this man is simply not fit to be POTUS. Edited December 9, 2015 by rjcampbe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 This statement would NOT prevent Donald Trump from running for President. Everyone running is very scared of Trump and looking for a way to get him out of the race for President. The people want Trump for President and he spares no words on what needs to be done to make America great again Go Donald Trump GO 2016 President Trump. I'm not sure "The people" want Trump for president. A load of terrified bigots do though. And I think Earnest got it right when he described Trump as a "Carnival Barker" because that about sums up what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 This is unfair to Trump. He didn't mean it, he will say anything if he feels it will win him votes. Please don't stop him running for the presidency, the democrats will be devastated and we will be robbed of the best entertainment of the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnybay Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 ISIS is growing and spreading all over the world, thats a fact , they recruit people that have no hope in life and give them meaning (and money). Africa will be a breeding ground and the poor part of the US, also Afghanistan and possibly Indonesia in time What Trump is saying will happen, if not next year but in the years following. I can see interment and mass deportation of Muslims as well from Western countries, we will get to that point The money source has to be cut off quickly, bomb the oilfields if necessary The world as we know it is facing something even more worse than the Nazi's, this is already WW3 IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Mr Trump is nothing more than a loud mouthed carnival barker. He has no real plan to help the poor or the middle class. His only plan is to prey on the bigotry that exists in a frightened populace. Why do they call them terrorists. It is because a small number of people can cause a large number of people to fear them through actions which are bizarre and brutal.. Not only is Mr Trump a bigot , he is also afraid. America needs a President who is prudent in his actions but not afraid to take steps when necessary. Do we really want to put back into the Middle East 150,000 US Forces to root out a peasant force that has no real legitimacy other than scaring people. Those who advocate intervention are doing exactly what the terrorists want and can use as propaganda to bring more people into their fold. During World War II- Japanese Americans were wrongly put into concentration camps- out of fear. African Americans have been denied their rights as full citizens for years because of their color. Please, let's not go down this road again. As much as I criticize American so called Democracy-Obama has a solid point on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunduhpostman Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Things are getting pretty bizzarre that only a guy who wants to put up a massive wall between Mexico and the US thinks it is reasonable to maybe start limiting the intake of an obviously problematic group into the country. I guess people just cannot handle the cognitive dissonance between the notion of tolerance and intolerance of intolerance, seems to be a stretch for even the smartest of my friends back in the states. Nothing anyone can do at this point, seems the intelligentsia is hellbent on bringing hundreds of thousands perhaps even millions of Arabic country Muslims in. And I guess America will just have to live and learn tho even then I am not sure that will happen either. People seem to think its better to sacrifce everything so that you can say that you aren't a racist and want to to tolerate all, no matter what they might think or want to do. People I talk to don't seem to worry about a backlash either once you have all the newly settled Muslim refugees. It would seem if you cared about them you would worry about what might happen to them in America. I don't think Americans are just going to lay down and tolerate people who want to impose sharia on them etc. And I would guess the Muslims would fight back if anyone contradicts them. Even if the government backs the Muslims all the way, there are all the ingredients for not only much harm to come to Americans but to the people they are claiming they want to help. It is complete madness and terrible to be called a racist and a bigot when that is something you have taken care to try and not be your whole life. Tho of course trump is not among them who appears terribly concerned about preserving harmony between all the different peoples of the world. Edited December 9, 2015 by Shaunduhpostman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Other individuals are denied entry for various reasons, why can't this be extended to a group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 There will never be Sharia Law in America or a situation where anyone of any faith-let alone Muslims will be dictating anything to anyone. The United States is a huge country and has assimilated peoples of all backgrounds and cultures for ages. Yes, it can issue entry to anyone it desires or not. This is not necessarily racist but we are talking about excluding people because of religion. There are millions of American citizens who are Muslim and go about their lives without issue. I am not fond of the Muslim faith but I have no right nor desire to criticize someone because they are of a different faith than me. The Obama administration wants to bring into the country over several years up to 10K refugees who will be screened like never before. They are not going to settle in one city- they will spread among the whole country and its 350 ,million people. When I am in America, I hardly notice them. Europe on the other hand is a huge problem due to its smaller land mass and country divisions. These refugees need to be resettled to other countries throughout the World. Until that issue is solved- these people need to be monitored closely because they have no pre screening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Go Donald go ! The japanese will have nothing to do with them, and neither should any civilised country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jippytum Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Earnest noted first that every president must take an oath to "preserve, protect and defend" the U.S. Constitution, and thus, he said, Trump would not qualify. Rubbish that's exactly what 'The Donald' is trying to do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Virtually every time this bombastic, infantile maniac opens his mouth, he disqualifies himself from the office. He does not have a presidential bone in his limp body. That does not seem to be affecting his popularity among his base though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Other individuals are denied entry for various reasons, why can't this be extended to a group? For various other reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 <snip> The japanese will have nothing to do with them, <snip> Incorrect info based upon a hoax email that is only referenced by the misinformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampang2 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 "Earnest noted first that every president must take an oath to "preserve, protect and defend" the U.S. Constitution, and thus, he said, Trump would not qualify." And, just what part of the US Constitution guarantees that foreigners of any stripe will be allowed into the country, Mr. "White House"? It's the part called the First Amendment... It begins... "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..." For some reason, people always seem to forget that second clause... This is not about letting in "foreigners of any stripe", its about the fact that it is wrong to exclude people purely on the basis of the color of one particular stripe. You know... things like gender, age, race, RELIGION... I get why Trump's hotheaded knee jerk reaction seems justified to some people. It's easy to fall into that kind of thinking when you see the kinds of things that are going on in the world and in your own home country. There are terrible people in the world doing terrible things, but Trump needs to think before he opens his mouth to spew this kind of rhetoric. Categorically discriminating against Muslims by denying them entry to the US for no other reason than the fact that they are Muslim goes against everything we stand for as a country. I'm the first to say that no country lives up to it's own PR, and the US has plenty to answer for around the world, but the rule of law we have is based on a set of principles defined in the Constitution. Given our immigrant past, the belief in that vision is the only true definition of "American". I believe that when we have shined as a nation it was because we acted according to those principles. Now, Donald Trump... candidate for President of the US, no less... comes out with this kind of ignorant, isolationist, uninformed, fear mongering, "plan" in response to a mass shooting. Is this the kind of thinking we can expect from President Trump? Is this his great solution? Is this his grand plan to "Make America Great Again"? Mr. Trump's "plan" is not only unconstitutional and contrary to our most core values, but it demonstrates that he doesn't seem to realize that If we let them change the way we live and what we believe... if we let them make us so afraid that we let them take away our values... what do we have left? Mr. Trump's "plan" is just giving them what they want... more American's afraid.. greater polarization and escalation with the west... an excuse to justify their attacks... and a recruitment tool... all rolled up in one. I'm sure we have all been amused at one time or another at his campaign antics... everybody loves a train wreck... but I do hope that people come to their senses soon and realise that this man is simply not fit to be POTUS. Is this possible a pre muslim-era ammendment? Maybe time for an overhaul of 200+ years materia. Maybe also time to actually give the president some power if one goes trough the trouble of electing one. Not being brought to his knees by congress on every matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Seems like Trump has stolen Herman Goering's play-book. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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