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Hi, I recomend using TOA paint, you can get it from aTOA shop or local hardware, its cheaper at TOA shop and they will tell you exactly what you need.

You will need to sand down the door first with 220 grit paper or higher the higher the number the more fine it is.

Then clean off the sanding dust from the door.

Then you will need to put on an under coat which will seal the door and stop the top coat from leaching into the wood.

then sand down again, ( wait 8-12 hours for it to dry and cure, this will be written on the can) ,clean off the dust again and put your top coat.

Light sand down again,,clean off the dust again, wait for it to dry and then put on your final coat.

If you knock on the door and it sounds solid its wood.

If it sounds hollow its MDF skin outside and wood frame inside.

I hope I was able to help.

Edited by Rocceao
Posted

Indoor or outdoor? Will the sun shine directly on it? Simple job if indoors, bit more consideration needed if external. Two coats, first will serve as primer. TOA per above suggestion will be adequate and available in many shops.

Posted

plain paper?

are you able to post a photo of your door in its original condition? better suggestions can be made if you can be clearer.

1. original state of your door

2. what you want to achieve

your TOA white paint may start peeling off if you dont remove the oil coat on your kitchen door.

Posted

plain paper?

are you able to post a photo of your door in its original condition? better suggestions can be made if you can be clearer.

1. original state of your door

2. what you want to achieve

your TOA white paint may start peeling off if you dont remove the oil coat on your kitchen door.

I mean plain sand paper sheet sanded with my gentle hands.... no tools or machinery.

I just want to paint the door. It's ok..... I am just moaning about work.

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In the UK you don't paint the top of the door...I don't paint that bit here either.

My experiance here is that gloss coat is very thin ...you need to watch for runs minutes after you think that you have finished!

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waste of time unless all grease has been removed first ..................painter for 30 years in the UK also you cant get them here but I used to wash the doors then sand then vacuum them then use a TACK rag to remove last bits of dust, people banished from the house so they didnt make dust, windows closed etc, as mentioned paint is wee wee thin here you will need two top coats for it to look even half decent after at least 2 undercoats..................Thai way ignore all slap on 1 coat with a brush full of grit.

I actually bring my own undercoat and tack rags from the UK and my own "Henry" vacuum with real bristle soft brush along with Hamilton Perfection pure bristle brushes.

Posted

best way to paint from a builder...quick and easy

1. Use sandpaper only on the edges which are normally rough ...

2. use steel wool used normally for scrubbing spots and pans on the whole door...this will act same as sandpaper but much better and faster.

3.vacum and use rag with mineral sprits or turpentine to clean ( around 30 bt ) at any hardware or home pro etc.

4. Then add small amount to your OIL base paint to thin it out..Stir in...note small pint will do the trick for one door

5. Paint on thin not heavy the door then ..when dry go over it with steel wool again lightly to remove buggers...clean...apply 2nd coat

Presto...perfection

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some good and some not so good advice, the door needs to be cleaned down and all grease removed, turps will do it, sugar soap is also good if you can find it, if the door is not simply a flat door then use steel wool dipped in the cleaning solution to get into the corners of any "fancy" additions. I used steel wool only on clear/stained wood work to sand it as it only removes the burs, raised timber from the previous coat plus removes the sheen, sand paper actually removes any roughness and will cut it back a lot better. All the dust needs to be removed before applying a coat of oil undercoat, may need a touch of turps to thin it out and you can also add a small amount of oil based gloss as this will help level the undercoat(gloss paint is self leveling) so you dont get as many brush marks. You lightly sand and dust between coats, if the first coat isnt fully white and not see through put on a second undercoat then again sand and dust before applying the top coat. These days there are acrylic enamel paints(waterbased) that are pretty good too, I used them on my house here in Surat Thani, after the coat of oil undercoat you need to apply a coat of acrylic undercoat as the acrylic enamel doesnt bond well to oil paint, 2 coats of the acrylic enamel over the acrylic undercoat bonds really well and gives a solid finish, the choice is yours as to which way you go. I normally roll the doors with a foam sleeve then "tip" them off lightly with a good brush but then I brought all my own gear with me, drop sheets, trays, rollers, extension handles, sleeves, brushes etc as it hard to get decent gear here although there are a few good brushes around now if you look, a 3" one will do it but make sure you keep a wet edge on the door when applying the paint, a couple of minutes a side is all it should take to be safe.

Posted

best way to paint from a builder...quick and easy

1. Use sandpaper only on the edges which are normally rough ...

2. use steel wool used normally for scrubbing spots and pans on the whole door...this will act same as sandpaper but much better and faster.

3.vacum and use rag with mineral sprits or turpentine to clean ( around 30 bt ) at any hardware or home pro etc.

4. Then add small amount to your OIL base paint to thin it out..Stir in...note small pint will do the trick for one door

5. Paint on thin not heavy the door then ..when dry go over it with steel wool again lightly to remove buggers...clean...apply 2nd coat

Presto...perfection

Steel wool is not good for this especially as a lot of paints can now be water based and builders are usually CRAP painters, the cloth to wipe has to be lint free and the whole door will need sanding to provide a key for each layer

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some good and some not so good advice, the door needs to be cleaned down and all grease removed, turps will do it, sugar soap is also good if you can find it, if the door is not simply a flat door then use steel wool dipped in the cleaning solution to get into the corners of any "fancy" additions. I used steel wool only on clear/stained wood work to sand it as it only removes the burs, raised timber from the previous coat plus removes the sheen, sand paper actually removes any roughness and will cut it back a lot better. All the dust needs to be removed before applying a coat of oil undercoat, may need a touch of turps to thin it out and you can also add a small amount of oil based gloss as this will help level the undercoat(gloss paint is self leveling) so you dont get as many brush marks. You lightly sand and dust between coats, if the first coat isnt fully white and not see through put on a second undercoat then again sand and dust before applying the top coat. These days there are acrylic enamel paints(waterbased) that are pretty good too, I used them on my house here in Surat Thani, after the coat of oil undercoat you need to apply a coat of acrylic undercoat as the acrylic enamel doesnt bond well to oil paint, 2 coats of the acrylic enamel over the acrylic undercoat bonds really well and gives a solid finish, the choice is yours as to which way you go. I normally roll the doors with a foam sleeve then "tip" them off lightly with a good brush but then I brought all my own gear with me, drop sheets, trays, rollers, extension handles, sleeves, brushes etc as it hard to get decent gear here although there are a few good brushes around now if you look, a 3" one will do it but make sure you keep a wet edge on the door when applying the paint, a couple of minutes a side is all it should take to be safe.

The main thing here is speed in applying the top coat as its lost its wet edge damn fast in Thailand.

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It really came out crappy. even my gf was disgusted and told me her greasy, dirty door looked better before.

Whatever.... I gave it a shot. I think I bought low quality brushes.

Glossing a door with good materials and tools is an art, with the crap sold here it's hell.
Posted (edited)

I LOL-ed.

I got to import almost everything, the stuff sold here is either unusable or overpriced.


Edited by Rimmer
Chinese characters removed: English is the only acceptable language anywhere on ThaiVisa including Classifieds, except within the Thai language forum, where of course using Thai is allowed.
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The main work is the cleaning. You have to get rid of all the grease first with ammonia or so. Last summer I did a wooden outside wall. The time for the work I spend was 50% for cleaning with ammonia, 30% for sanding with a machine, 20% for painting 2 layers.

No use to sand before cleaning, you just smear all the grease over the area.

Posted

The main work is the cleaning. You have to get rid of all the grease first with ammonia or so. Last summer I did a wooden outside wall. The time for the work I spend was 50% for cleaning with ammonia, 30% for sanding with a machine, 20% for painting 2 layers.

No use to sand before cleaning, you just smear all the grease over the area.

Yaa... that's what I did.

That and painting without a work permit.

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