Caught again, Thailand can’t keep wriggling off the hook

[LomSak27]

Bark, you need to sound somewhat convincing when you troll, and yes have a little knowledge about what you are bark-ing about.

Just trying to help cause if you get fired form another job ... moms going to kick you out of the basement.

[elgordo38]

They will try.

International: "we have a roadmap, police are investigating, we should issue warrants some time soon, Come back and look again in six months, Thailand is special, you don't understand..."

Internally: Inactive posts, a few "expenses payments" to be made to the "right people", possibly defamation, comment online - Computer Crimes Act....

You nailed it. Good article. This reporter should be looking over his shoulder for the PCP politically correct police. I seem to see more pointed questioning news articles like this one. Are we reaching a turning point or will the FB lad be held up for one and all to see what fate awaits anyone who wishes to push the "like" button. To rule the masses one must select an example make him a poster boy of what happens when you rile the rulers.

[elgordo38]

They need to start issuing warnings on the food. They issue 'dolphin friendly' on tuna cans.

They should issue a warning on food saying "This is a product of Thailand. Persons may have been enslaved during the process and packaging of this product"

Not just Thailand. Any country who behaves like this

Why you don't try it out?

Put 2 lots of Tuna cans on the shelves, one with the warning you suggest, and another 30% more expensive without the warning.

I know which one will be purchased by the end consumer.

Walmart years ago started their merchandising with "Made In The USA" stickers. Look what happened there and the rise of the Dollar stores. Why is Toyota the best selling vehicle in the world. Its all about the money honey right down to the lowest wage earner. Why do you think all the "noble" manufacturers picked up their skirts and fled abroad. Its all about low wages lack of environment law (the new COP21 laws or scriblings will make little difference) darling the bottom line shareholder anxiety at not making enough moola. Its all about the money honey. The bottom line.

[ParadiseLost]

I have to tell you all that anything that is this big for the Thai Economy will 100 % effect most of you. Any ban on Seafood would kill the economy.

100's of factories closing, millions of jobs gone. And the Thai would take it out on Americans, and anyone who looks like an American. Also the sweet place you call home( Sunshine, cheap beer, and girls, will quickly, vanish! A total seafood ban would be the same as no heavy manufacturing in any western country. No one likes Slavery, and yes it should stop.

Their Russian friends will gladly take up a lot of the slack... Not so big on scruples but Rubles, yes.

Can't see the Chinese worrying much either, they can repackage it and sell to anyone - as they do.

Isn't North Korea a good friend too?

See - it pays to make friends with pariahs.

[FangFerang]

There will always be human trafficking in Thailand, until they punish slavers more severely than they punish slaves whom they arrest for speaking out. They take them from slavery to prison, now that is 'Thainess' (in the government, anyway, the working people are really wonderful).

Everyone else in the world knows this, but the US is mumbling "we are happy with our Thai shrimp suppliers" and the EU keeps waving the ragged remains of a rice paper thin yellow card.

[robblok]

There will always be human trafficking in Thailand, until they punish slavers more severely than they punish slaves whom they arrest for speaking out. They take them from slavery to prison, now that is 'Thainess' (in the government, anyway, the working people are really wonderful).

Everyone else in the world knows this, but the US is mumbling "we are happy with our Thai shrimp suppliers" and the EU keeps waving the ragged remains of a rice paper thin yellow card.

Its all bark and no bite from both the EU and US even if they bit there would be others to take their place. They can't tell Thailand what to do its a sovereign country. I am not saying nothing should be done.. I am saying nothing will be done by EU and US.

[chilli42]

Seems to me they keep getting off the hook. Why change?

[chilli42]

Go into any restaurant in the USA. The people who cook your food are illegal Mexicans. 12 million of them, and counting. Under paid, over worked, cannot go anywhere else to work, because they don't have work permits. Slavery ?

What do you think.

I think they choose to be there. They are held hostage to their own greed or aspiration to a better future. If you think that is what is going on in Thailand you have a screw loose.

[Artisi]

Go into any restaurant in the USA. The people who cook your food are illegal Mexicans. 12 million of them, and counting. Under paid, over worked, cannot go anywhere else to work, because they don't have work permits. Slavery ?

What do you think.

But but, that's different......

[LomSak27]

Until the US cleans up it's act of allowing the FDA, politicians, big Pharma, Big food, GMO companies (such as Monsanto and Dow) and the government agencies that collude with the others mentioned to have free rein to do what they want in order to maximise profits at people's expense, then they should have NO say in Thai's commercial practices.

Good troll lucky11, one problem

People might notice, (not likely but could happen), that this has nothing to do with having a say about Thailand's commercial practices. This is all about America, specifically who they buy from. Thailand can do whatever it wants. However as America buys over 40 per cent of Thailand shrimp production, losing that market might be, uh, a problem, they might want to consider changes ..... if not ... cool, more power to them ... then .

Perhaps China would buy half of Thailand's shrimp production ... or maybe Russia How about Albania?

[derator01]

A few off topic posts have been removed from view. Please stick to the topic.

[Seastallion]

They need to start issuing warnings on the food. They issue 'dolphin friendly' on tuna cans.

They should issue a warning on food saying "This is a product of Thailand. Persons may have been enslaved during the process and packaging of this product"

Not just Thailand. Any country who behaves like this

Well, yes, that would be nice. But wouldn't it be better, so the Western retailers aren't left with unsaleable stock, to simply boycott and not buy the food in the first place?

[JAG]

They need to start issuing warnings on the food. They issue 'dolphin friendly' on tuna cans.

They should issue a warning on food saying "This is a product of Thailand. Persons may have been enslaved during the process and packaging of this product"

Not just Thailand. Any country who behaves like this

Well, yes, that would be nice. But wouldn't it be better, so the Western retailers aren't left with unsaleable stock, to simply boycott and not buy the food in the first place?

You're probably right. Mind you, the practice of slavery in the Thai seafood industry has been rather a poorly kept secret for some time, and perhaps that means that the western retailers are complicit, so maybe being left with unsaleable stock would serve them right?

[stickylies]

Is it SLAVERY or SUHLAVERY ?

So many other priorities in Thailand atm. Eg. Nurses and accountants to conquer asean, hubs to invent, selfies to take, happiness to the people, skins to bleach...

[Ricardo]

Time for a Crackdown on wriggling, in the Hub of wriggling, erm ... let's set up a commission-of-enquiry to propose a methodology for considering that !

[Ricardo]

I have to tell you all that anything that is this big for the Thai Economy will 100 % effect most of you. Any ban on Seafood would kill the economy.

100's of factories closing, millions of jobs gone. And the Thai would take it out on Americans, and anyone who looks like an American. Also the sweet place you call home( Sunshine, cheap beer, and girls, will quickly, vanish! A total seafood ban would be the same as no heavy manufacturing in any western country. No one likes Slavery, and yes it should stop.

"would kill the economy" and "millions of jobs gone" and "anyone who looks like an American"

Just a slight exaggeration there, I suspect.

If it were really that bad, then the annual no-fishing-period or the recent crackdown-on-unlicensed-boats would have caused riots in the streets, and millions of Thais to starve-to-death, which they didn't !

Lets just hope that the country continues to address the problem, recognising that international-concern is high, and something real needs to be done.

Edited December 19, 2015 by Ricardo

[zakk9]

I have to tell you all that anything that is this big for the Thai Economy will 100 % effect most of you. Any ban on Seafood would kill the economy.

100's of factories closing, millions of jobs gone. And the Thai would take it out on Americans, and anyone who looks like an American. Also the sweet place you call home( Sunshine, cheap beer, and girls, will quickly, vanish! A total seafood ban would be the same as no heavy manufacturing in any western country. No one likes Slavery, and yes it should stop.

"would kill the economy" and "millions of jobs gone" and "anyone who looks like an American"

Just a slight exaggeration there, I suspect.

If it were really that bad, then the annual no-fishing-period or the recent crackdown-on-unlicensed-boats would have caused riots in the streets, and millions of Thais to starve-to-death, which they didn't !

Lets just hope that the country continues to address the problem, recognising that international-concern is high, and something real needs to be done.

It mostly affects jobs for Burmese, many of whom will be able to get jobs in the growing Myanmar seafood industry. As for the money, my guess is that very little of it is taxed, and that a large portion ends up at tax havens abroad.

[stickylies]

I have to tell you all that anything that is this big for the Thai Economy will 100 % effect most of you. Any ban on Seafood would kill the economy.

100's of factories closing, millions of jobs gone. And the Thai would take it out on Americans, and anyone who looks like an American. Also the sweet place you call home( Sunshine, cheap beer, and girls, will quickly, vanish! A total seafood ban would be the same as no heavy manufacturing in any western country. No one likes Slavery, and yes it should stop.

"would kill the economy" and "millions of jobs gone" and "anyone who looks like an American"

Just a slight exaggeration there, I suspect.

If it were really that bad, then the annual no-fishing-period or the recent crackdown-on-unlicensed-boats would have caused riots in the streets, and millions of Thais to starve-to-death, which they didn't !

Lets just hope that the country continues to address the problem, recognising that international-concern is high, and something real needs to be done.

It mostly affects jobs for Burmese, many of whom will be able to get jobs in the growing Myanmar seafood industry. As for the money, my guess is that very little of it is taxed, and that a large portion ends up at tax havens abroad.

... And Burmese workers in Burma are treated like slaves too... ?