Mattyquali Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I went to see condos around Mae Rim area last Sunday as I'm planning to spend my time after the retirement in Chiang mai. Now I've decided to buy a unit at Chiang mai Green Valley Condominium, where I find the environment very pleasant and safe. I feel that most people living there do have pretty high quality of life and it would be very good place for my Thai wife and her kid to live. The thing is I'm not familiar with that area and also have very little idea about what they have, for example, eating and shopping places. Can anyone share with me the living experience you guys have in Mae rim? Is there any reputable school around there? As I'm afraid that when I get older, it will not be so convenient for me to drive around much. I believe that you should enjoy the peaceful environment, nice weather, just like me. Appreciate your opinions. Thanks Matty 1
LivinLOS Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Traffic into and out of the city makes me glad I dont live out there.. I guess less relevant if you dont go in much.
Dante99 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Reliable sources tell me that that condo is involved in legal action with Green Valley homeowners association which could effect access to the condo. You might want to check it our since that might not only impact access but also the attitudes of the nearby homeowners who do not want condo owners using their road. For the rest of your inquiry, try to search this site as there has been much info about Mae Rim posted. 1
Ricardo Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 "Is there any reputable school around there?" Prem Center, NIS or CMIS, would be the international-schools North of town, which you might want to look at. http://ptis.ac.th/ http://www.nis.ac.th/ http://www.cmis.ac.th/
CMKiwi Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) The traffic into the city is no worse than say from Hang Dong into the city. I live in Mae Rim and totally enjoy the area and it's people. Some may enjoy a bigger nightlife and if that is so then Mae Rim is not a place for them. Directly opposite Green Valley is a very good Thai open air restaurant. Authentic Thai dishes at a very affordable price. But be warned...The menu is only on Thai. We don't have any big supermarkets or malls here. However Meechok plaza/intersection isn't that far away and a lot of shopping needs can be fulfilled there. There are however a lot of smaller shops/enterprises around Mae Rim and if you can't find what you're after then most shop keepers will try to point you in the right direction. I've only been here 3 years but each day I learn something new about the place. It's great. Edited December 21, 2015 by CMKiwi 2
Popular Post MaeJoMTB Posted December 21, 2015 Popular Post Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Too far out, and a very dull place for foreigners (I lived near there for 2 years). Mae Rim WittayaKom High School is a pretty good government school, one of mine is in her final year there. Green Valley has many disputes over access. Better off half way out at Don Keow or MaeJo PS. CMKiwi, You forgot the big Makro in Mae Rim. MeeChok Plaza is almost 20Km from Mae Rim, might as well drive to town. Hang Dong is also too far out (I lived there too). But Hang Dong isn't at the end of the runway as many foreigners seem to think, end of runway is only half way. What you should do, Rent a place at Don Keow Village for 6 months, about 5k/month for a two bed house, and only half way to Mae Rim. Don't rush to buy a condo, too far out and with problems. If you don't like it, the chances of you ever selling it again are close to ZERO. And finally, Foreigner ghettos are not a suitable place to park a Thai wife. Almost all the women will be of a type you really don't want yours to mix with. They will drag her into plotting and scheming (been there, done that) and generally make your life miserable. Much better to live in a Thai area (where you might be a bit less comfortable) but she will be able to mix with much more normal (and respectable) Thai people. I've lived in a foreigner ghetto (near Doi Saket) .... it was hell on earth, many of the foreigners were the worst sort of scum. I've lived in several, Thai only, Moobaans (Don Keow, MaeJo), .......... never any problems (apart from dog pooh), everyone is nice, the kids are free to roam and play. Edited December 21, 2015 by MaeJoMTB 9 1
CMKiwi Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Agreed about buying a Condo. .....unless it's you final retirement place. It's a buyers market, not a sellers. 2
bangmai Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Look at the extra expense of owning a car, and living closer in will make a lot more sense. I do think Mae Rim is pretty nice, though. If traffic is like HD Road...holy shiiite. I was coming back from HomePro on Saturday afternoon..hadn't been out there much lately, but used to live at BWT, 7 years ago. Pretty much gridlock the whole way into the city. A friend made the same trip n Friday at 15:00 and said the same thing...you would think traffic would be a lot heavier going the other way in the afternoon, but apparently not. This lady I eat with four times a week, by CMU tells me she does 30 Km each way to work (Saraphi), not in rush hour, and it is really wearing her out. Even if gas was free.....miles and maintenace are real money. 1
Popular Post luther Posted December 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted December 22, 2015 Mae Rim is a great area to live in...IF you don't work and don't have to go into to town to take your kid to school. I go into town once or twice a week during off hours. It's a fifteen minute drive. There are plenty of good restaurants. We buy most of our food at Macro. As for the condo, it's worth reading this thread... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/711348-green-valley-condo/ 3
Puwa Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 The strengths of Green Valley are the quality and security of the development (don't know about the condo), golf if that's your thing, nearby supermarket, and convenience for commuters. But it's not really typical of Mae Rim living. There are four decent main routes into town, depending on where you are going: Canal Road for Nimman, the university, Suthep, and Hang Dong; the 107 for the superhighway or a straight shot to the old city; Muang Kaew to access the ring roads or to sneak into town along the river; and the 1001 for Meechok, Central Festival and points east. 2
Popular Post lexilis Posted December 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted December 22, 2015 Mae Rim extends south further than some people think. I rent a house in Donkeaw, Mae Rim very near the river and about 200 meters north of the inner ring road. Absolutely great location. MeeChok Plaza is two minutes away and I have about five different ways to get into CM town. I never go north into Mae Rim town, CM is much closer. I much prefer living here than south or west of the city. 3
LivinLOS Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 The traffic into the city is no worse than say from Hang Dong into the city. I live in Mae Rim and totally enjoy the area and it's people. Some may enjoy a bigger nightlife and if that is so then Mae Rim is not a place for them. I would respectfully disagree based on many times driving it.. That mess of roadwork intersection at the outer ring rd, and the prospect of added traffic when they do similar to the mae jo intersection (so I have read) is terrible. As is the approach to the superhighway junction.. And comparing it to the hang dong rd, probably the second worse access, is damning with faint praise. Chiang Mai and traffic is a legit issue, hence why I ride mostly..
CMKiwi Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 LivinLOS, I agree that the new underpass/intersection was a huge mess whilst under construction. As it is nearly completed its no where as bad as it once was and when opened as an underpass it will help a lot with the traffic flow. The current 'bottle neck' from Mae Rim to the 'Old town' is as you say at the Super Highway intersection. Im not sure what the authorities are going to do about that nor if they are worried but there are other routes to take to get around that area. I too travel a lot into the city but mainly on my motorcycle as it is easier (quicker) at peak times. Conversely the few times I have been out in Baan Tawai and attempted to get back into the city, the roads have been chaos. HD road and the canal road were gridlocked during peak hours and even being on a motorcycle it was a slow trip. I now avoid the canal road like the plague... too many wanabe race car drivers whom appear to have little respect for other road users. The final straw occurred to me about a year ago when I had to run a red light (One which I had halted for) or I would have been run over by a black pickup that had locked up all 4 wheels. Its a sound that makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck... luckily I always check my mirrors even when stationary so I saw the a-hole coming. I also agree that the roads in and around CM are getting more busy which can lead to driver frustration. This in turn can lead to drivers making erratic/stupid decisions. We as road users have to be aware of this and make adjustments to our driving style accordingly. All that being said, Im glad I live in Mae Rim more so than Hang Dong. 2
MaeJoMTB Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Mae Rim is a great area to live in...IF you don't work and don't have to go into to town to take your kid to school. I go into town once or twice a week during off hours. It's a fifteen minute drive. There are plenty of good restaurants. We buy most of our food at Macro. It always took me 20 minutes to drive in from Don Keow ...... and that's 10Km closer on the same road. You must drive like a complete loony. 2
mesquite Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Rent. Don't buy. This isn't the United States. Edited December 22, 2015 by mesquite 2
Popular Post bazza40 Posted December 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted December 22, 2015 Rent, dammit, rent!!! So easy to buy here, so hard to sell. My landlord has been trying to sell the apartment I'm renting for 3 years now, have never had an inspection by a prospective buyer. I'll probably be in a pine box before he does sell. 3
TravelerEastWest Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Mae Rim is beautiful in the hills. Why not rent a house near Prem and have your kids go to a school that has a green campus and good teachers. If you like night life stay in Chiang Mai. 1
MaeJoMTB Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Note to OP, in case you don't know, Thai government school is free, and entirely suitable for Thai children. The Mae Rim government school is just about as good as you can get. Edited December 22, 2015 by MaeJoMTB
bangmai Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Mae Rim is beautiful in the hills. Why not rent a house near Prem and have your kids go to a school that has a green campus and good teachers. If you like night life stay in Chiang Mai. I couldn't help but notice, Prem, has 15-20 job openings at the moment. 1
CMKiwi Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Prem is also one of the more expensive schools outside of CM proper. It is not free! There are also a lot of teacher vacancies, and although I cannot say why due to the possible legal implications. I new director/Principal has resulted in a lot of long term/time teachers resigning. It appears not is all healthy within the teaching fraternity. I am led to believe that those whom oppose giving credit to children that dont make the grade are under undue pressure to reverse their decisions. Money and hierarchy (Perhaps the Thai way) dont always sit well with western teachers. But that said, there are more schooling avenues to explore in the area. 1
1FinickyOne Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Rent out there for 6 months and you will not need any more info… my guess would be that traffic will eventually get to you as many tourist attractions out that way and that resale value will be minimal and difficult w/any condos and moo bahns.. 1
Trujillo Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 I've lived in a foreigner ghetto (near Doi Saket) .... it was hell on earth, many of the foreigners were the worst sort of scum. Wow, where is this exactly? PM or here.
Dante99 Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Mae Rim is beautiful in the hills. Why not rent a house near Prem and have your kids go to a school that has a green campus and good teachers. If you like night life stay in Chiang Mai. I couldn't help but notice, Prem, has 15-20 job openings at the moment. Where did you get that information? Are you sure that those are currently open positions? Their website seems to show about that number of openings for the next school year which would not be an unusual number.
evenstevens Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Mae Rim is beautiful in the hills. If you like night life stay in Chiang Mai. perhaps out on a small limb BUT nuffin like beverly hills, tambon huay sai a very nice morning to all beautiful maerimites
Ricardo Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Mae Rim is beautiful in the hills. Why not rent a house near Prem and have your kids go to a school that has a green campus and good teachers. If you like night life stay in Chiang Mai. I couldn't help but notice, Prem, has 15-20 job openings at the moment. IME that would be normal, prior to the two annual job-fairs they attend, when Prem fill most/all of their vacant positions. It might well also include their 1-year interns-positions ? Haven't heard any rumours of problems, and as the most-expensive international-school in Chiang Mai, they are also reputed to be the best-paying, which is how they attract such well-qualified teachers. Which is as we parents would wish it to be. I do agree that renting (in Mae Rim) for a while, and then buying later, would be a better way to go, then again it includes all the messing-about of two moves.
bangmai Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Average turnover rates in US public schools is close to 17%. Average is not good in the US. The long list of openings at Prem just raised a red flag, like there is a big house cleaning, or a mass exodus. Maybe someone can give us more detailed information on this specific school.
evenstevens Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 had a sticky beak at green valley condo y/day and must say it looks superb, to the o/p its all about what price the developer will offer to you,as u must take into account the access dispute,if they lose that, your condo price will drop dramactically on the other hand if they win ,then you are on a certain winner,ask the developer for a update on the access dispute its a top notch condo with many pluses, don/t listen to the traffic to c/mai B/S thats been posted, no worse or better then other main roads into c/mai have a look at g/v at night time,it will blow your socks off,and will never be built out ,your sensational views will be there for ever and arguably is the best location in maerim,and maerim is surging along in recent yrs just needs a testco or rimping to put icing on the cake that will come sooner rather then later I.M.O. the best condo in c/mai 1
CMKiwi Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 I heard a whisper that Rimping maybe here sooner than later.... The new market in the Plaza hasn't really been a great success. Word has it that Rimping are seriously looking at that area. If that is so then it's going to be a big store. Time will tell.
evenstevens Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 hot goss around the stables to morning was that g/valley condo first 5 floors will be B2 hotel and that the access dispute was done and dusted in court a long time back, g/v condo have the rights to access through g/v estate the B2 goss is that good or bad?? to buy in now, ????
Popular Post CMKiwi Posted December 27, 2015 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2015 Well there arent that many condos in Mae Rim so if GV is opening some up for B2 then perhaps normal folk may be able to afford them... just joking of course. Not to sure how all the hiso residents are going to like a sudden influx if riffraff! I thought I saw some work beginning a few weeks back on the Ploerim condos up near the waterworks (Just before 4 seasons) A lot of migrant workers on scooters, but then maybe they were just employed for a few days to cut all the weeds down? Glad I didnt get burnt in that shamozzle. I had heard a foreign investor was trying to get it up and running again, good luck with that. Still unsure whats happening with the corner section near the lights that head to Tiger Kingdom. All rip shit and bust for a few weeks and now nothing, seems to be a common trait around these parts. There was word last week that all booze sales were to cease within Mae Rim plaza with effect 1 Jan 2016. Since then the local police boss has said, only those next to or near schools. Still a bit ambigious. I think the coffee shop next to Steak of the Day would have been a bit worried, as too with Simon who owns the place further down. I was thinking we may all end up sitting out in a paddy field in order to comply with these wonderful demands! Oh and I find it hard to believe that these measures are to prevent school kids from drinking...the ones around Mae Rim plaza are just primary kids. Cant really see 5 yr old Johnny popping in at morning break to sink back a few Lao Kow before next class. Such is life.... 4
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