Online banking, share accounts, wi-fi: how "paranoid" are you?

[Craig krup]

You aren't paranoid if they really are out to get you

Moving money from a UK account to a Thai account, or printing off share account pages to prove dividends received, for a lot of people is going to mean using wi-fi. Even if you don't use wi-fi there's always that thought in the back of your mind (or in mine, anyway) that you could have a keystroke logger on the machine, or a "man in the browser" virus.

I try to do cute things like typing huge amounts of junk into a Word document, and then deleting to produce my log in details which I paste into the site. Sometimes I paste in the log in with junk in it, and then delete using the mouse those bits I alone know shouldn't be there.

I'm guessing that proving your income for a visa extension within the country means printing things off immediately before you use them. How worried should a person be? I can't see a condo having anything but wi-fi. Trusteer's Rapport adds an interesting layer of security and supposedly removes most problems even on wi-fi. But I think they make their money from the banks, so I don't know if it would work with a Thai bank.

[phetphet]

Would using a VPN give any protection on a public wifi network?

As far as banking is concerned, I never use public wifi. I only ever do it over my own wifi network, which I hope is more secure than any public one.

[DaveBKK]

Is this a public wifi or your own wifi? If public, never do anything without a VPN. If your own wifi, are you using WPA2 Encryption? Anything else is fairly easily broken.

Also consider in addition to the encryption on the wifi, the browser connection you are making to the bank is also encrypted. You can use this site: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ to test the level of encryption your bank is using.

[laislica]

By default, home routers are usually set to use the highest WiFi Transmit Power as possible.

If you have a private home router with LAN and WiFi abilities.

Connect a computer via the LAN (RJ45) cable and turn down the WiFi Transmit power!

This will restrict access to people outside your home.

It can help even in a condo.

Use the browser to get into the routers configuration.

(Usually 192.268.1,1)

Enter the user name and password. Easy to find the default on Google.

for 3BB User admin, pass 3bb.

Navigate to the WiFi settings and turn down the transmit power on the WiFi until the WiFi starts to fail in the farthest reaches of where you want it to work.

Now increase the power, just a little until the WiFi works reliably.

The closer to the router, the stronger the signal.

As the signal passes through thick concrete, the signal strength drops dramatically.

You MUST use a cable connection to do this because you can easily turn the transmit power so low that WiFi will not work, even on top of the router.

Therefore, if you do this via s WiFi connection, once you can no longer connect, you cannot increase the transmit power again.

EDIT

My router has a power range of 0-20db, it was set at 20.

I have turned it down to 10 and it works well, even in the garden.

Remember that 3db in transmit is double or half, depending on increasing or decreasing power.

So whilst at 20db the range was very high with a setting og 17, I halved the signal strength.

At 14db, half of that again

at 11db, half of that again so the range is much reduced.

Edited December 24, 2015 by laislica

[Jeffrey346]

Very nice post laislica, but unfortunately it's a bunch on nonsense. The router's firewall takes care of the unwanted intruders very well.

@craig krup, your just paranoid. If you want privacy at home turn the broadcast setting in your router off. This way your internet account will not be seen by neighbors or passers by...

When using public wifi, I suggest you use Hola. It's free and doesn't slow your connection down..

Edited December 24, 2015 by Jeffrey346

[bazza40]

Where's chicog?

I use condo WiFi for accessing my overseas accounts. They will refund in the event of computer fraud.

Less likely to get a keystroke logger because I'm not using Windows or Mac OS. Not saying that's 100%, just less likely.

Thai banks? I refuse any form of online connection, which probably puzzles them. Just think how much angst you would have to go through explaining to a Thai teller you've been scammed online.

LOVE the passbook system here. When you need the passbook, passport, face matching the passport, and a signature matching, it's hard to think of a better security system.

[laislica]

Very nice post laislica, but unfortunately it's a bunch on nonsense. The router's firewall takes care of the unwanted intruders very well.

@craig krup, your just paranoid. If you want privacy at home turn the broadcast setting in your router off. This way your internet account will not be seen by neighbors or passers by...

When using public wifi, I suggest you use Hola. It's free and doesn't slow your connection down..

Of course suppressing the SSD is good but it can make it much more difficult for the non experts who may visit to connect to his WiFi.

Although some routers have a device search button.

If you are close to the router, set a WiFi device to search, press the button on the router and on the device tell it to connect.

For WPS etc, this should connect automatically.

I wonder what Hola does in the background? No such thing as a free lunch?

(Hola Networks Ltd., an Israel-based company, launched their network in late 2012, and it started to grow constantly in January 2013 by offering a free product.....

The problem is that if you are a peer, you may get into trouble if other users tunneling the connection through your PC are into illegal activities like hacking or accessing illegal web content. Premium users receive unlimited use per day, Tab VPN and the guarantee that they’re never used as peers.

A history of recently accessed websites or streamed videos will be recorded into your account on their website.

You can access the history anytime and clear it. Privacy-aware users would definitely hate this feature.)

Cutting the transmit power also reduces the radiation so maybe they/he won't need a tin foil hat LOL

http://www.top10bestvpn.com/?kw=hola%20vpn%20review&c=87075305651&t=search&p=&m=e&adpos=1t1&dev=c&devmod=&mobval=0&network=g&campaignid=196833371&adgroupid=21906320171&targetid=kwd-74482076402&interest=2826&physical=1012730&feedid=&ts=&a=1031&gclid=Cj0KEQiAqemzBRDh2vGKmMnqoegBEiQAqJPuyD8nwFzuePaEr4BQDRfZokj4GP4THkWW61N6q2B0yasaAlDO8P8HAQ

Edited December 24, 2015 by laislica

[thailandstupidlife]

Usually it's people who have 20 baht in their account or people who only have personal photos on their computer who fear hacking...

[gandalf12]

Also try using something like TOR Browser or Kaspersky Safe Browser. If you are paranoid and you seem to be do you regularly scan for Malware? If not you should and include everything in the scan including Rootkits.

Further, check to see which ports are open and if not used close them down. There are lots of sites of reputable companies to help you test the security on your computer

[Guest]

(1) You must change the password on your router
(2) Do NOT use WiFi on your home computer, ONLY use a direct cable connection.
(3) Use AVAST Internet protection, and their amazing "SafeBrowser" tool
(4) Double down and use STRONG VPN
(5) Restart your system and at that point, open the VPN, the SafeBrowser, etc .. do your banking. Now, hit Control; Shift Delete and clear all your Cookies etc.

You will have no worries.

By the way, here is how to make an ultra strong password.

Think of a sentence.

"I got my password and 100 bottles of beer at the 7 11"

That is --- igmpa100bob@t711

That, dear friend, is an example of a strong password.

(Example) My password to EBay is 30 mixed characters .. good luck hacking that.

[gandalf12]

If you want to make strong passwords which are randomly generated try the free software from this site:

pwgen-win.sourceforge.net

Put this straight into your browser, download and install the software and you can generate passwords up to 99 digits

Edited December 24, 2015 by gandalf12

[bazza40]

Usually it's people who have 20 baht in their account or people who only have personal photos on their computer who fear hacking...

You have one part of your nom de plume spot on with that comment.

[dotpoom]

"I can't see a condo having anything but wi-fi."

Cannot see why you say that. I'v lived in about 6 condos at different times...always opened an a/c with an internet supplier and had my own router.

[laislica]

"I can't see a condo having anything but wi-fi."

Cannot see why you say that. I'v lived in about 6 condos at different times...always opened an a/c with an internet supplier and had my own router.

I would guess that the owner of a condo could pay money and have a phone line installed.

That is what we have in the moobaan.

There is a router plugged into the line - job done.

In Spain we live in a condo, there was no phone line.

I paid, got the phone fixed and internet.

TiT, if you pay, you mostly get what you want?

[Guest]

If you want to make strong passwords which are randomly generated try the free software from this site:

pwgen-win.sourceforge.net

Put this straight into your browser, download and install the software and you can generate passwords up to 99 digits

Ummmm ... you then have to memorize it, yes? Are you REALLY going to use a password you got on the internet? REALLY???

Since we are looking at the most bizarre of "so lazy, it makes and easy task hard" here, let's try it again.

Here are the lyrics:

Today I don't feel like doing anything

I just wanna lay in my bed

Don't feel like picking up my phone

So leave a message at the tone

'Cause today I swear I'm not doing anything.

Uh!

I'm gonna kick my feet up

Then stare at the fan

Turn the TV on, throw my hand in my pants

Nobody's gonna tell me I can't

I'll be lounging on the couch,

Just chillin' in my snuggie

Click to MTV, so they can teach me how to dougie

'Cause in my castle I'm the freaking man

And here is the password, where all letters "I" are "1" and any word that begins with an "a" becomes @

t1dfld@1jwlimbdflputpslam@ttct1s1ndau1gkmfuts@tftttotmh1mpngtm1c1blotcjcimsctmstctmtdc1mc1tfm

Think you can hack that? And the best part is ... You made it yourself and did not rely on a "super honest website" to CREATE YOUR PASSWORD

Can there be any concept more absurd that logging onto a random site, having it generate your password, then using it?

Dude, "KISS" .. "Keep It SIMPLE Stupid"

[Jeffrey346]

Very nice post laislica, but unfortunately it's a bunch on nonsense. The router's firewall takes care of the unwanted intruders very well.

@craig krup, your just paranoid. If you want privacy at home turn the broadcast setting in your router off. This way your internet account will not be seen by neighbors or passers by...

When using public wifi, I suggest you use Hola. It's free and doesn't slow your connection down..

Of course suppressing the SSD is good but it can make it much more difficult for the non experts who may visit to connect to his WiFi.

Although some routers have a device search button.

If you are close to the router, set a WiFi device to search, press the button on the router and on the device tell it to connect.

For WPS etc, this should connect automatically.

I wonder what Hola does in the background? No such thing as a free lunch?

(Hola Networks Ltd., an Israel-based company, launched their network in late 2012, and it started to grow constantly in January 2013 by offering a free product.....

The problem is that if you are a peer, you may get into trouble if other users tunneling the connection through your PC are into illegal activities like hacking or accessing illegal web content. Premium users receive unlimited use per day, Tab VPN and the guarantee that they’re never used as peers.

A history of recently accessed websites or streamed videos will be recorded into your account on their website.

You can access the history anytime and clear it. Privacy-aware users would definitely hate this feature.)

Cutting the transmit power also reduces the radiation so maybe they/he won't need a tin foil hat LOL

http://www.top10bestvpn.com/?kw=hola%20vpn%20review&c=87075305651&t=search&p=&m=e&adpos=1t1&dev=c&devmod=&mobval=0&network=g&campaignid=196833371&adgroupid=21906320171&targetid=kwd-74482076402&interest=2826&physical=1012730&feedid=&ts=&a=1031&gclid=Cj0KEQiAqemzBRDh2vGKmMnqoegBEiQAqJPuyD8nwFzuePaEr4BQDRfZokj4GP4THkWW61N6q2B0yasaAlDO8P8HAQ

Again, that's a lot of garbage. If you have a guest then you would tell them your SSD. So that becomes a non-issue. As for Hola, you can contribute $5.00 per month which is pretty cheap for unlimited VPN service with no cap on how many devices are connected. I have tried multiple VPN's and Hola is one that doesn't slow your connection to a crawl.

How does Hola protect my privacy and security?

We have built Hola for you, and with your privacy and security in mind. Hola routes your traffic through other nodes in the Hola network, making your IP harder to track, thus allowing you to be more anonymous and secure. When your device is not in use, other packets of information from other people may be routed through your device. Hola does this securely, not allowing any access to any of your information. Your device is used only as a router. As with any new technology, in addition to the benefits it brings there can be work arounds (such as in WiFi where malicious people can try to hijack your WiFi hotspot). Thus, Hola invests in protecting you and closing these work arounds as they are identified. We also do not collect, store or sell your personal identifiable information (PII), and never will

Edited December 25, 2015 by Jeffrey346

[CaptHaddock]

Lots of misinformation here. The OP's main concerns are a keystroke logger in his computer and eavesdropping on his wifi connection while he has a session with his bank.

1. The best protection against a keystroke logger is not to browse the internet with a computer that you also use for money transactions to avoid infection by a keystroke logger in the first place. You don't actually need a second physical computer though. You can download a linux CD image, burn it to a CD, and then boot from that to connect to your bank. There are many, for instance, knoppix:

http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

Even if your computer already has become infected with a keystroke logger, it will not be able to start if you boot from a CD instead of the hard drive. You don't need to know much about linux just to start up the browser. No need to worry about viruses, adware, keystroke loggers, bloatware, or other malware.

2. When you connect to a bank website you are using HTTPS which is an encrypted communications protocol. Using an additional encryption layer like a VPN would not add any additional protection for the session. The VPN would protect unencrypted communication like HTTP browsing or email, but your session with the bank website is already secure from eavesdropping.

However, the larger point is that most of the actual risk in the real world does not originate on your own computer at all, although all of the uninformed people believe it does. In a career in IT in financial institutions I have noticed that end-users, all of whom lack basic knowledge of how systems work, always start the discussion by proposing their favorite solution, just like the OP. By contrast, the engineering approach is to start by identifying the problem. In this case, where is the likely risk to his assets at the bank?

Not on his own computer at all, as it turns out. The likeliest attack is on the bank's own computers. Or brokerage firm or credit card issuer. I have heard statistics estimating that as much as 97% of the losses originate on the institution's computers, not the users'. I would certainly expect a US bank to make me whole in such a case, but would not want to test it. The only defense for the end-user is to spread your money among several banks since you are incapable of assessing the risk management of particular banks.

Edited December 25, 2015 by CaptHaddock

[2fishin2]

I have never been "hacked" at least not my computer. I use free AVG, Windows, no VPN or any other malware protection etc. The key to it all is safe internet browsing. Do not go to sites where hacking occurs ie torrents, porn. Do not open emails from people you dont know and even if you know them, check the details of where the email comes from to insure its not fishing. I used condo/hotel internet with no problems. I consider myself lucky.

[laislica]

Very nice post laislica, but unfortunately it's a bunch on nonsense. The router's firewall takes care of the unwanted intruders very well.

@craig krup, your just paranoid. If you want privacy at home turn the broadcast setting in your router off. This way your internet account will not be seen by neighbors or passers by...

When using public wifi, I suggest you use Hola. It's free and doesn't slow your connection down..

Of course suppressing the SSD is good but it can make it much more difficult for the non experts who may visit to connect to his WiFi.

Although some routers have a device search button.

If you are close to the router, set a WiFi device to search, press the button on the router and on the device tell it to connect.

For WPS etc, this should connect automatically.

I wonder what Hola does in the background? No such thing as a free lunch?

(Hola Networks Ltd., an Israel-based company, launched their network in late 2012, and it started to grow constantly in January 2013 by offering a free product.....

The problem is that if you are a peer, you may get into trouble if other users tunneling the connection through your PC are into illegal activities like hacking or accessing illegal web content. Premium users receive unlimited use per day, Tab VPN and the guarantee that they’re never used as peers.

A history of recently accessed websites or streamed videos will be recorded into your account on their website.

You can access the history anytime and clear it. Privacy-aware users would definitely hate this feature.)

Cutting the transmit power also reduces the radiation so maybe they/he won't need a tin foil hat LOL

http://www.top10bestvpn.com/?kw=hola%20vpn%20review&c=87075305651&t=search&p=&m=e&adpos=1t1&dev=c&devmod=&mobval=0&network=g&campaignid=196833371&adgroupid=21906320171&targetid=kwd-74482076402&interest=2826&physical=1012730&feedid=&ts=&a=1031&gclid=Cj0KEQiAqemzBRDh2vGKmMnqoegBEiQAqJPuyD8nwFzuePaEr4BQDRfZokj4GP4THkWW61N6q2B0yasaAlDO8P8HAQ

Again, that's a lot of garbage. If you have a guest then you would tell them your SSD. So that becomes a non-issue. As for Hola, you can contribute $5.00 per month which is pretty cheap for unlimited VPN service with no cap on how many devices are connected. I have tried multiple VPN's and Hola is one that doesn't slow your connection to a crawl.

How does Hola protect my privacy and security?

We have built Hola for you, and with your privacy and security in mind. Hola routes your traffic through other nodes in the Hola network, making your IP harder to track, thus allowing you to be more anonymous and secure. When your device is not in use, other packets of information from other people may be routed through your device. Hola does this securely, not allowing any access to any of your information. Your device is used only as a router. As with any new technology, in addition to the benefits it brings there can be work arounds (such as in WiFi where malicious people can try to hijack your WiFi hotspot). Thus, Hola invests in protecting you and closing these work arounds as they are identified. We also do not collect, store or sell your personal identifiable information (PII), and never will

So why do you have to make a personal attack.

Why can you not be civil?

Methinks Thou dos't protest too much (in defense of Hola)!

What if I think you speak GARBAGE

How do you like that?

Anyway, tis the season og good will so Have a nice time.......

[Jeffrey346]

Very nice post laislica, but unfortunately it's a bunch on nonsense. The router's firewall takes care of the unwanted intruders very well.

@craig krup, your just paranoid. If you want privacy at home turn the broadcast setting in your router off. This way your internet account will not be seen by neighbors or passers by...

When using public wifi, I suggest you use Hola. It's free and doesn't slow your connection down..

Of course suppressing the SSD is good but it can make it much more difficult for the non experts who may visit to connect to his WiFi.

Although some routers have a device search button.

If you are close to the router, set a WiFi device to search, press the button on the router and on the device tell it to connect.

For WPS etc, this should connect automatically.

I wonder what Hola does in the background? No such thing as a free lunch?

(Hola Networks Ltd., an Israel-based company, launched their network in late 2012, and it started to grow constantly in January 2013 by offering a free product.....

The problem is that if you are a peer, you may get into trouble if other users tunneling the connection through your PC are into illegal activities like hacking or accessing illegal web content. Premium users receive unlimited use per day, Tab VPN and the guarantee that they’re never used as peers.

A history of recently accessed websites or streamed videos will be recorded into your account on their website.

You can access the history anytime and clear it. Privacy-aware users would definitely hate this feature.)

Cutting the transmit power also reduces the radiation so maybe they/he won't need a tin foil hat LOL

http://www.top10bestvpn.com/?kw=hola%20vpn%20review&c=87075305651&t=search&p=&m=e&adpos=1t1&dev=c&devmod=&mobval=0&network=g&campaignid=196833371&adgroupid=21906320171&targetid=kwd-74482076402&interest=2826&physical=1012730&feedid=&ts=&a=1031&gclid=Cj0KEQiAqemzBRDh2vGKmMnqoegBEiQAqJPuyD8nwFzuePaEr4BQDRfZokj4GP4THkWW61N6q2B0yasaAlDO8P8HAQ

Again, that's a lot of garbage. If you have a guest then you would tell them your SSD. So that becomes a non-issue. As for Hola, you can contribute $5.00 per month which is pretty cheap for unlimited VPN service with no cap on how many devices are connected. I have tried multiple VPN's and Hola is one that doesn't slow your connection to a crawl.

How does Hola protect my privacy and security?

We have built Hola for you, and with your privacy and security in mind. Hola routes your traffic through other nodes in the Hola network, making your IP harder to track, thus allowing you to be more anonymous and secure. When your device is not in use, other packets of information from other people may be routed through your device. Hola does this securely, not allowing any access to any of your information. Your device is used only as a router. As with any new technology, in addition to the benefits it brings there can be work arounds (such as in WiFi where malicious people can try to hijack your WiFi hotspot). Thus, Hola invests in protecting you and closing these work arounds as they are identified. We also do not collect, store or sell your personal identifiable information (PII), and never will

So why do you have to make a personal attack.

Why can you not be civil?

Methinks Thou dos't protest too much (in defense of Hola)!

What if I think you speak GARBAGE

How do you like that?

Anyway, tis the season og good will so Have a nice time.......

Garbage is garbage.. Isn't it??

[laislica]

Of course suppressing the SSD is good but it can make it much more difficult for the non experts who may visit to connect to his WiFi.

Although some routers have a device search button.

If you are close to the router, set a WiFi device to search, press the button on the router and on the device tell it to connect.

For WPS etc, this should connect automatically.

I wonder what Hola does in the background? No such thing as a free lunch?

(Hola Networks Ltd., an Israel-based company, launched their network in late 2012, and it started to grow constantly in January 2013 by offering a free product.....

The problem is that if you are a peer, you may get into trouble if other users tunneling the connection through your PC are into illegal activities like hacking or accessing illegal web content. Premium users receive unlimited use per day, Tab VPN and the guarantee that they’re never used as peers.

A history of recently accessed websites or streamed videos will be recorded into your account on their website.

You can access the history anytime and clear it. Privacy-aware users would definitely hate this feature.)

Cutting the transmit power also reduces the radiation so maybe they/he won't need a tin foil hat LOL

http://www.top10bestvpn.com/?kw=hola%20vpn%20review&c=87075305651&t=search&p=&m=e&adpos=1t1&dev=c&devmod=&mobval=0&network=g&campaignid=196833371&adgroupid=21906320171&targetid=kwd-74482076402&interest=2826&physical=1012730&feedid=&ts=&a=1031&gclid=Cj0KEQiAqemzBRDh2vGKmMnqoegBEiQAqJPuyD8nwFzuePaEr4BQDRfZokj4GP4THkWW61N6q2B0yasaAlDO8P8HAQ

Again, that's a lot of garbage. If you have a guest then you would tell them your SSD. So that becomes a non-issue. As for Hola, you can contribute $5.00 per month which is pretty cheap for unlimited VPN service with no cap on how many devices are connected. I have tried multiple VPN's and Hola is one that doesn't slow your connection to a crawl.

How does Hola protect my privacy and security?

We have built Hola for you, and with your privacy and security in mind. Hola routes your traffic through other nodes in the Hola network, making your IP harder to track, thus allowing you to be more anonymous and secure. When your device is not in use, other packets of information from other people may be routed through your device. Hola does this securely, not allowing any access to any of your information. Your device is used only as a router. As with any new technology, in addition to the benefits it brings there can be work arounds (such as in WiFi where malicious people can try to hijack your WiFi hotspot). Thus, Hola invests in protecting you and closing these work arounds as they are identified. We also do not collect, store or sell your personal identifiable information (PII), and never will

So why do you have to make a personal attack.

Why can you not be civil?

Methinks Thou dos't protest too much (in defense of Hola)!

What if I think you speak GARBAGE

How do you like that?

Anyway, tis the season og good will so Have a nice time.......

Garbage is garbage.. Isn't it??

Well I suppose if you choose to believe the garbage that the makers feed you over Reviews than more fool you.

[Chivas]

Surely if you were unfortunate to get your online Bank Accounts hacked the worse than can happen is that the hacker can transfer the funds out of your account but its clearly got to go somewhere for them to access it. Easily traceable ??

Either way your own Bank will reinstate

[Pib]

By the way, here is how to make an ultra strong password.

Think of a sentence.

"I got my password and 100 bottles of beer at the 7 11"

That is --- igmpa100bob@t711

That, dear friend, is an example of a strong password.

(Example) My password to EBay is 30 mixed characters .. good luck hacking that.

Definitely a good approach if you can remember the decoding sentence/phrase and the sites you log onto will accept the letter-number-symbol combo. Problems with that approach can occur when some sites require a password change every X-months and also keep track of you last X-number of password changes and will not allow you to reuse older passwords. If sticking with the decoder sentence approach then you begin having multiple sentences to remember.

For me using a password manager that encrypts your logon credentials and automatically inserts the credentials into the login screen which bypasses keylogger issues is a good way to go. No need to remember password sentences.

[CaptHaddock]

By the way, here is how to make an ultra strong password.

Think of a sentence.

"I got my password and 100 bottles of beer at the 7 11"

That is --- igmpa100bob@t711

That, dear friend, is an example of a strong password.

(Example) My password to EBay is 30 mixed characters .. good luck hacking that.

Definitely a good approach if you can remember the decoding sentence/phrase and the sites you log onto will accept the letter-number-symbol combo. Problems with that approach can occur when some sites require a password change every X-months and also keep track of you last X-number of password changes and will not allow you to reuse older passwords. If sticking with the decoder sentence approach then you begin having multiple sentences to remember.

For me using a password manager that encrypts your logon credentials and automatically inserts the credentials into the login screen which bypasses keylogger issues is a good way to go. No need to remember password sentences.

That's right on the password manager. And then be sure never to store your password data, even encrypted, in somebody's cloud.

[Digitalbanana]

Can there be any concept more absurd that logging onto a random site, having it generate your password, then using it?

+1

[laislica]

Can there be any concept more absurd that logging onto a random site, having it generate your password, then using it?

+1

Yeah, so much safer to keep all your passwords unencrypted written down on that slip of paper you keep in your wallet and backed up as plain text on your computer, ipad, phone, even in an email to self etc.

Just wait, you will get older, the memory battery starts to run down.....

Then what?

[Rob13]

You can download a linux CD image, burn it to a CD, and then boot from that to connect to your bank.

I have a USB drive with Ubuntu on it that I use when I do my banking. Pretty much the same as a second computer. It only ever connects to my banks which lowers the virus and hackware risks. No problems so far.

Edited December 27, 2015 by Rob13

[MrTee]

If you want to make strong passwords which are randomly generated try the free software from this site:

pwgen-win.sourceforge.net

Put this straight into your browser, download and install the software and you can generate passwords up to 99 digits

Can there be any concept more absurd that logging onto a random site, having it generate your password, then using it?

Can there be any concept more absurd than making a comment on technology you clearly do not understand?

The Software Gandalf12 kindly supplied a link to is a random string generator that runs on your machine.. as it comes from Sourceforge it is open source. if it is open source it means the code, not that I'd expect you to understand C++, can be, and is, examined by many other users who would understand the type of risks you fear..

A random password generator randomly generates strings, you can generate as many as you want.

Beside how would using a password generated on a random site be absurd?

How would they know which of the 100s of passwords you generated you end up using?

How would any site know where you do your banking or what your username is?

"t1dfld@1jwlimbdflputpslam@ttct1s1ndau1gkmfuts@tftttotmh1mpngtm1c1blotcjcimsctmstctmtdc1mc1tfm"

You really think that all websites can store 93 character passwords?

Using 93 Character pass you'll soon find your self locked out of your account.. but hey it was a good thought, just not well thought through.

Many site are limited to storing 10 or 16, for example Hotmail\Outlook OWA is maximum 16 characters.

And yes I think your account can be hacked even with a 93 Char password.

Clearly you lack any knowledge about how hacking works.. you best be careful out there.

Personally I use a password manager to store all my password so that I never have to "type in" my passwords; other than the master password.

err, Dude, "KISS" .. "Keep It SIMPLE Stupid"

Edited December 27, 2015 by MrTee

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If you want to make strong passwords which are randomly generated try the free software from this site:

pwgen-win.sourceforge.net

Put this straight into your browser, download and install the software and you can generate passwords up to 99 digits

Can there be any concept more absurd that logging onto a random site, having it generate your password, then using it?

Can there be any concept more absurd than making a comment on technology you clearly do not understand?

The Software Gandalf12 kindly supplied a link to is a random string generator that runs on your machine.. as it comes from Sourceforge it is open source. if it is open source it means the code, not that I'd expect you to understand C++, can be, and is, examined by many other users who would understand the type of risks you fear..

A random password generator randomly generates strings, you can generate as many as you want.

Beside how would using a password generated on a random site be absurd?

How would they know which of the 100s of passwords you generated you end up using?

How would any site know where you do your banking or what your username is?

"t1dfld@1jwlimbdflputpslam@ttct1s1ndau1gkmfuts@tftttotmh1mpngtm1c1blotcjcimsctmstctmtdc1mc1tfm"

You really think that all websites can store 93 character passwords?

Using 93 Character pass you'll soon find your self locked out of your account.. but hey it was a good thought, just not well thought through.

Many site are limited to storing 10 or 16, for example Hotmail\Outlook OWA is maximum 16 characters.

And yes I think your account can be hacked even with a 93 Char password.

Clearly you lack any knowledge about how hacking works.. you best be careful out there.

Personally I use a password manager to store all my password so that I never have to "type in" my passwords; other than the master password.

err, Dude, "KISS" .. "Keep It SIMPLE Stupid"

What an unnecessarily rude and abusive post!

I must assume that diplomacy is not a strong skill for you.

and C++ - a language for pussies!

Do it properly in assembler LOL

<Snip>err, Dude, "KISS" .. "Keep It SIMPLE Stupid"<Snip>

Happy New Year 2016.

[MrTee]

If you want to make strong passwords which are randomly generated try the free software from this site:

pwgen-win.sourceforge.net

Put this straight into your browser, download and install the software and you can generate passwords up to 99 digits

Can there be any concept more absurd that logging onto a random site, having it generate your password, then using it?

Can there be any concept more absurd than making a comment on technology you clearly do not understand?

The Software Gandalf12 kindly supplied a link to is a random string generator that runs on your machine.. as it comes from Sourceforge it is open source. if it is open source it means the code, not that I'd expect you to understand C++, can be, and is, examined by many other users who would understand the type of risks you fear..

A random password generator randomly generates strings, you can generate as many as you want.

Beside how would using a password generated on a random site be absurd?

How would they know which of the 100s of passwords you generated you end up using?

How would any site know where you do your banking or what your username is?

"t1dfld@1jwlimbdflputpslam@ttct1s1ndau1gkmfuts@tftttotmh1mpngtm1c1blotcjcimsctmstctmtdc1mc1tfm"

You really think that all websites can store 93 character passwords?

Using 93 Character pass you'll soon find your self locked out of your account.. but hey it was a good thought, just not well thought through.

Many site are limited to storing 10 or 16, for example Hotmail\Outlook OWA is maximum 16 characters.

And yes I think your account can be hacked even with a 93 Char password.

Clearly you lack any knowledge about how hacking works.. you best be careful out there.

Personally I use a password manager to store all my password so that I never have to "type in" my passwords; other than the master password.

err, Dude, "KISS" .. "Keep It SIMPLE Stupid"

What an unnecessarily rude and abusive post!

I must assume that diplomacy is not a strong skill for you.

and C++ - a language for pussies!

Do it properly in assembler LOL

<Snip>err, Dude, "KISS" .. "Keep It SIMPLE Stupid"<Snip>

Happy New Year 2016.

Happy New Year to you too.

I didn't write the code, I would have used a different language, but that is irrelevant. my point was the person I responded to clearly has no clue about IT..

And if you can write AES256 encryption in assembler then hats off to you. I'd wager that you once wrote a counter in Assembler, but as far as developing software with a GUI in any Assembler - Mah mate

If you look back on the thread, you see I copied the KISS statement from the original poster..

I felt that was rude, so I was kind of hoping to give them a taste of their own stuff.

I guess that'll teach me to remove the nonsense from quoted posts.

PS goto #15 ;to see original post

RETI

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Edited December 27, 2015 by MrTee