webfact Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Thai police defend Koh Tao murders investigationsThe NationBANGKOK: -- Police Spokesman Pol General Dejnarong Sutticharnbancha Sunday held a press conference alongside investigators, forensic officials and forensic doctors to boost public confidence in the police investigation and gathering of evidence."We work based on the principle of transparency and fairness," he said.He said the public could have confidence in Thailand's judicial process because there were effective check-and-balance mechanisms in the process.Koh Pha Ngan Police Station's superintendent Pol Colonel Prachum Ruangthong said public prosecutors had asked police to improve investigation report three times before the case was accepted for prosecution."We have handled the case very carefully," he said.He denied reports that the defendants were tortured into confessing to the crimes."Those reports are groundless. Doctors have examined the defendants' physical health and there is no sign of torture," Prachum said.He also denied rumours that police had relied on the interpretation services of a man who had had conflicts with the defendants. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Thai-police-defend-Koh-Tao-murders-investigations-30275774.html -- The Nation 2015-12-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jucel Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) "We work based on the principle of transparency and fairness," he said. About as transparent as klong water. How dare he come out with such absolute lies. How are these people allowed to speak such BS on a daily basis. From TAT to police to army spokesman, lies all day everyday. Edited December 27, 2015 by jucel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docshock13 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 The sheer arrogance is astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) Incredible..just incredible...How low can the authorities in a country go to come out with this B*******. And you really get the impression they believe it....I have heard of the corruption and what happens in stitch ups in Thailand and although I have experience at a very low level ie police jumped up road traffic offences, I've never really followed anything more involved before.. They are so bad it's almost unbelievable ...A sad situation coming from a slowly sinking country... Edited December 27, 2015 by Nigeone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowin Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 They will get their just reward or have they already got it. No more looking for tea money here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jing jing Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I've found that a useful tool for interpreting/decoding most, if not all public statements made by Thai police or politicians is to take whatever they say, and deduce the truth to be precisely the polar opposite. It's uncanny how accurately this method works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Standard ops for sure. So often when in the face of scrutiny where evidence of wrongdoing / mismanagement et al is plentiful and available for all to see, they just spin BS stories ad nauseum. Pathetic, embarrassing, disgraceful. It's all that all of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthEnergiser Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 "The case files of the Thai forensic lab should have been provided to the defence," Ms Taupin said. "This is so the scientific data contained within, and used to provide conclusions, could be examined for a scientific review. "The essence of scientific method is the testing and review of hypotheses. If these are not viewed, or even stated, then this does not inspire confidence in the scientific analysis. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35170419 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aj Mick Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Handled the case very carefully to ensure that their reputation for corruption and incompetence remains intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) "Those reports are groundless. Doctors have examined the defendants' physical health and there is no sign of torture," Prachum said. Water boarding and rubber hoses don't leave any physical signs. That might be the only "professional law enforcement procedure" the police carried out skillfully. Edited December 27, 2015 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebag Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Ah well if such an independent trustworthy authority says it was all fine and transparent it must be so! Ye gods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunter Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 So sad to see yet another nail being driven into the coffin of Thailand by my fellow countrymen.They will answer for their misdeeds but Thailand in general will suffer too if these people are not weeded out of the system . Corruption has to be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 After the construction of a huge massive whopper of a lie, a relatively low-level denial of blatantly apparent truths is a walk in the park for these guys. Add some white-coated doctors and scientists for effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Had everything been above board and beyond reasonable doubt, the RTP would not need to comment like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Un-froggin- believable! But to be expected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The RTP cannot defend something that didn't exist. Just sayin' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 "We work based on the principle of transparency and fairness," he said. Actually, there was almost NO transparency given that reporters could not bring any recording devices into the court room and if I remember right, they could not even take notes. That is the opposite of transparency. This case was biased from the very start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 It is not that they believe what they are telling . They expect Thai people to accept it because they say so, and they expect Thai people not to make them lose face by calling BS. And they simply do not understand why Farang do not accept it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 "Koh Pha Ngan Police Station's superintendent Pol Colonel Prachum Ruangthong said public prosecutors had asked police to improve investigation report three times before the case was accepted for prosecution." Improve? 3 times eh? Improve, yeah, sure you did, sure you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Standard ops for sure. So often when in the face of scrutiny where evidence of wrongdoing / mismanagement et al is plentiful and available for all to see, they just spin BS stories ad nauseum. Pathetic, embarrassing, disgraceful. It's all that all of the time "there were no signs of physical injury" how strange. Whatever happened to the Scotland Yard report? I'd have more faith in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash999 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 More useful would be a point by point rebuttal. Wasn't the alleged issue with the translator that he was just a noodle vendor so wasn't qualified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 "He denied reports that the defendants were tortured into confessing to the crimes. "Those reports are groundless. Doctors have examined the defendants' physical health and there is no sign of torture," Prachum said." Yeah, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysilly Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Thai police?? What a joke!!! The boys are innocent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 More useful would be a point by point rebuttal. Wasn't the alleged issue with the translator that he was just a noodle vendor so wasn't qualified? His ability to read and speak Thai, ability to speak the dialect of the accused and impartiality have also been questioned. However I'm led to believe his pancakes were edible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbarch Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 If what the Thai police say, that everything was done properly, then there can be no objection to an independent and foreign Police force reviewing the evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 of course they said they did a good job and "We work based on the principle of transparency and fairness," he said. What are they going to do, admit they were wrong? That would never happen, better to execute two innocent young men than to act like real men. Shame and disgrace will never be felt here because that would mean loss of face. You've already lost by thinking you've won. It's times like these I hope there is a god and pray for judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Unfortunately this is not the first time that criminal trials have been held with the verdict a forgone conclusion in a capital case Since history is censored here there have been a lot of scapegoats tried and convicted of crimes that they could not possibly have committed but because of "face" no appeals court will step in and right any wrong, even when it results in the death penalty You have to go outside of Thailand to find historical accounts of just how corrupt the legal system in this country really is With the way things are going here in Thailand, Thai Visa might not even be able to repeat the title The Devil's Discus by Rayne Kruger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X pat Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 What ever it takes to save face,even if they have to kill innocent people. As you sow so shell you reap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiamaster Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 "Those reports are groundless. Doctors have examined the defendants' physical health and there is no sign of torture," Prachum said. Water boarding and rubber hoses don't leave any physical signs. That might be the only "professional law enforcement procedure" the police carried out skillfully. Did the B2 provide any details of how they were tortured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Mafia is more powerful than police, Corruption IS the law in Smile-land And now give the rewards to yourselves..... Edited December 28, 2015 by MaxLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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