SecurityGuardWontSaluteMe Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Isnt this figure too much? Any authorities which I can complain to? I complained to the management, they said this is the market rate. I dont beleive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift? Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts? Or is it paid to a security company? But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee? Edited January 7, 2016 by Gsxrnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 minimum wage is 300 baht per day I believe, so x 7=2100 x 4 weeks = around 8400 per month. even if you doubled it, which would be high for that job, its only 16k They probably enter it into accounts as 30k and pocket 20 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecurityGuardWontSaluteMe Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift? Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts? Or is it paid to a security company? But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee? I calculated it to be per head. Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) OP - then if that expense is only for wages it's obviously a rip-off. I'd say 10k is about the going rate for wages (in Pattaya at least). I know girls working as waitresses and they are on 10k for a 10-12 hour shift. But look into it further. Maybe that expense also covers overheads such as uniforms, equipment, maintenance of cameras, employer social security contributions, health insurance etc. Like many things, the devil is in the detail. You have to thoroughly understand the detail of the financial document you've been provided. Edit: You also have to allow for days off. Eight staff would have a combined total of between 16 and 32 days off per month, requiring extra staff (and expense) to cover them. So while there may be eight staff on duty any one time, the actual payroll headcount may well be higher. Edited January 7, 2016 by Gsxrnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift? Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts? Or is it paid to a security company? But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee? I calculated it to be per head. Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total. How much are you charged a month for security contribution/maintenance? If you multiply that by the number of occupants, and come near to 280k/pm, then that should be about right.......................... If not, and the management won't tell you, ask the guards how much they get a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The going rate for one guard for one shift from a Thai security company is around 16-17kB/month. So one guard during the day and one at night, 7 days a week, will cost around 32-34kB/month. The guard himself will receive less, of course. From a farang company add about 30-40%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokKen Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 And an English Teacher with a degree gets 20K lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Have there been any thefts in the building ? If not, then its money well spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionsreplies Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Clearly ridiculous to believe this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteman Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 And an English Teacher with a degree gets 20K lol And one with out a degree gets 21k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Clearly ridiculous to believe this. Absolutely! What a nonsense. 35k: maybe payment to a security company for a whole 24/7 package of the condo. A security guard (greeter) getting 35k, Isan would be finally emptied out of males. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardokano Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 minimum wage is 300 baht per day I believe, so x 7=2100 x 4 weeks = around 8400 per month. even if you doubled it, which would be high for that job, its only 16k They probably enter it into accounts as 30k and pocket 20 !! per day? 24 hour work? and if its minimal its not mean its mast be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Anyone looked at the status of the troll OP's previous threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Clearly ridiculous to believe this. Yes and even if it is true why does the op has to complain about it ? Is he complaining about his own wages ? I guess not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Anyone looked at the status of the troll OP's previous threads? Time to close (at least for me). Psycho. Forgot to extend my ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 He is complaining because SecurityGuardWontSaluteMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobin Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Say, CharlieH. Don't you think your statements about the management 'stealing' 20K baht per month could be construed as 'libel'? After all, stealing is illegal and you are accusing them of that very crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I calculated it to be per head. Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total. Yes, but how many per shift? If you directly employ 3 guards during the day and 3 at night, plus 2 gardeners only during the day, that makes 8 shifts per month. If one assumes that security guards and gardeners earn the same then each will earn 35kB/month/shift, which is nonsense. But if you have 6 guards on duty day and night that makes 14 shifts, or 20kB/month/shift. Are you sure that other staff or other items aren't included in that wage bill? And what happens about holiday and day off cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift? Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts? Or is it paid to a security company? But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee? I calculated it to be per head. Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total. Are they employees of the condo or are they sourced through contract companies ? I suspect they are contractors. The lions share of the 280k is not going to the people on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift? Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts? Or is it paid to a security company? But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee? I calculated it to be per head. Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total. Only one way to deal with this. Form a residence committee, hold a meeting and demand your managing agent issues a full break down of accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I calculated it to be per head. Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total. Yes, but how many per shift? If you directly employ 3 guards during the day and 3 at night, plus 2 gardeners only during the day, that makes 8 shifts per month. If one assumes that security guards and gardeners earn the same then each will earn 35kB/month/shift, which is nonsense. But if you have 6 guards on duty day and night that makes 14 shifts, or 20kB/month/shift. Are you sure that other staff or other items aren't included in that wage bill? And what happens about holiday and day off cover? Does the 2 gardeners and 6 security guards include the manager and the handyman and the cleaners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puffy Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You need to complain to the newly set up Government agency called Imagine. There email address is [email protected]. Is this the same guard that is banging your wife and refuses to salute you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sead Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 maybe hes multitasking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Perhaps your condo security guard has a few extra life costs he needs to take care of, you or all people ought to understand how expensive that can be. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/873054-my-wife-is-too-friendly-towards-the-security-guard/#entry10111925 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Is that what they pay one guy for working a 12 hour shift? Or is it paid to two or three guys (in total) for various shifts? Or is it paid to a security company? But more importantly, is the guard a relation of anybody on the management committee? I calculated it to be per head. Total wage bill is 280k/pm. We have 2 gardeners and 6 security guards in total. Is there 'padding' or 'leakage' somewhere in the calculation / payment process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRight Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Have there been any thefts in the building ? If not, then its money well spent Would you like to buy some shark repellent? I use it everyday and have never been attacked by a shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 they had to find people who wanted to salute you and they don't come cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Our condo pays the security guard 35k baht/pm well good for them ..... nice to see someone is honest !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabC Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 This guy is great, not only is the security guard not saluting him, he's flirting with his wife whilst earning a fortune......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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