naboo Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I find quite a lot of farang, when they age, start to get stingy, grumpy and eccentric. Aren't us Brits born that way? Or am I just aging really fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Obviously a few baht is neither here nor there. Perhaps the annoyance at dual pricing is because after long term residence it would simply be nice not to be discriminated against......to feel at home. I guess that is amplified when one pays income tax without some important benefits that that tax contributes to, meaning one is essentially contributing more. I'd say there's a genetic aversion to unfairness, certainly to others and this may be an example of an aversion against unfairness to oneself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Ok the average thai probably makes 12000 baht A month.i was making 200000 baht A month til I retired.Now I still have A 50000 Baht A month income.So for that I don't have any problem paying more.And when I go to A restaurant or taxi etc I give 15-20% Tip.The average Thai don't make big money.I'm in their country I don't mind helping out. Do you offer to pay 150% extra when you go shopping? Edited January 12, 2016 by MESmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrilled Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 MESmith.To tell ya the truth I don't shop much in Thailand.But at Tesco I could possibly pay 150% more.But I believe if you paid that much more you' stay in England,Germany,Australia or where ever your from,lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ok the average thai probably makes 12000 baht A month.i was making 200000 baht A month til I retired.Now I still have A 50000 Baht A month income.So for that I don't have any problem paying more.And when I go to A restaurant or taxi etc I give 15-20% Tip.The average Thai don't make big money.I'm in their country I don't mind helping out. Do you offer to pay 150% extra when you go shopping? When I stop at the petrol station and see diesel at 20bht/l I always say, 'I'm a very rich foreigner and in my country earn 100x your wage, let me pay 100bht/l' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ok the average thai probably makes 12000 baht A month.i was making 200000 baht A month til I retired.Now I still have A 50000 Baht A month income.So for that I don't have any problem paying more.And when I go to A restaurant or taxi etc I give 15-20% Tip.The average Thai don't make big money.I'm in their country I don't mind helping out. Do you offer to pay 150% extra when you go shopping? When I stop at the petrol station and see diesel at 20bht/l I always say, 'I'm a very rich foreigner and in my country earn 100x your wage, let me pay 100bht/l' I make it easier for them. I just indicate for them to bill my credit card twice. I feel everyone will respect and love me more if I do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Obviously a few baht is neither here nor there. Perhaps the annoyance at dual pricing is because after long term residence it would simply be nice not to be discriminated against......to feel at home. I guess that is amplified when one pays income tax without some important benefits that that tax contributes to, meaning one is essentially contributing more. I'd say there's a genetic aversion to unfairness, certainly to others and this may be an example of an aversion against unfairness to oneself. it's 1 GBP and not worth inconveniencing the queue of cars behind you. we know they are xenophobic so here's a book recommendation for you. have a nice day Edited January 13, 2016 by LannaGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunyod Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Obviously a few baht is neither here nor there. Perhaps the annoyance at dual pricing is because after long term residence it would simply be nice not to be discriminated against......to feel at home. I guess that is amplified when one pays income tax without some important benefits that that tax contributes to, meaning one is essentially contributing more. I'd say there's a genetic aversion to unfairness, certainly to others and this may be an example of an aversion against unfairness to oneself. it's 1 GBP and not worth inconveniencing the queue of cars behind you. we know they are xenophobic so here's a book recommendation for you. have a nice day Ah yes, Richard Carlson, PhD. He got that degree from a 7th day adventist La Sierra University that teaches creationism, and whose highest degree awarded is an EdD. Similar to John Grey PhD the "Men are from Mars" guy, whose PhD is actually a correspondence course, non-accredited. Popular books, basically pablum, ok if one is a bit obsessed. Obituary: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/richard-carlson-430230.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Obviously a few baht is neither here nor there. Perhaps the annoyance at dual pricing is because after long term residence it would simply be nice not to be discriminated against......to feel at home. I guess that is amplified when one pays income tax without some important benefits that that tax contributes to, meaning one is essentially contributing more. I'd say there's a genetic aversion to unfairness, certainly to others and this may be an example of an aversion against unfairness to oneself. it's 1 GBP and not worth inconveniencing the queue of cars behind you. we know they are xenophobic so here's a book recommendation for you. have a nice day Ah yes, Richard Carlson, PhD. He got that degree from a 7th day adventist La Sierra University that teaches creationism, and whose highest degree awarded is an EdD. Similar to John Grey PhD the "Men are from Mars" guy, whose PhD is actually a correspondence course, non-accredited. Popular books, basically pablum, ok if one is a bit obsessed. Obituary: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/richard-carlson-430230.html his point is valid and it sold millions and spent an eternity on the New York Times Bestseller list but perhaps you have done the same? my point IS 1 pound is not worth holding up a queue of people who want to have a nice day out - back on topic please Edited January 13, 2016 by LannaGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunsakda Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Look at the behaviour of many so-called “Farangs”, we have made it too easy for them. Not surprised operators of Huay Tong Tau are cashing in on the massive Fleecing which is Thai tourism. A general failure to integrate and adapt to local conditions, inability to bargain with merchants, paying double for transport almost as a matter of course.Voluntarily throwing “tips” around as to remain in ones' comfort zone.Stuffing gullet with “Sunday Roasts” and imported beverages when good local tucker is cheap and plentiful.Patronizing various overpriced attractions not to mention the truly ridiculous things like going into a cage with a tiger. Falling for scams that have been well publicized and written about for years such as renting Jet Skis and Gems.Purchasing homes, land and gold for ugly Isaarn slappers with whom no Thai man would have for free. Paying Sinsot for women with little to bring to a marriage but bastard brats, bad habits, questionable judgement, and bellies hanging down. Sorry this time I am just going to have to blame the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunyod Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Obviously a few baht is neither here nor there. Perhaps the annoyance at dual pricing is because after long term residence it would simply be nice not to be discriminated against......to feel at home. I guess that is amplified when one pays income tax without some important benefits that that tax contributes to, meaning one is essentially contributing more. I'd say there's a genetic aversion to unfairness, certainly to others and this may be an example of an aversion against unfairness to oneself. it's 1 GBP and not worth inconveniencing the queue of cars behind you. we know they are xenophobic so here's a book recommendation for you. have a nice day Ah yes, Richard Carlson, PhD. He got that degree from a 7th day adventist La Sierra University that teaches creationism, and whose highest degree awarded is an EdD. Similar to John Grey PhD the "Men are from Mars" guy, whose PhD is actually a correspondence course, non-accredited. Popular books, basically pablum, ok if one is a bit obsessed. Obituary: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/richard-carlson-430230.html his point is valid and it sold millions and spent an eternity on the New York Times Bestseller list but perhaps you have done the same? my point IS 1 pound is not worth holding up a queue of people who want to have a nice day out - back on topic please Ah yes, back on topic, and what topic is that? Treating this as a "little thing" that should be ignored, and validating this by a popular writer. Well, indeed, popular writer but popularity is no guarantee of actual insight beyond the trite and simplistic. There are a host of examples, beyond the one you recommend, and the other I mention, for example that great bestseller Kahlil Gibran: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v20/n17/robert-irwin/i-am-a-false-alarm No, indeed, the point is that racist/nationalist/xenophobic pricing is indeed wrongheaded and there is a definite need to have those in charge of pricing come to the same conclusion and refrain from it. If ability to pay is what is being targeted, there are many well-to-do Thai people who benefit based on their nationality. It really is only an excuse. Other countries with such dual pricing practices also discuss this issue, for example in India: http://www.thehindu.com/thread/arts-culture-society/article7783596.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Via the backside you can enter for free, just go to the top of Suthep mountain and down on the other side, you end up right at the lake it's a wonderful trip did it many times. Had to smile at the first line of you post, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousehound Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ah. The perennial two price whinge! I am back in OZ and I can tell you that we have a many tiered price structure for all amenities. It is called taxation. The better off pay more to keep the infrastructure going. If you pay Thai taxes then you should pay Thai prices - if not then it is not unreasonable for you to pay a little extra. At the weekend I took a couple of visitors to see our local (and pathetic) little Bell Tower. For a fifteen minute visit it cost 1300BHT . HTT is better value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) my point IS 1 pound is not worth holding up a queue of people who want to have a nice day out - back on topic please And my point is, Who gives a flying $£"k about people in the queue behind? If they don't like waiting, they can pay the extra 20bht for me. Me, happy to block the road and argue for an hour! (works at police road blocks too) Edited January 13, 2016 by MaeJoMTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 my point IS 1 pound is not worth holding up a queue of people who want to have a nice day out - back on topic please And my point is, Who gives a flying $£"k about people in the queue behind? If they don't like waiting, they can pay the extra 20bht for me. Me, happy to block the road and argue for an hour! (works at police road blocks too) yup that says a lot about you unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ah yes, back on topic, and what topic is that? Treating this as a "little thing" that should be ignored, and validating this by a popular writer. Well, indeed, popular writer but popularity is no guarantee of actual insight beyond the trite and simplistic. There are a host of examples, beyond the one you recommend, and the other I mention, for example that great bestseller Kahlil Gibran: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v20/n17/robert-irwin/i-am-a-false-alarm No, indeed, the point is that racist/nationalist/xenophobic pricing is indeed wrongheaded and there is a definite need to have those in charge of pricing come to the same conclusion and refrain from it. If ability to pay is what is being targeted, there are many well-to-do Thai people who benefit based on their nationality. It really is only an excuse. Other countries with such dual pricing practices also discuss this issue, for example in India: http://www.thehindu.com/thread/arts-culture-society/article7783596.ece it certainly is a VERY little thing that you can discuss, bitch and moan at but you won't change and if you really cannot afford 1 GBP don't go there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Why would anyone want to go there it is a dump, with packs of dogs. So they can post on Thai Visa how they saved 20 baht. If they worried about a few THB they are better off to go back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ah yes, back on topic, and what topic is that? Treating this as a "little thing" that should be ignored, and validating this by a popular writer. Well, indeed, popular writer but popularity is no guarantee of actual insight beyond the trite and simplistic. There are a host of examples, beyond the one you recommend, and the other I mention, for example that great bestseller Kahlil Gibran: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v20/n17/robert-irwin/i-am-a-false-alarm No, indeed, the point is that racist/nationalist/xenophobic pricing is indeed wrongheaded and there is a definite need to have those in charge of pricing come to the same conclusion and refrain from it. If ability to pay is what is being targeted, there are many well-to-do Thai people who benefit based on their nationality. It really is only an excuse. Other countries with such dual pricing practices also discuss this issue, for example in India: http://www.thehindu.com/thread/arts-culture-society/article7783596.ece it certainly is a VERY little thing that you can discuss, bitch and moan at but you won't change and if you really cannot afford 1 GBP don't go there It's not about "not being able to afford". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Ah yes, back on topic, and what topic is that? Treating this as a "little thing" that should be ignored, and validating this by a popular writer. Well, indeed, popular writer but popularity is no guarantee of actual insight beyond the trite and simplistic. There are a host of examples, beyond the one you recommend, and the other I mention, for example that great bestseller Kahlil Gibran: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v20/n17/robert-irwin/i-am-a-false-alarm No, indeed, the point is that racist/nationalist/xenophobic pricing is indeed wrongheaded and there is a definite need to have those in charge of pricing come to the same conclusion and refrain from it. If ability to pay is what is being targeted, there are many well-to-do Thai people who benefit based on their nationality. It really is only an excuse. Other countries with such dual pricing practices also discuss this issue, for example in India: http://www.thehindu.com/thread/arts-culture-society/article7783596.ece it certainly is a VERY little thing that you can discuss, bitch and moan at but you won't change and if you really cannot afford 1 GBP don't go there It's not about "not being able to afford". have i said, anywhere, that I agree with dual pricing? because I don't. I am saying it's not worth the hassle for 20 baht Edited January 13, 2016 by LannaGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Smarter farangs get there before 7am.....drive right in (on the right side). Never saw anyone man the booth before 7am. Gate is open for campers to come and go. We used to get there before sunrise and leave by 7am (bikes or walking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Ah yes, back on topic, and what topic is that? Treating this as a "little thing" that should be ignored, and validating this by a popular writer. Well, indeed, popular writer but popularity is no guarantee of actual insight beyond the trite and simplistic. There are a host of examples, beyond the one you recommend, and the other I mention, for example that great bestseller Kahlil Gibran: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v20/n17/robert-irwin/i-am-a-false-alarm No, indeed, the point is that racist/nationalist/xenophobic pricing is indeed wrongheaded and there is a definite need to have those in charge of pricing come to the same conclusion and refrain from it. If ability to pay is what is being targeted, there are many well-to-do Thai people who benefit based on their nationality. It really is only an excuse. Other countries with such dual pricing practices also discuss this issue, for example in India: http://www.thehindu.com/thread/arts-culture-society/article7783596.ece it certainly is a VERY little thing that you can discuss, bitch and moan at but you won't change and if you really cannot afford 1 GBP don't go there It's not about "not being able to afford". have i said, anywhere, that I agree with dual pricing? because I don't. I am saying it's not worth the hassle for 20 baht Tis You gotta fight for your right to party @20 baht.... Edited January 13, 2016 by MESmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydee Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ah yes, back on topic, and what topic is that? Treating this as a "little thing" that should be ignored, and validating this by a popular writer. Well, indeed, popular writer but popularity is no guarantee of actual insight beyond the trite and simplistic. There are a host of examples, beyond the one you recommend, and the other I mention, for example that great bestseller Kahlil Gibran: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v20/n17/robert-irwin/i-am-a-false-alarm No, indeed, the point is that racist/nationalist/xenophobic pricing is indeed wrongheaded and there is a definite need to have those in charge of pricing come to the same conclusion and refrain from it. If ability to pay is what is being targeted, there are many well-to-do Thai people who benefit based on their nationality. It really is only an excuse. Other countries with such dual pricing practices also discuss this issue, for example in India: http://www.thehindu.com/thread/arts-culture-society/article7783596.ece it certainly is a VERY little thing that you can discuss, bitch and moan at but you won't change and if you really cannot afford 1 GBP don't go there It's not about "not being able to afford". Aux armes, citoyens, , Formez vos bataillons, , Marchons, marchons ! ! Qu'un sang impur Abreuve nos sillons ! Such is the stuff of revolutions - get some perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ah yes, back on topic, and what topic is that? Treating this as a "little thing" that should be ignored, and validating this by a popular writer. Well, indeed, popular writer but popularity is no guarantee of actual insight beyond the trite and simplistic. There are a host of examples, beyond the one you recommend, and the other I mention, for example that great bestseller Kahlil Gibran: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v20/n17/robert-irwin/i-am-a-false-alarm No, indeed, the point is that racist/nationalist/xenophobic pricing is indeed wrongheaded and there is a definite need to have those in charge of pricing come to the same conclusion and refrain from it. If ability to pay is what is being targeted, there are many well-to-do Thai people who benefit based on their nationality. It really is only an excuse. Other countries with such dual pricing practices also discuss this issue, for example in India: http://www.thehindu.com/thread/arts-culture-society/article7783596.ece it certainly is a VERY little thing that you can discuss, bitch and moan at but you won't change and if you really cannot afford 1 GBP don't go there It's not about "not being able to afford". Aux armes, citoyens, , Formez vos bataillons, , Marchons, marchons ! ! Qu'un sang impur Abreuve nos sillons !Such is the stuff of revolutions - get some perspective Fools & their money are easily parted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza40 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ok the average thai probably makes 12000 baht A month.i was making 200000 baht A month til I retired.Now I still have A 50000 Baht A month income.So for that I don't have any problem paying more.And when I go to A restaurant or taxi etc I give 15-20% Tip.The average Thai don't make big money.I'm in their country I don't mind helping out. I'm so happy for you. Obviously you don't mind bignoting yourself on TV either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza40 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Having been to HTT a couple of times, it doesn't matter to me whether it's 50 baht or nothing. Overrated as an attraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza40 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 my point IS 1 pound is not worth holding up a queue of people who want to have a nice day out - back on topic please And my point is, Who gives a flying $£"k about people in the queue behind? If they don't like waiting, they can pay the extra 20bht for me. Me, happy to block the road and argue for an hour! (works at police road blocks too) I think you've mentioned previously your favoured mode of transport is a bicycle. Blocking the road? For an hour? Over 20 baht? Good luck with that. There's a psychiatric hospital on Chiang Saen Road, would you like a reservation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I think you've mentioned previously your favoured mode of transport is a bicycle. Blocking the road? For an hour? Over 20 baht? Good luck with that. There's a psychiatric hospital on Chiang Saen Road, would you like a reservation? I have a bicycle, Actually I have 4 bicycles, 1 pickup, 3 motorcycles. Not everyone posting on these forums is a dirt poor school teacher with only 1 mode of transport. Sometimes, I even drive the pickup around with the bicycles in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza40 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I think you've mentioned previously your favoured mode of transport is a bicycle. Blocking the road? For an hour? Over 20 baht? Good luck with that. There's a psychiatric hospital on Chiang Saen Road, would you like a reservation? I have a bicycle, Actually I have 4 bicycles, 1 pickup, 3 motorcycles. Not everyone posting on these forums is a dirt poor school teacher with only 1 mode of transport. Sometimes, I even drive the pickup around with the bicycles in the back. I can see why you would need so many vehicles with a multiple personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I think you've mentioned previously your favoured mode of transport is a bicycle. Blocking the road? For an hour? Over 20 baht? Good luck with that. There's a psychiatric hospital on Chiang Saen Road, would you like a reservation? I have a bicycle, Actually I have 4 bicycles, 1 pickup, 3 motorcycles. Not everyone posting on these forums is a dirt poor school teacher with only 1 mode of transport. Sometimes, I even drive the pickup around with the bicycles in the back. I can see why you would need so many vehicles with a multiple personality. Your return of service hit the net - match point to MJMTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza40 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I think you've mentioned previously your favoured mode of transport is a bicycle. Blocking the road? For an hour? Over 20 baht? Good luck with that. There's a psychiatric hospital on Chiang Saen Road, would you like a reservation? I have a bicycle, Actually I have 4 bicycles, 1 pickup, 3 motorcycles. Not everyone posting on these forums is a dirt poor school teacher with only 1 mode of transport. Sometimes, I even drive the pickup around with the bicycles in the back. I can see why you would need so many vehicles with a multiple personality. Your return of service hit the net - match point to MJMTB I'm a golfer - he has a six foot downhill putt with 3 inches of break for a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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