ikebukuro5 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Is it ok to sit in a coffee shop or bar with a laptop? Can the army or police suddenly seize your laptop or do a search of your hard disk without a warrant? I'm asking because I have a friend that is overly paranoid, he sells stuff on ecommerce sites from West to West, nothing to do about Thailand. He also has a business in the USA that he controls from over here, again, nothing to do with Thailand. Some bar owners claim that they are in danger and don't want him to bring the laptop.... Is he over reacting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Not visa related so moving to the general forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 yes ,unless he is involved in things that may not be legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Maybe they are afraid he is not drinking fast enough with all that Internet stuff going on ? I never heard of that...and how would that be different than the people who stare into their phones 24 x 7 in every hole in the wall around ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigt3116 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 "I'm asking because I have a friend that is overly paranoid, he sells stuff on ecommerce sites from West to West, nothing to do about Thailand. He also has a business in the USA that he controls from over here, again, nothing to do with Thailand." Actually, it has everything to do with Thailand, because that is where your "friend" is when he works. So, as he is, (according to the letter of the law), working illegally, I would think that the RTP do have the powers to seize his laptop and any other evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 if you are up to no good you probably feel paranoid. Bar owner also thinks you are up to no good. i would guess if the authorities are tracking you they will seize you anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Maybe as said sat on lap top using free WiFi (which is not secure so if and that's a big if, he is looking after his businesses back in West! !!! And USA he won't have them long when hackers get him!!which bar????) Not drinking like any owner of coffe/bar he is not a worthwhile customer so feed him the story described and hey presto vacant seat. I suppose technically he is working illegally which will bring out the throw him out of Thailand brigade on here. Edited January 17, 2016 by Sutty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never me Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The Army can do anything. Thailand is under Military rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikebukuro5 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 I hear a lot of incredulous comments doubting the truth about his work not being related to Thailand, but I assure you , it is NOT related to Thailand. I can't give any details because he wants to remain anonymous. But let's say it would be analogous to running a contruction business in North America, delegating tasks to staff, doing business paper work, taxes, renting equipment, calling customers and vendors ect... NOTHING to do with Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Tell your friend to buy more lady drinks, every thing will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stander Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Starbucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) He also has a business in the USA that he controls from over here, again, nothing to do with Thailand." ------------------------ This subject has been discussed many times on the appropriate Thai visa forum topic. In fact, as he is performing the action in Thailand ,he IS working in Thailand if he is really controlling his business from Thailand. And to do that he technically is doing something illegal unless he has a work permit. Which h almost certainly doesn't. unless he works for Thai employer,, or has his own legally registered Thai company However, t is very unlikely he will get in trouble for it, as the Thais don't seem to enforce the rules about working on the internet. What he is doing is technically illegal however. Edited January 17, 2016 by metisdead 2. Please do not modify someone else's post in your quoted reply, either with font or color changes or wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I hear a lot of incredulous comments doubting the truth about his work not being related to Thailand, but I assure you , it is NOT related to Thailand. I can't give any details because he wants to remain anonymous. But let's say it would be analogous to running a contruction business in North America, delegating tasks to staff, doing business paper work, taxes, renting equipment, calling customers and vendors ect... NOTHING to do with Thailand. Then your friend is silly all wifi bar conceptions are open to easy hacking I could be into his personal stuff tax returns banking ect in minutes and I'm no hacker think what a serious hacker could do to his businesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billphillips Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Tell your friend to buy more lady drinks, every thing will be fine.I think you are about right with that. Someone tapping away on a notepad is not exactly the image that a bar needs. Customers that join conversations and basically spend some money are. Sitting and sipping a soda water while using the wifi isn't going to pay the billsI find the whole idea of working here without an Internet connection in your home quite ridiculous. Or perhaps the guy does have Internet but doesn't want to be traced to his home. Either way I'm with the bar owner, notepads are not welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youaredoomed Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 What he is doing is technically illegal however. Poppycock and nonsense..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Tell your friend to buy more lady drinks, every thing will be fine.I think you are about right with that. Someone tapping away on a notepad is not exactly the image that a bar needs. Customers that join conversations and basically spend some money are. Sitting and sipping a soda water while using the wifi isn't going to pay the billsI find the whole idea of working here without an Internet connection in your home quite ridiculous. Or perhaps the guy does have Internet but doesn't want to be traced to his home. Either way I'm with the bar owner, notepads are not welcome. Yeah all that and the girls aren't making any money and are probably complaining to the owner about the kinnneow farang who comes in everyday. Pretty stupid anyways to conduct your biz on an open connection everyday in the same place, just setting himself up for hacking or spying, he ought to at least move arouund to different locarions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I hear a lot of incredulous comments doubting the truth about his work not being related to Thailand, but I assure you , it is NOT related to Thailand. I can't give any details because he wants to remain anonymous. But let's say it would be analogous to running a contruction business in North America, delegating tasks to staff, doing business paper work, taxes, renting equipment, calling customers and vendors ect... NOTHING to do with Thailand. Why would your friend be running a business from a coffee shop or a bar? I don't understand anything logical about connecting to a semi-open (communial password protected) network to conduct business.Even if he doesn't have wi-fi available at his place of residence, 3G or 4G mobile networks are available almost everywhere. If he can't afford to get an internet connection IMO it doesn't say much for his business model. As for the warnings he is being given from owners, they either don't trust him or he is taking up space which could be used by a paying customer/customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) The friend is probably from Nigeria, a prince or somebody with a large inheritance somewhere and needs help transferring the funds. Edited January 17, 2016 by Rob13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youaredoomed Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yesterday, I watched and regularly watch the cricket over a few pints at my local here with no hassle at all....... Sounds to me like some 'Digital Nomad' who, despite their claims to be 'living the dream' isn't maybe doing as well as the 'bloggers' think they do...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeke Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 That is absolutley ridiculous! You must not live here. You are more apt to see people use their smart phones nowadays than laptops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yesterday, I watched and regularly watch the cricket over a few pints at my local here with no hassle at all....... Sounds to me like some 'Digital Nomad' who, despite their claims to be 'living the dream' isn't maybe doing as well as the 'bloggers' think they do...... LOL so watching someone trying to hit a little red ball whilst living in Thailand is living the dream then 5555555555. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youaredoomed Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yesterday, I watched and regularly watch the cricket over a few pints at my local here with no hassle at all....... Sounds to me like some 'Digital Nomad' who, despite their claims to be 'living the dream' isn't maybe doing as well as the 'bloggers' think they do...... LOL so watching someone trying to hit a little red ball whilst living in Thailand is living the dream then 5555555555. It was yestreen my friend, seeing them saffers trying to get hold of Stuart Broad while my quarterly bonus burned a hole in my arse pocket...... I hope you get a few clicks on your site and make enough to keep you in Mama Nooden tomorrow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonytune Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 fly into cambodia and get a business visa for 35 dollars on arrival. spend your money there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yesterday, I watched and regularly watch the cricket over a few pints at my local here with no hassle at all....... Sounds to me like some 'Digital Nomad' who, despite their claims to be 'living the dream' isn't maybe doing as well as the 'bloggers' think they do...... LOL so watching someone trying to hit a little red ball whilst living in Thailand is living the dream then 5555555555. It was yestreen my friend, seeing them saffers trying to get hold of Stuart Broad while my quarterly bonus burned a hole in my arse pocket...... I hope you get a few clicks on your site and make enough to keep you in Mama Nooden tomorrow..... It's ok don't worry about me I pay your little bonus my friend oh and I own Mama Noodle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Maybe he sits there and tells everyone how much money he is making and the bar owner is sick to death about hearing it everyday......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Some nonsense posts have been removed. A post in which the quoted content had been altered has been removed as well as the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The bar-manager/coffeeshop-people just are very bored with the people who sip on a beverage for hours, using the house wifi. Regarding the coffee-shop, especially the chain who's logo is similar to "Tom Tom Coffee"; this specific shop is more and more an attraction instead of a place where coffee can be enjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgjackson69 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) There is a fairly common notion that bars and restaurants "need" free WiFi to draw customers. At first glance, this seems reasonable. On further thought, it would not be a good business decision. Consider the stories about McDonalds being clogged with students who come in, order a drink, and sit for hours using the WiFi. If I am a restaurant owner, I want the people to sit, order, eat, and vacate the table...unless they want to sit a while and have some after-dinner drinks. If my place is a bar, I want those plonkers in the seats paying attention to my waitstaff and building up a bar bill, not staring at the their screen whilst nursing a draft beer or glass of water. Other than putting a few butts in the seats to make the place look busier during slow traffic times, there is no upside to having free WiFi in a bar/restaurant. All that said, I highly doubt that bar owners are getting in trouble for someone sitting in their place with a laptop open. That is the likely story they can tell the laptop user, to pass the "blame" to some (faceless and non-present) other entity. Edited January 17, 2016 by mgjackson69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Anumber of off topic/derailing posts have been removed. This is not about hacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aachen Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 NOTHING to do with Thailand. WRONG! He is in Thailand and needs a workpermit. Otherwise he is allowd to go to the beach and feel fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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