Is it too late to stop the Donald Trump machine?

[keemapoot]

Barry Goldwater 1964 redux.

The right winger Goldwater won six states, 52 Electoral College votes, 38.1% of the popular vote (270 EC votes needed to win).

Sen. Goldwater of Arizona ran very poorly in historically traditional Republican areas throughout the country. (Not in every Republican area, just almost all of 'em. More than enough Republicans nationwide rejected Goldwater to run Goldwater out of the general election in that November.)

Hello Donald Trump:

Poll: Utah would vote for a Democrat for president over TrumpBy Lisa Riley Roche, Deseret News

SALT LAKE CITY — If Donald Trump becomes the Republican Party's nominee, Utahns would vote for a Democrat for president in November for the first time in more than 50 years, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll.

"I believe Donald Trump could lose Utah. If you lose Utah as a Republican, there is no hope," said former Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt, a top campaign adviser to the GOP's 2012 nominee, Mitt Romney.

The poll found that may well be true. Utah voters said they would reject Trump, the GOP frontrunner, whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is the Democratic candidate on the general election ballot.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865650513/Poll-Utah-would-vote-for-a-Democrat-for-president-over-Trump.html?pg=all

The extremist Goldwater was going to lose in 1964. However, the following statement in his acceptance speech to the Republican National Convention put him away for good....

BTW, your source, The Deseret News, is famously as right wing and Mormon as you can get in Utah. Right wing in the old-fashioned way. Remember? Rational conservative. Love of God and country. Utah is the last bastion of real Republicans. Orrin Hatch country.

Trump is an abomination. A grotesque disfigurement of Republicanism. I'm simply shocked and appalled that so many Republicans and conservatives on this forum have been so easily lured by his cheap rhetoric and so easily defected to his "vision" for America. Tunnel Vision.

Edited March 21, 2016 by keemapoot

[Publicus]

Let's have another look at that one Pub, shall we?

What do they say? History repeats itself?

Truly remarkable.

And that nut was putting it mildly compared to the Bloviator's "standards".

At any rate, the Bloviator's days are numbered.

Take that to the bank.

Well taken iReason.

I've always observed the adage that while history is not a chorus that repeats itself it sure does rhyme a lot.

Agreed that Goldwater compared to Trump was milquetoast. For instance, when Goldwater talked about using nuclear weapons, he knew what the Strategic Nuclear Triad was/is, whereas Trump thinks triad is a bunch of gangster Chinese he has to 'negotiate' with to put up a building.

Goldwater's extremism was rhetorical and ideological. Trump's extremism is off the wall.

We have some significant wall along sections of the most violated border areas with Mexico. it's called public policy and border security. Trump's solid border wall and violent rhetoric is extreme, proposed by an extremist, Trump himself.

Goldwater had no violence nor any Goldwater thugs at his rallies, whereas there are violent Trump citizen-goons at Trump rallies almost every time, promoted openly by Trump himself. Trump needs violence at his campaign events.

All of these Trump for president rallies throughout the course of the campaign along with their violent commotion are the cumulative equivalent of Mussolini's March on Rome (1922).

Rhythms.

Convulsions.

I could write a long text about how leftist people are generally like a paedophile "prophet" from the 7th century desert but i wont. Why? Well, i don't want to sound like a <deleted> like leftist people.

Of the three major theistic religions of history, Islam in its extremist and reactionary theology had deservedly become the most objectionable.

My own experience however based on having lived in a 90% Muslim province in the deepest South of Thailand is that the concerns of the people there are the everyday practical concerns of all peoples of the world. Muslims there want to make a living for their family and they want to get ahead in socio-economic and personal terms.

Same as every mainstream person I know. They don't drivel theology or ideology.

Benito Trump is his own different beast with his own crude and cruel extremist agenda. When the ignoramus Trump arrives in hell he'll be shaking hands with vile ayatollahs from the timelessly miserable sands of the Middle East and of the latter day Xerses of Iran.

Doesn't matter who believes in a hell or does not. Certain people are going to end up in it regardless.

[Publicus]

Barry Goldwater 1964 redux.

The right winger Goldwater won six states, 52 Electoral College votes, 38.1% of the popular vote (270 EC votes needed to win).

Sen. Goldwater of Arizona ran very poorly in historically traditional Republican areas throughout the country. (Not in every Republican area, just almost all of 'em. More than enough Republicans nationwide rejected Goldwater to run Goldwater out of the general election in that November.)

Hello Donald Trump:

Poll: Utah would vote for a Democrat for president over TrumpBy Lisa Riley Roche, Deseret News

SALT LAKE CITY — If Donald Trump becomes the Republican Party's nominee, Utahns would vote for a Democrat for president in November for the first time in more than 50 years, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll.

"I believe Donald Trump could lose Utah. If you lose Utah as a Republican, there is no hope," said former Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt, a top campaign adviser to the GOP's 2012 nominee, Mitt Romney.

The poll found that may well be true. Utah voters said they would reject Trump, the GOP frontrunner, whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is the Democratic candidate on the general election ballot.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865650513/Poll-Utah-would-vote-for-a-Democrat-for-president-over-Trump.html?pg=all

The extremist Goldwater was going to lose in 1964. However, the following statement in his acceptance speech to the Republican National Convention put him away for good....

BTW, your source, The Deseret News, is famously as right wing and Mormon as you can get in Utah. Right wing in the old-fashioned way. Remember? Rational conservative. Love of God and country. Utah is the last bastion of real Republicans. Orrin Hatch country.

Trump is an abomination. A grotesque disfigurement of Republicanism. I'm simply shocked and appalled that so many Republicans and conservatives on this forum have been so easily lured by his cheap rhetoric and so easily defected to his "vision" for America. Tunnel Vision.

Points well recognised, taken, concurred.

Utah and also neighbor Idaho are the two most Republican voting states of the Union in elections of Potus. The R for Potus gets up to 67% of the popular vote in each state.

The always very conservative Deseret News survey found that Utah would vote D for Potus this year if Trump is the nominee of the Republican Party. The journal noted it would be the first time in "more than 50 years."

In fact, last time either Utah or Idaho voted Democratic Party for Potus was in 1964, when R Sen. Barry Goldwater was the Republican party nominee. The right wing extremist radical Barry Goldwater.

Texas Sen Ted Cruz is Utah and also Idaho conservative. Donald Trump is, among the vast majority of Republicans in those states a radical wildman.

Donald Trump kaput November 8th.

Poll: Cruz Has 42-Point Lead Over Trump in Utah

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/cruz-leads-trump-utah/2016/03/19/id/719944/

Cruz beats Trump in Idaho

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has won the Idaho Republican presidential primary, according to three television networks.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/cruz-beats-trump-in-idaho-220470#ixzz43a37NC70

[mopar71]

But these are all incidentals do the American people really want to have the whole world laughing at them.

That's an interesting point. You know how Thais don't care what Farang think about anything? Americans care even less what non Americans think about them. I know that is difficult to understand - it was for Piers Morgan. " British presenter admits Americans 'tired of hearing me CNN's audience tired of hearing a Brit debate American issues, he said - His ratings have plummeted from two million to around 270,000. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566348/CNN-axes-Piers-Morgan-Live-final-air-month.html

Today Raul Castro snubbed Obama at the airport. Trump said he would have turned the plane around and left. A two bit banana republic dictator snubbing the American President who is going to bring billions in new revenue into his country? Somebody got their priorities wrong.

Did Trump say that? If so, it's yet another proof why Trump would be awful at foreign relations. Of the few foreign leaders he's interacted with thus far, he's offended or turned off nearly all of them. Trump would be to foreign relations what a loud smelly fart would be to a first date.

So....

If Trump offending the leader of Cuba is rude and a sign that he is awful at foreign relations...what does it say about Castro that he offended the President of the United States, the very same man that for the first time in over 50 years moved the USA towards normalizing relations with his country and opening the flood gates for foreign investment? Normally it would make him the biggest dumba** on the planet, but he knows Obama wouldn't say anything.

btw - thawing relations with Cuba is one thing I applaud Obama for.

[Publicus]

But these are all incidentals do the American people really want to have the whole world laughing at them.

That's an interesting point. You know how Thais don't care what Farang think about anything? Americans care even less what non Americans think about them. I know that is difficult to understand - it was for Piers Morgan. " British presenter admits Americans 'tired of hearing me CNN's audience tired of hearing a Brit debate American issues, he said - His ratings have plummeted from two million to around 270,000. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566348/CNN-axes-Piers-Morgan-Live-final-air-month.html

Today Raul Castro snubbed Obama at the airport. Trump said he would have turned the plane around and left. A two bit banana republic dictator snubbing the American President who is going to bring billions in new revenue into his country? Somebody got their priorities wrong.

Did Trump say that? If so, it's yet another proof why Trump would be awful at foreign relations. Of the few foreign leaders he's interacted with thus far, he's offended or turned off nearly all of them. Trump would be to foreign relations what a loud smelly fart would be to a first date.

So....

If Trump offending the leader of Cuba is rude and a sign that he is awful at foreign relations...what does it say about Castro that he offended the President of the United States, the very same man that for the first time in over 50 years moved the USA towards normalizing relations with his country and opening the flood gates for foreign investment? Normally it would make him the biggest dumba** on the planet, but he knows Obama wouldn't say anything.

btw - thawing relations with Cuba is one thing I applaud Obama for.

.

what does it say about Castro that he offended the President of the United States,

Only people saying President Obama is offended or should be ticked off are the people who hate his guts. White House and just about everybody else is laughing at the usual suspect whingers. It's another instance of when a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it it's Obama's fault.

btw - thawing relations with Cuba is one thing I applaud Obama for.

Hopefully with big hands.

Big Don might flame you otherwise. Send you to sit with Marco.

Edited March 22, 2016 by Publicus

[boomerangutang]

Cruz taking 2 western states over Trump is significant. Yet be careful what you wish for. It's like going to visit Santa. You ask for a train set. Your mama whispers in Santa's ear; "tell him he can have his older brother's underwear or the backyard air mattress that needs patching."

I'd rather have Trump than Cruz, like I'd rather have a split lip than an abcessed tooth.

[Publicus]

There's a certain ambiguity to it as either is going to lose, Trump in a Goldwater-like wipeout, Cruz worse than McCain got trounced in '08.

Cruz is the standard center-right Republican ideological and philosophical conservative, sometimes center-right-right. Cruz has this campaign drifted easily toward the extremist fringe Goldwater/Trump stuff as in the instance of sand glowing in the dark, mimicing Trump on the wall, banning Muslims etc.

It's also the case that Cruz, as with Goldwater in 1964 does not need violence at his rallies. So Cruz does not promote or instigate violence to his political rally followers. For Trump, however, political violence and social dissolution is a vital strategic need in his campaign's March on Rome Washington. (Cruz in fact deals effectively with the few protesters who might show up, as any standard candidate or public official always has done and does do routinely.)

Trump is a radical wildman who scares both US allies and enemies, not to mention the decisive number of American voters. Trump is naturally ugly and deliberately menacing so he singularly and unlike any of the candidates does a humongous harm to the United States domestically and internationally. So if Trump is the Republican Party nominee it's going to get even more horrendously beastly.

Still, Trump and everything he is and says getting electorally obliterated in this voting cycle demolishes the raging lunatic right. Once and for all they forever lose everything they are and that they 24/7 howl at the moon over. This is good. The crackpot fringe haters getting politically nuked finally and at long last throws 'em out of the picture once and for all.

It's just that Trump is so ghastly and beastly ugly the coming eight months until November will be hell for everyone, everywhere. Really grim. Yet it's the old cliche' that it's always darkest before the dawn.

[tropo]

I could write a long text about how leftist people are generally like a paedophile "prophet" from the 7th century desert but i wont. Why? Well, i don't want to sound like a <deleted> like leftist people.

Thank you!

[Scotwight]

It's just that Trump is so ghastly and beastly ugly the coming eight months until November will be hell for everyone, everywhere. Really grim. Yet it's the old cliche' that it's always darkest before the dawn.

I think pretty much everyone agrees Abraham Lincoln was the ugliest President of the USA. Do you think it effected his performance?

http://www.chicagonow.com/lists-that-actually-matter/2011/02/the-8-ugliest-u-s-presidents/#image/1

Edited March 22, 2016 by Scotwight

[iReason]

^^^

I would venture to say, what Publicus indicates, is that Trump is so ghastly and beastly ugly in his character.

And every fiber of his body. (My added observation)

[Asheron]

There's a certain ambiguity to it as either is going to lose, Trump in a Goldwater-like wipeout, Cruz worse than McCain got trounced in '08.

Cruz is the standard center-right Republican ideological and philosophical conservative, sometimes center-right-right. Cruz has this campaign drifted easily toward the extremist fringe Goldwater/Trump stuff as in the instance of sand glowing in the dark, mimicing Trump on the wall, banning Muslims etc.

It's also the case that Cruz, as with Goldwater in 1964 does not need violence at his rallies. So Cruz does not promote or instigate violence to his political rally followers. For Trump, however, political violence and social dissolution is a vital strategic need in his campaign's March on Rome Washington. (Cruz in fact deals effectively with the few protesters who might show up, as any standard candidate or public official always has done and does do routinely.)

Trump is a radical wildman who scares both US allies and enemies, not to mention the decisive number of American voters. Trump is naturally ugly and deliberately menacing so he singularly and unlike any of the candidates does a humongous harm to the United States domestically and internationally. So if Trump is the Republican Party nominee it's going to get even more horrendously beastly.

Still, Trump and everything he is and says getting electorally obliterated in this voting cycle demolishes the raging lunatic right. Once and for all they forever lose everything they are and that they 24/7 howl at the moon over. This is good. The crackpot fringe haters getting politically nuked finally and at long last throws 'em out of the picture once and for all.

It's just that Trump is so ghastly and beastly ugly the coming eight months until November will be hell for everyone, everywhere. Really grim. Yet it's the old cliche' that it's always darkest before the dawn.

You really are "something" aren't you? Your only arguments are arguments of feeling, maybe time to go back to kindergarden?

[lannarebirth]

There's a certain ambiguity to it as either is going to lose, Trump in a Goldwater-like wipeout, Cruz worse than McCain got trounced in '08.

Cruz is the standard center-right Republican ideological and philosophical conservative, sometimes center-right-right. Cruz has this campaign drifted easily toward the extremist fringe Goldwater/Trump stuff as in the instance of sand glowing in the dark, mimicing Trump on the wall, banning Muslims etc.

It's also the case that Cruz, as with Goldwater in 1964 does not need violence at his rallies. So Cruz does not promote or instigate violence to his political rally followers. For Trump, however, political violence and social dissolution is a vital strategic need in his campaign's March on Rome Washington. (Cruz in fact deals effectively with the few protesters who might show up, as any standard candidate or public official always has done and does do routinely.)

Trump is a radical wildman who scares both US allies and enemies, not to mention the decisive number of American voters. Trump is naturally ugly and deliberately menacing so he singularly and unlike any of the candidates does a humongous harm to the United States domestically and internationally. So if Trump is the Republican Party nominee it's going to get even more horrendously beastly.

Still, Trump and everything he is and says getting electorally obliterated in this voting cycle demolishes the raging lunatic right. Once and for all they forever lose everything they are and that they 24/7 howl at the moon over. This is good. The crackpot fringe haters getting politically nuked finally and at long last throws 'em out of the picture once and for all.

It's just that Trump is so ghastly and beastly ugly the coming eight months until November will be hell for everyone, everywhere. Really grim. Yet it's the old cliche' that it's always darkest before the dawn.

You really are "something" aren't you? Your only arguments are arguments of feeling, maybe time to go back to kindergarden?

He doesn't really have arguments exactly. The weapon he wields is ridicule. The only known way to silence him is to ask him to write a defense of the career of the candidate he supports.

[Publicus]

Thank you to the committed right for pointing themselves out in their own terms.

Again.

Trying unsuccessfully to define my posts in their own odd terms, such as the stew of absurd and futile attempts to shamelessly exploit Abraham Lincoln who was the most remote from my post as could be. The desperation of tossing in kindergarten, emotion (sans the fun of emoticons which are an optional standard function of the website).

No one on this side could do the expose' better.

Keep up the great work over and out there.

Meanwhile, on the issues, there is a straight line from Barry Goldwater in 1964 to Donald Trump in 2016 and the line goes through Ronald Reagan in between. The End.

[Asheron]

Thank you to the committed right for pointing themselves out in their own terms.

Again.

Trying unsuccessfully to define my posts in their own odd terms, such as the stew of absurd and futile attempts to shamelessly exploit Abraham Lincoln who was the most remote from my post as could be. The desperation of tossing in kindergarten, emotion (sans the fun of emoticons which are an optional standard function of the website).

No one on this side could do the expose' better.

Keep up the great work over and out there.

Meanwhile, on the issues, there is a straight line from Barry Goldwater in 1964 to Donald Trump in 2016 and the line goes through Ronald Reagan in between. The End.

With your "logic" you are to be blamed for the line between Marx and Obama. Because hey... let's get really imaginate while we are at it.

[Publicus]

Thank you to the committed right for pointing themselves out in their own terms.

Again.

Trying unsuccessfully to define my posts in their own odd terms, such as the stew of absurd and futile attempts to shamelessly exploit Abraham Lincoln who was the most remote from my post as could be. The desperation of tossing in kindergarten, emotion (sans the fun of emoticons which are an optional standard function of the website).

No one on this side could do the expose' better.

Keep up the great work over and out there.

Meanwhile, on the issues, there is a straight line from Barry Goldwater in 1964 to Donald Trump in 2016 and the line goes through Ronald Reagan in between. The End.

With your "logic" you are to be blamed for the line between Marx and Obama. Because hey... let's get really imaginate while we are at it.

Socialism is government ownership to include operation of the means of transportation, communication, production.

The United States does not have it, hasn't had it, won't ever have it.

To claim otherwise is vacuous, overheated, extreme -- wrong. In short, it is political rightwhingenut tripe.

Donald Gump Trump the Original Birther is about to lead the Republican party in to the general election in November, i.e. oblivion.

The End.

Edited March 22, 2016 by Publicus

[Asheron]

Thank you to the committed right for pointing themselves out in their own terms.

Again.

Trying unsuccessfully to define my posts in their own odd terms, such as the stew of absurd and futile attempts to shamelessly exploit Abraham Lincoln who was the most remote from my post as could be. The desperation of tossing in kindergarten, emotion (sans the fun of emoticons which are an optional standard function of the website).

No one on this side could do the expose' better.

Keep up the great work over and out there.

Meanwhile, on the issues, there is a straight line from Barry Goldwater in 1964 to Donald Trump in 2016 and the line goes through Ronald Reagan in between. The End.

With your "logic" you are to be blamed for the line between Marx and Obama. Because hey... let's get really imaginate while we are at it.

Socialism is government ownership to include operation of the means of transportation, communication, production.

The United States does not have it, hasn't had it, won't ever have it.

To claim otherwise is vacuous, overheated, extreme -- wrong. In short, it is political rightwhingenut tripe.

Donald Gump Trump the Original Birther is about to lead the Republican party in to the general election in November, i.e. oblivion.

The End.

You can "the end" and try to sound smart by using "fancy" words but the fact still stands: you are a communist who idolize Lenin and Stalin. In other words, fanboy of massmurder.

[mcfish]

Trumps screening of Muslims seems logical after yesterday's event's

[Publicus]

Meanwhile, on the issues, there is a straight line from Barry Goldwater in 1964 to Donald Trump in 2016 and the line goes through Ronald Reagan in between. The End.

With your "logic" you are to be blamed for the line between Marx and Obama. Because hey... let's get really imaginate while we are at it.

Socialism is government ownership to include operation of the means of transportation, communication, production.

The United States does not have it, hasn't had it, won't ever have it.

To claim otherwise is vacuous, overheated, extreme -- wrong. In short, it is political rightwhingenut tripe.

Donald Gump Trump the Original Birther is about to lead the Republican party in to the general election in November, i.e. oblivion.

The End.

You can "the end" and try to sound smart by using "fancy" words but the fact still stands: you are a communist who idolize Lenin and Stalin. In other words, fanboy of massmurder.

Don't stop now.

Kindly keep it going.

As the crackpot right compulsively must do anyway. Can't help themselves. The nutcase Original Birther Donald Trump doesn't even go down that road.

A recent review of Historian Richard Hofstadter's seminal work The Paranoid Style in American Politics.....

Hofstadter draws an interesting distinction here. The old paranoiacs feared that their country was about to be taken away from them by Masons, bankers or priests. Their modern descendants thought that it already had been taken away from them by assorted cosmopolitans, socialists, intellectuals and other traitors. Hofstadter observes that "the real mystery, for one who reads the primary works of paranoid scholarship, is not how the United States has been brought to its present dangerous position but how it has managed to survive at all".

http://mediotutissimus.blogspot.com/2011/10/paranoid-style-in-american-politics.html

(The banksters are back on their list, however, they're on just about everyone's list these dayze and duly so, so still no blanket difference concerning the right.)

As Prof Hofstadter himself wrote...

"The paranoid’s interpretation of history is distinctly personal: decisive events are not taken as part of the stream of history, but as the consequences of someone’s will."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/79524680/The-Paranoid-Style-in-American-Politics-Richard-Hofstadter#scribd

The triumph of the will.

[keemapoot]

Trumps screening of Muslims seems logical after yesterday's event's

Certainly some profiling of some type is necessary, if not popular, but like most of his other policies, Trump is just extremist in his pandering views to get votes, uninformed and uneducated on the complex issues, and shoots from the hip.

I absolutely expected Trump supporters, having seen the Belgium event, to simplistically use that one instance as validation of his position on Muslims, and wholesale accept all the other crap he spouts.

The problem with Trump's simplistic solutions is they appeal to a broad base of angry disenfranchised voters who are rightfully sickened by what the GOP has become, and to a lesser extent, what American politics has become. The general theme to Trump is build a wall, lock the gate, keep outsiders out, both in trade and immigration.

He is also able to convert many long-time Republicans (like on this forum), because of the long frustration of not having a Republican President, and their resignation that supporting Trump is better than any other alternative as at least it gets a Republican in the White House. So, these otherwise normal conservatives sigh and throw their support behind this charlatan, again a mistake.

Simplistic solutions for simple minds in the largest percentage; and weary resignation in the smaller percentage of thinking Republicans who support him to date. An even smaller percentage composed of opportunists and those looking to advance their careers can be seen from the few people "of substance" that have given their endorsement, who are largely 2nd and 3rd tier quality.

Edited March 22, 2016 by keemapoot

[Scott]

Some of the inflammatory, personal remarks have been noted. Such remarks are baiting and trolling and can and will result in warnings and suspensions if they continue.

You are welcome to express your opinion about the topic of the thread. Please keep your impression of other members off the forum.

[Berkshire]

Trump and Cruz are now going after each others wives. This should just get interesting....

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-melania-trump-twitter-donald-trump-heidi/index.html

[SgtRock]

In a new statement on the Brussels attacks, Republican hopeful Ted Cruz has called for a law enforcement focus on “Muslim neighborhoods”.

“We need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized, Cruz said in a statement posted to Facebook.

“We need to immediately halt the flow of refugees from countries with a significant al Qaida or ISIS presence,” Cruz said:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/mar/22/trump-cruz-arizona-utah-primaries-idaho-caucuses-live-us-election?page=with:block-56f17443e4b0ba593ff075b6#block-56f17443e4b0ba593ff075b6

Is Cruz now a rabid racist in the same vein as Trump ?

Or is this acceptable because, well, just because he is not Trump.

[iReason]

"Donald Trump gave what was billed as a major foreign policy address to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee."

"Scripted and read from a teleprompter."

"More revealing of Mr Trump's often conflicting, sometimes unorthodox and still somewhat inchoate worldview..."

"The men (and they're all men) who have Mr Trump's ear on foreign policy matters are a motley collection"

"According to Ben Chang, a National Security Council veteran of both the Bush and Obama administrations,

the list is too little, too late and amounts to nothing more than a confusing "hodgepodge".

"You can tell a person by the friends they keep, and you can tell a person's foreign policy by the advisers he or she gathers," Chang said.

"I'm not sure what to make of it. It doesn't seem to be comprehensive by geography or issue."

"What is lacking is some semblance of a comprehensive worldview."

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35867961

This keeps getting better and better. As the painful, slow motion of Trump going down in flames begins ...

[Jingthing]

Sure but Trump is much more about emotion than policy.

[slipperylobster]

Trump has it nailed...if Utah falls in place.

Lets talk about it tomorrow.

[slipperylobster]

It's just that Trump is so ghastly and beastly ugly the coming eight months until November will be hell for everyone, everywhere. Really grim. Yet it's the old cliche' that it's always darkest before the dawn.

I think pretty much everyone agrees Abraham Lincoln was the ugliest President of the USA. Do you think it effected his performance?

http://www.chicagonow.com/lists-that-actually-matter/2011/02/the-8-ugliest-u-s-presidents/#image/1

Not only ugly...but effeminate and had a high pitched, annoying voice (like hillary?)

but one of the best presidents.

Orange skin and street bravado behaviour are just small obstacles. Don't think Trump is dumb.....unless you, yourself have made it to the billionaire's club. Dummies don't get there.

Trump sounds like the average New Yorker street savvy guy........but he made it to the top of the Money Makers list. I can bet you there are no Billionaires on ThaiVisa.....so don't think you are smarter than Don.

Edited March 23, 2016 by slipperylobster

[thaibeachlovers]

Trump says all the things that the knuckle draggers love to hear, but he won't be able to deliver anything that he promises those suckers, and they won't realise it until he's closed the deal, like the dodgy real estate agent that he is.

Trump is a salesmen, but he'll never be a statesman, he may sell himself to the voters but he'll never be taken seriously on the world political stage!

You talk as though the other candidates are somehow better than he .

The present situation is a choice between bad, bad, bad and bad.

At least Trump will be entertaining, and the deity knows we all need some entertainment these days.

I saw how Kasich did in the latest contest- 10% or so. What a loser, but the GOP boyz want him to be "it".

[Chicog]

It's just that Trump is so ghastly and beastly ugly the coming eight months until November will be hell for everyone, everywhere. Really grim. Yet it's the old cliche' that it's always darkest before the dawn.

I think pretty much everyone agrees Abraham Lincoln was the ugliest President of the USA. Do you think it effected his performance?

http://www.chicagonow.com/lists-that-actually-matter/2011/02/the-8-ugliest-u-s-presidents/#image/1

Not only ugly...but effeminate and had a high pitched, annoying voice (like hillary?)

but one of the best presidents.

Orange skin and street bravado behaviour are just small obstacles. Don't think Trump is dumb.....unless you, yourself have made it to the billionaire's club. Dummies don't get there.

Trump sounds like the average New Yorker street savvy guy........but he made it to the top of the Money Makers list. I can bet you there are no Billionaires on ThaiVisa.....so don't think you are smarter than Don.

You do know that anyone could have out performed him by simply investing his inheritance in the stock market and leaving it there, right?

[thaihome]

Lesser of two evils deal with the choice being obvious.

Meet President Hillary Rodham Clinton, dudes.

What the slurping Trump fanboys can't seem to grasp is that this type of ad is going to turn off more than 50% of the electorate immediately.

Sure, it plays well with know-nothing wingnuts with "never forget Benghazi" tattoos, but how do you think moderate women will react? Here's a hint: it won't be positively.

The best part is to actually watch the whole clip and see that she was actually taking a very good shot at lying republicans.

TH

[slipperylobster]

It's just that Trump is so ghastly and beastly ugly the coming eight months until November will be hell for everyone, everywhere. Really grim. Yet it's the old cliche' that it's always darkest before the dawn.

I think pretty much everyone agrees Abraham Lincoln was the ugliest President of the USA. Do you think it effected his performance?

http://www.chicagonow.com/lists-that-actually-matter/2011/02/the-8-ugliest-u-s-presidents/#image/1

Not only ugly...but effeminate and had a high pitched, annoying voice (like hillary?)

but one of the best presidents.

Orange skin and street bravado behaviour are just small obstacles. Don't think Trump is dumb.....unless you, yourself have made it to the billionaire's club. Dummies don't get there.

Trump sounds like the average New Yorker street savvy guy........but he made it to the top of the Money Makers list. I can bet you there are no Billionaires on ThaiVisa.....so don't think you are smarter than Don.

You do know that anyone could have out performed him by simply investing his inheritance in the stock market and leaving it there, right?

All silliness aside...you do know that most people who have invested fortunes have also lost fortunes. A fool and his money are soon parted...but not Don. He did claim bankruptcy years ago...but he still wheels and deals.

Don Employs more people that you and your silliness could imagine. Politicians, for the most part (lets leave out Bush and several others....are not on the same level as Don.

Any connected and conniving (Tricky Dick) SOB could become president. Lets try a true Businessman....four years....not a lifetime. You cannot break what is already broken. Since nobody gives a darn, Obama twiddled his thumbs and invited disaster for eight long years.

Lets break the chain. Who knows? It might end up Aces with Trump.

Edited March 23, 2016 by slipperylobster