rooster59 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Super Poll shows people supporting 20 million baht fine for election fraud BANGKOK: The majority of people said they agreed with the idea of amending the Election Law that will impose a fine of up to 20 million baht for election fraud, and a 100,000 baht award for people giving information on election frauds. This was the result of the latest survey conducted by Dr Noppadol Kannika, chairman of the so-called Academic Research for Community Happiness, or known as Super Poll.Super Poll said it asked opinions from 6,157 eligible voters in 15 provinces during April 1-15 about their reactions over amendment of the election law.The result showed that 75.2% of them agreeing with the proposed imposition of 20 million baht for election fraud, while % 24.8 disagreeing.It said of those agreeing with the fine, 79.3% of them are supporters of the Government, and 31.9% are dissidents to government.Those silent force or 75.7% agreed with the fine and award, it added. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/159759 -- Thai PBS 2016-04-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 20,000,000 is a small amount of money, sure it sounds large enough to most Thais, pay off's and potential benefit's far exceed the 20m just ask khun Taksin, 20 years monkey house if they really want to get serious, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Yes good idea. We wouldn't want to have an undemocratic result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) "...100,000 baht award for people giving information on election frauds." Which can be used to pay off a defamation suit, since guilt plays no part in rendering a decision in such cases. That is, of course, if the person providing that information doesn't accidentally die in the first place. Edited April 16, 2016 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Does fraud cover 500 bht payments which seem to sway voters decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) I don't see any mention of possible jail time. For parties and some individuals a Bt 20 Million fine is a minor inconvenience if a fine, even the maximum, is actually ever imposed. Edited April 17, 2016 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 All these things are 'potentially' good ideas but are completely worthless until those agencies tasked with investigating and penalizing these issues have the trust of the public to carry out their jobs properly and without favour. Until then it just becomes another political tool to penalize opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 It said of those agreeing with the fine, 79.3% of them are supporters of the Government, and 31.9% are dissidents to government. A Super Poll indeed. 79.3 + 31.9 = 111.2% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups? How about a fine for the nutters that still believe PTP to be honest in government and the government never did wrong, and a fine for a PM every time they never turned up for meetings etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 What about some jail time instead! Oh, I forget, by the time the lite sentence is cut in half for confessing, good behavior, and a maybe some kind of pardon or further sentence reduction the person would be out within a few months. OK, stick with just a fine which will probably never be paid...be tied up/appealed in the courts until everyone forgot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups?How about a fine for the nutters that still believe PTP to be honest in government and the government never did wrong, and a fine for a PM every time they never turned up for meetings etc. Or a fine for nutters that feel the need to leap up and down and chant PTP or Thaksin inanely in every thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Offering a "reward" for reporters of election fraud could cause absolute chaos.....everyone would be reporting fraud for the reward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups?How about a fine for the nutters that still believe PTP to be honest in government and the government never did wrong, and a fine for a PM every time they never turned up for meetings etc. None of that is illegal, but coups are. Please tell me your grip on reality is such that you at least understand that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 It said of those agreeing with the fine, 79.3% of them are supporters of the Government, and 31.9% are dissidents to government. A Super Poll indeed. 79.3 + 31.9 = 111.2% So much better than farang polls, which only go up to 100. It's like the 11 on the amp in "This is Spinal Tap" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Fine for election fraud? How about a 500 billion baht fine for overthrow of an elected government for which there can be no amensty except by public referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Fines again? This is so lame. If they’re really serious, then the.... ultimate....sanction is called for. Block their Facebook access for life. Edited April 17, 2016 by Hayduke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Jaltsc.....Good one. That has made be lol for years just remembering it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Can the do the same for opinion poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilSA1 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups? Are there legal coups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 It's all a fuss over nothing, corruption in elections works like this, people get paid, then they vote for somebody else anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 "...100,000 baht award for people giving information on election frauds." Which can be used to pay off a defamation suit, since guilt plays no part in rendering a decision in such cases. That is, of course, if the person providing that information doesn't accidentally die in the first place. WOW with a fine like that and the added carrot of a reward to turn people in it sure looks like a set up to me. No person worth their political salt especially the average person will want to participate in the electoral process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups? Fine? No. How about a treason charge, followed by an execution for those who lead a coup (basic definition: all coups are illegal) Agree that jail time for those involved in election fraud is necessary, not just a fine. Edited April 17, 2016 by WhizBang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups? Are there legal coups? Name one that's been legal in Thailand, omitting the student revolution that over threw a Junta , a legal coup would be one that is sanctioned by the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups? Fine? No. How about a treason charge, followed by an execution for those who lead a coup (basic definition: all coups are illegal) Agree that jail time for those involved in election fraud is necessary, not just a fine. I would be fine with that...if there were treason charges for absent Pms that declared war on their own country. The black shirt militia providing "security" in Bangkok comes to mind. I can supply a video of the black shirts firing at regular soldiers if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 How about a fine for people involved in illegal coups? Fine? No. How about a treason charge, followed by an execution for those who lead a coup (basic definition: all coups are illegal) Agree that jail time for those involved in election fraud is necessary, not just a fine. I would be fine with that...if there were treason charges for absent Pms that declared war on their own country. The black shirt militia providing "security" in Bangkok comes to mind. I can supply a video of the black shirts firing at regular soldiers if you wish. Yes please, and also the evidence of who they were and also who organized them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 As requested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O7jN8kg4uk Pretty obvious which side they were on, and I can supply video of Thaksin calling the red shirts his brothers and sisters, telling them that he will personally lead them through the streets of Bangkok. That never happened of course, which makes him a liar as well as a traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) As requested Pretty obvious which side they were on, and I can supply video of Thaksin calling the red shirts his brothers and sisters, telling them that he will personally lead them through the streets of Bangkok. That never happened of course, which makes him a liar as well as a traitor.About time you got a grip on reality pal. No govt of the free world is going to return a fugitive to a junta controlled country. Also, he was democratically elected. Don't you think that taking over govt by force has to be the biggest election fraud imaginable? Edited April 17, 2016 by jesimps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 As requested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O7jN8kg4uk Pretty obvious which side they were on, and I can supply video of Thaksin calling the red shirts his brothers and sisters, telling them that he will personally lead them through the streets of Bangkok. That never happened of course, which makes him a liar as well as a traitor. Thaksin has not been here for NINE years yet still you obscenely OBSESS which makes you a retrospective obsessive and deluded obfuscator of truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Fines again? This is so lame. If they’re really serious, then the.... ultimate....sanction is called for. Block their Facebook access for life. And Line. Don't forget Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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