Angry protest outside Trump rally in California

[up2u2]

I

Sad to see America like this. Demonstrates how dangerous people like Trump are.

Now that's a good one up2u2. Clinton and Sanders supporters are rioting, turning over cars and beating up innocent Trump supporters to the point of hospitalizing them and you call Trump dangerous? I think that might be a little disingenuous.

Will Trump and his supporters play the 'poor me victim card'? Sure will.

Trump has made this a very dangerous time for America. I agree with JT and I hope we are both wrong and things calm down a little but I feel it is going to become more violent as Trump sets American against American in his attempt to take control of the White House.

The 'Victim Card' Nicely played.

Oh the 'free speech' angle again.

Trump is free to say whatever he likes. Where's the problem?

Trump is the guy who advocates violence, torturing people and targeting family members and killing them. Sorry you will have to go cry on someone else's shoulder Pimay1

Problem here is that tough talk is one thing.

Real actions..look at the street thugs jumping around on police vehicles like monkeys...is another.

This whole thing has turned. Trump is now on even ground with Hillary...and gaining.

watch and learn.

Nothing to worry about then. Trump will be the Republican candidate and be elected President and make America great again. Looking good so far.

[up2u2]

Actually, he advocates violence against terrorists, torturing terrorists and killing family members of terrorists - not just anybody.

Oh that's okay then. Just terrorists and family members. Sounds good. Even better when you put it in BIG print. Well done Ulysses G. I can see everyone getting on board with torture now you have clarified things. I am sure things will go smoothly and the Middle East situation will be solved quick smart.

Trump is being undervalued Trump Make the World Great Again. Wow he's the man that's for sure.

[Pimay1]

Now that's a good one up2u2. Clinton and Sanders supporters are rioting, turning over cars and beating up innocent Trump supporters to the point of hospitalizing them and you call Trump dangerous? I think that might be a little disingenuous.

Will Trump and his supporters play the 'poor me victim card'? Sure will.

Trump has made this a very dangerous time for America. I agree with JT and I hope we are both wrong and things calm down a little but I feel it is going to become more violent as Trump sets American against American in his attempt to take control of the White House.

I have to disagree with your logic. First of all in my opinion when an innocent person is attacked and beaten they are certainly a victim. Secondly if what you say is true then not just one sect of Americans would be turning on another sect as is happening now. It is only the intolerant left wingers that are rioting and causing destruction in the name of denying free speech.

The 'Victim Card' Nicely played.

Oh the 'free speech' angle again.

Trump is free to say whatever he likes. Where's the problem?

Trump is the guy who advocates violence, torturing people and targeting family members and killing them. Sorry you will have to go cry on someone else's shoulder Pimay1

The truth remains the truth no matter how much you deny it. Too many posts, removed one.

[JDGRUEN]

You missed the boat.

Obama is a small cog in the wheel.

The point is that the democrats are destroying america.

Obama is a democrat...so he is inside the circle...but he is just a symbol of what is wrong with America.

Perhaps it is too early in the morning for you, or you spilled some hot coffee on your lap and missed the main point.

Just to bring you up to specs.....Democrats need to go...their time is over. Too much of the same (Hillary and Trump)....time to upgrade.

Democrats are instigating and controlling the crowds on the streets.

No I think I got it.

It's all evil Obama and Democrats in a united conspiracy to destroy America and Trump is the one to make America great again. Hows that going? lol

I will tell you this...nothing is "going" yet...as the election is quite far off. How about now?

How has the past eight years been going for you? How has this all worked out for you?

You ready for four more..huh? good thinking.

I seriously don't know how democrats can deal with it....but you somehow do.

good gravy...man! somebody help the poor boy out.

The past 8 years under Obama. Unemployment down, government debt down, budget in surplus, affordable care act (and not one 'Death Panel' in sight), action on climate change, GDP up, military body bags down. It's been a disaster.

You long for the W days don't you. 9/11 failure, crippling national debt and unemployment, country in recession, financial sector collapse and public bailouts for Wall Street, Bin Laden on the loose. Ah the good ol W days.

Maybe Trump will make America great again like the good ol W Days.

You actually believe what you just posted -- amazing how propaganda captures the gullible

[borborygmus]

Actually, he advocates violence against terrorists, torturing terrorists and killing family members of terrorists - not just anybody.

Oh that's okay then. Just terrorists and family members. Sounds good. Even better when you put it in BIG print. Well done Ulysses G. I can see everyone getting on board with torture now you have clarified things. I am sure things will go smoothly and the Middle East situation will be solved quick smart.

Trump is being undervalued Trump Make the World Great Again. Wow he's the man that's for sure.

Make that the alleged terrorists and the families of alleged terrorists. Another case here of doublethink. The same conservatives who allege that you can count on government to get things wrong somehow fail to apply that standard when it comes to the government alleging who is and who isn't a terrorist.

Of course the notion that it's somehow ok to torture the families of terrorists show how low the right wing has generally sunk.

[Pimay1]

You missed the boat.

Obama is a small cog in the wheel.

The point is that the democrats are destroying america.

Obama is a democrat...so he is inside the circle...but he is just a symbol of what is wrong with America.

Perhaps it is too early in the morning for you, or you spilled some hot coffee on your lap and missed the main point.

Just to bring you up to specs.....Democrats need to go...their time is over. Too much of the same (Hillary and Trump)....time to upgrade.

Democrats are instigating and controlling the crowds on the streets.

No I think I got it.

It's all evil Obama and Democrats in a united conspiracy to destroy America and Trump is the one to make America great again. Hows that going? lol

I will tell you this...nothing is "going" yet...as the election is quite far off. How about now?

How has the past eight years been going for you? How has this all worked out for you?

You ready for four more..huh? good thinking.

I seriously don't know how democrats can deal with it....but you somehow do.

good gravy...man! somebody help the poor boy out.

The past 8 years under Obama. Unemployment down, government debt down, budget in surplus, affordable care act (and not one 'Death Panel' in sight), action on climate change, GDP up, military body bags down. It's been a disaster.

You long for the W days don't you. 9/11 failure, crippling national debt and unemployment, country in recession, financial sector collapse and public bailouts for Wall Street, Bin Laden on the loose. Ah the good ol W days.

Maybe Trump will make America great again like the good ol W Days.

My goodness, talk about misinformation. This is a troll post if ever I saw one.

[borborygmus]

I don't think you have a clue about the size and fervor of the Nationalist Uprising going on in America led by Trump - It is an Anti-Obama uprising and will be against the Democrat that stands to further his agenda... it will drown out the effect of even those Illegal Aliens that Gov. Brown just signed a law to allow them to vote.

No, California didn't give illegal aliens the right to vote. http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/

But what this and so many others of the untruths that the right wing subscribe to show how it is that Trump is on the verge of getting the nomination. Way back when, when most pundits and analysts, even the august Nate Silver were dismissing Trumps chances, one outlier was disagreeing: Paul Krugman. And the basis of his reasoning was this: Epistemic Closure. These people get all their information from right wing news sources. I used to cite fox news but now I'd say breitbart.com is more typical of their sources. And no matter how obviously improbable the claim is, they are unable to judge its truthfulness because their their sources of information are so tainted.

[Boon Mee]

Does this take the cake or what?

CNN Host Describes Anti-Trump Thugs Who Ravaged City Streets As “Dissatisfied Citizens”…

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/04/29/listen-to-unbelievable-way-cnn-host-describes-anti-trump-thugs-who-ravaged-city-streets-334779?utm_source=BizPac+Review+Email+Newsletter&utm_campaign=b4d5a6e2c1-News_from_BizPac_Review4_30_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fbf9323fb3-b4d5a6e2c1-31578305

And one wonders why folks don't trust the media, eh?

[borborygmus]

Their not protesters! Their paid Thugs by MoveOnOrg by the Socialist Democrats. .They get paid $12 p/hr and most don't understand why

they are there. It's good pocket money while their on Food Stamps!

Wow, those liberals are actually paying above the current minimum wage in California. At least you can't call them hypocrites when it comes to how they treat their employees.

I'm sure you can provide evidence to support this contention. You wouldn't make such a damning claim without it.

[Pinot]

Republicans are irrelevent in California. They did that to themselves. As California goes, so goes the nation.

This time next year, the Democrats will have the Presidency, the Congress and a progressive majority Supreme Court.

The Republican lemmings are all headed off the cliff with more calls to move further out into wingnuttia.

Bye bye

[borborygmus]

I will tell you this...nothing is "going" yet...as the election is quite far off. How about now?

How has the past eight years been going for you? How has this all worked out for you?

You ready for four more..huh? good thinking.

I seriously don't know how democrats can deal with it....but you somehow do.

good gravy...man! somebody help the poor boy out.

(sometimes I just wince at the insanity...and walk away) lol

You deserve what you got. deal with it.

Yes, and the man who promises to make it all better is going to accomplish this by making the rich and powerful even richer (thanks to yuuge tax cuts on them) which will make them even more powerful. And he hasn't forgotten the working people either. He's opposed to any increase in the minimum wage.

GO TRUMP!!!

[up2u2]

Actually, he advocates violence against terrorists, torturing terrorists and killing family members of terrorists - not just anybody.

Oh that's okay then. Just terrorists and family members. Sounds good. Even better when you put it in BIG print. Well done Ulysses G. I can see everyone getting on board with torture now you have clarified things. I am sure things will go smoothly and the Middle East situation will be solved quick smart.

Trump is being undervalued Trump Make the World Great Again. Wow he's the man that's for sure.

Make that the alleged terrorists and the families of alleged terrorists. Another case here of doublethink. The same conservatives who allege that you can count on government to get things wrong somehow fail to apply that standard when it comes to the government alleging who is and who isn't a terrorist.

Of course the notion that it's somehow ok to torture the families of terrorists show how low the right wing has generally sunk.

Don't get bogged down in minor detail borbory and please capitalise the word 'terrorists' that way they look more evil. lol

[borborygmus]

Republicans are irrelevent in California. They did that to themselves. As California goes, so goes the nation.

This time next year, the Democrats will have the Presidency, the Congress and a progressive majority Supreme Court.

The Republican lemmings are all headed off the cliff with more calls to move further out into wingnuttia.

Bye bye

This is what happened in California after a series of Propositions aimed at Latinos passed or were proposed.

"A record number of Latinos registered to vote and rushed to the polls. In a state where Ronald Reagan staked his claim as the godfather of the modern conservative movement, Democrats have swept every presidential and Senate race in the state since 1994." http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trumps-california-campaign-shows-how-he-could-doom-the-gop

Here's another source to look at. http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/2013/10/17/prop187effect/

I don't think pollsters are yet modeling for the huge increase in Latino voter registration that will surely follow Trump's nomination. And I'm sure that all the Trumpsters on this website don't even have a clue what's in the offing. In their mind. most of the latinos in the USA are illegal aliens, and, except of course, in California, won't be able to vote.

[jmd8800]

I don't think you have a clue about the size and fervor of the Nationalist Uprising going on in America led by Trump - It is an Anti-Obama uprising and will be against the Democrat that stands to further his agenda... it will drown out the effect of even those Illegal Aliens that Gov. Brown just signed a law to allow them to vote.

No, California didn't give illegal aliens the right to vote. http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/

But what this and so many others of the untruths that the right wing subscribe to show how it is that Trump is on the verge of getting the nomination. Way back when, when most pundits and analysts, even the august Nate Silver were dismissing Trumps chances, one outlier was disagreeing: Paul Krugman. And the basis of his reasoning was this: Epistemic Closure. These people get all their information from right wing news sources. I used to cite fox news but now I'd say breitbart.com is more typical of their sources. And no matter how obviously improbable the claim is, they are unable to judge its truthfulness because their their sources of information are so tainted.

I would take this a step farther and cite a well known right wing authoritarian personality (not right wing politics ..though they are similar) researcher:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/306542024/Donald-Trump-a-comment-by-Bob-Altemeyer

PS @JDGRUEN ..using the term 'Nationalist Uprising' doesn't do much for your cause. It has way too much of a neo-Nazi ring to it.

[grumpyoldman]

Now we see who the real red necks are. These tolerant, free speech loving liberals. They are too stupid to realize that by their actions they are simply building a bigger Trump voting base.

Why do the right-whingers think this is the case? Totally ludicrous.

Reality is that this Latino population is hugely angry with Trump and what he has said regarding them ("rapists, scum etc") and this will further fire up more Latinos across the nation over Trump's racism.

It's quite the opposite of this Rwinger hallucination, this will drive more minorities to the voting booth to vote against Trump.

[chuckd]

You missed the boat.

Obama is a small cog in the wheel.

The point is that the democrats are destroying america.

Obama is a democrat...so he is inside the circle...but he is just a symbol of what is wrong with America.

Perhaps it is too early in the morning for you, or you spilled some hot coffee on your lap and missed the main point.

Just to bring you up to specs.....Democrats need to go...their time is over. Too much of the same (Hillary and Trump)....time to upgrade.

Democrats are instigating and controlling the crowds on the streets.

No I think I got it.

It's all evil Obama and Democrats in a united conspiracy to destroy America and Trump is the one to make America great again. Hows that going? lol

I will tell you this...nothing is "going" yet...as the election is quite far off. How about now?

How has the past eight years been going for you? How has this all worked out for you?

You ready for four more..huh? good thinking.

I seriously don't know how democrats can deal with it....but you somehow do.

good gravy...man! somebody help the poor boy out.

(sometimes I just wince at the insanity...and walk away) lol

You deserve what you got. deal with it.

"How has the past eight years been going for you?"

It's likely been going ok for him. He is an Australian, not an American.

[peatmoss]

No I think I got it.

It's all evil Obama and Democrats in a united conspiracy to destroy America and Trump is the one to make America great again. Hows that going? lol

I will tell you this...nothing is "going" yet...as the election is quite far off. How about now?

How has the past eight years been going for you? How has this all worked out for you?

You ready for four more..huh? good thinking.

I seriously don't know how democrats can deal with it....but you somehow do.

good gravy...man! somebody help the poor boy out.

(sometimes I just wince at the insanity...and walk away) lol

You deserve what you got. deal with it.

"How has the past eight years been going for you?"

It's likely been going ok for him. He is an Australian, not an American.

Yet somehow you manage to criticize the politics and actions of other countries. Is this another instance of American exceptionalism? Are Americans more perspicacious and more more honest in their observations about foreign governments? Are American brains are somehow uniquely equipped to better understand the situation in American than any foreigner can ever hope to? Is there some secret code submerged in the news that only Americans can perceive? Or to put it another way. What the f*** does it matter where somebody comes from? What matters and all that matters is the content of what they say. Ad hominem attacks are just cheap shots and the last and futile recourse of the clueless.

Edited May 1, 2016 by peatmoss

[Berty100]

The protesters like that are helping Trump. Lets him play the victim, which is ridiculous.

Bring on the Trump nomination and then release the TON of dirt on him, 24/7, and he will destroy the republican party.

Hillary's "scandals" are baked in for many years.

With Trump's dirt, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Why don't you give us some example of that dirt we ain't seen nothing yet.

If you know it's there I assume you know of it and easily can point us to it.

[chuckd]

No I think I got it.

It's all evil Obama and Democrats in a united conspiracy to destroy America and Trump is the one to make America great again. Hows that going? lol

I will tell you this...nothing is "going" yet...as the election is quite far off. How about now?

How has the past eight years been going for you? How has this all worked out for you?

You ready for four more..huh? good thinking.

I seriously don't know how democrats can deal with it....but you somehow do.

good gravy...man! somebody help the poor boy out.

(sometimes I just wince at the insanity...and walk away) lol

You deserve what you got. deal with it.

"How has the past eight years been going for you?"

It's likely been going ok for him. He is an Australian, not an American.

Yet somehow you manage to criticize the politics and actions of other countries. Is this another instance of American exceptionalism? Are Americans more perspicacious and more more honest in their observations about foreign governments? Are American brains are somehow uniquely equipped to better understand the situation in American than any foreigner can ever hope to? Is there some secret code submerged in the news that only Americans can perceive? Or to put it another way. What the f*** does it matter where somebody comes from? What matters and all that matters is the content of what they say. Ad hominem attacks are just cheap shots and the last and futile recourse of the clueless.

"Yet somehow you manage to criticize the politics and actions of other countries."

Care to point out one for me? My post count is over 10,000 so let me know which one fits your criteria

I have tried very hard to avoid making posts on something I have little knowledge of or interest in. Something most Europeans and Aussies should consider.

Edit in: I just noticed you have honored me with your very first post. Let me welcome you as a really new member then congratulate you for knowing all about me on your first day of membership.

Let me suggest you familiarize yourself with forum rules and netiquette, particularly forum rule 24, which says...

24) Multiple accounts by the same person are not allowed. If you have access issues contact support at http://www.thaivisa.com/contact

Edited May 1, 2016 by chuckd

[Jingthing]

The protesters like that are helping Trump. Lets him play the victim, which is ridiculous.

Bring on the Trump nomination and then release the TON of dirt on him, 24/7, and he will destroy the republican party.

Hillary's "scandals" are baked in for many years.

With Trump's dirt, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Why don't you give us some example of that dirt we ain't seen nothing yet.

If you know it's there I assume you know of it and easily can point us to it.

You don't get it, do you?

From the democrats POV, there is no benefit in releasing ANYTHING until Trump is nominated and the general election is on.

The democrats WANT to run against Trump.

He's the best opportunity to totally crush the republican party.

So you'll have to wait some more time ... stay calm.

[Berty100]

The protesters like that are helping Trump. Lets him play the victim, which is ridiculous.

Bring on the Trump nomination and then release the TON of dirt on him, 24/7, and he will destroy the republican party.

Hillary's "scandals" are baked in for many years.

With Trump's dirt, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Why don't you give us some example of that dirt we ain't seen nothing yet.

If you know it's there I assume you know of it and easily can point us to it.

You don't get it, do you?

From the democrats POV, there is no benefit in releasing ANYTHING until Trump is nominated and the general election is on.

The democrats WANT to run against Trump.

He's the best opportunity to totally crush the republican party.

So you'll have to wait some more time ... stay calm.

I think you don't get it.

Your post gives the impression that there IS some dirt to be released, and that you are knowledgeable about it, so I only ask to gives us some foretaste of dirt that hasn't been released yet.

Or are you leading the Democrat party now and are you bound by their internal rules?

[Jingthing]

You still don't get it.

Clinton's flaws are BAKED in.

Trump's stuff will be fresh and if you don't think there is lots of stuff on Trump ... I've got a bridge to sell you.

[Boon Mee]

You still don't get it.

Clinton's flaws are BAKED in.

Trump's stuff will be fresh and if you don't think there is lots of stuff on Trump ... I've got a bridge to sell you.

Heh...if there were any juicy dirt on Trump we'd have heard it already.

Desperation time, Jingthing?

HILLARY FEWER VOTES THAN '08...

[Jingthing]

You still don't get it.

Clinton's flaws are BAKED in.

Trump's stuff will be fresh and if you don't think there is lots of stuff on Trump ... I've got a bridge to sell you.

Heh...if there were any juicy dirt on Trump we'd have heard it already.

Desperation time, Jingthing?

HILLARY FEWER VOTES THAN '08...

Democrats are very happy that republicans believe that.

Just wait. You'll see.

[peatmoss]

No I think I got it.

It's all evil Obama and Democrats in a united conspiracy to destroy America and Trump is the one to make America great again. Hows that going? lol

I will tell you this...nothing is "going" yet...as the election is quite far off. How about now?

How has the past eight years been going for you? How has this all worked out for you?

You ready for four more..huh? good thinking.

I seriously don't know how democrats can deal with it....but you somehow do.

good gravy...man! somebody help the poor boy out.

(sometimes I just wince at the insanity...and walk away) lol

You deserve what you got. deal with it.

"How has the past eight years been going for you?"

It's likely been going ok for him. He is an Australian, not an American.

Yet somehow you manage to criticize the politics and actions of other countries. Is this another instance of American exceptionalism? Are Americans more perspicacious and more more honest in their observations about foreign governments? Are American brains are somehow uniquely equipped to better understand the situation in American than any foreigner can ever hope to? Is there some secret code submerged in the news that only Americans can perceive? Or to put it another way. What the f*** does it matter where somebody comes from? What matters and all that matters is the content of what they say. Ad hominem attacks are just cheap shots and the last and futile recourse of the clueless.

"Yet somehow you manage to criticize the politics and actions of other countries."

Care to point out one for me? My post count is over 10,000 so let me know which one fits your criteria

I have tried very hard to avoid making posts on something I have little knowledge of or interest in. Something most Europeans and Aussies should consider.

Edit in: I just noticed you have honored me with your very first post. Let me welcome you as a really new member then congratulate you for knowing all about me on your first day of membership.

Let me suggest you familiarize yourself with forum rules and netiquette, particularly forum rule 24, which says...

24) Multiple accounts by the same person are not allowed. If you have access issues contact support at http://www.thaivisa.com/contact

I just did a google search for chuckd thaivisa.com and then i added for each search these terms respectively: israel, eurozone, uk, england. All except UK popped up multiple instances.

And, of course, you couldn't resist the ad hominem attack. True to form.

[up2u2]

You still don't get it.

Clinton's flaws are BAKED in.

Trump's stuff will be fresh and if you don't think there is lots of stuff on Trump ... I've got a bridge to sell you.

Heh...if there were any juicy dirt on Trump we'd have heard it already.

Desperation time, Jingthing?

HILLARY FEWER VOTES THAN '08...

Why would you waste your ammo on the wrong target. There will be 'dirt files' on ALL possible Republican candidates with the DNC. Trump's file will be bursting at the seams. I reckon there would be enough for 10 election cycles for Trump. He has two ex wives there's a whole room full of 'dirt files' right there. His business 'activities' will have 'dirt files' flooding out the lobby door.

Hold your fire....steady.....wait for it.........okay F I I I I I I I RREE!!!!! Got the little ginger weasel! lol

[Jingthing]

Exactly. The problem will not be lack of dirt, the problem will be which specific piles of dirt will have the most tactical benefit.

What do the republicans have?

Benghazi? Emails? Ancient cigar sex scandals with her husband?

Baked in. Can do no more damage.

Bring on the Trump ... what a wonderful ORANGE target!

[mopar71]

You still don't get it.

Clinton's flaws are BAKED in.

Trump's stuff will be fresh and if you don't think there is lots of stuff on Trump ... I've got a bridge to sell you.

Heh...if there were any juicy dirt on Trump we'd have heard it already.

Desperation time, Jingthing?

HILLARY FEWER VOTES THAN '08...

Democrats are very happy that republicans believe that.

Just wait. You'll see.

Well, Trump has been in the public eye longer than the Hillary and in New York City, not Little Rock, Arkansas. So there is a lot out there.

But maybe people don't remember it all. I can guarantee that 99% of anyone under 25 yrs who votes for Hillary has no idea what she has to do with cattle futures or Travelgate.

[Jingthing]

Big difference.

Hillary does have a long record as an elected official plus secretary of state.

Trump is new to politics.

That might be seen as a strength as no political record to criticize ... but alas, like I said, TONS of dirt about him waiting to EXPLOIT. Fresh smelly stinky stuff. Prepare for the roughest election in American history with Trump and the republican party left bloody on the floor.

People don't seem to believe that seeing Trump nominated is an amazing dream come true for the democratic party.

Just wait, you'll understand very well later.

Go Trump!

Edited May 1, 2016 by Jingthing

[Berty100]

You still don't get it.

Clinton's flaws are BAKED in.

Trump's stuff will be fresh and if you don't think there is lots of stuff on Trump ... I've got a bridge to sell you.

T. Boone Pickens: Hillary doesn’t know what she’s talking about Donald Trump is the best candidate for Oil: T. Boone Pickens

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/t--boone-pickens--hillary-doesn-t-know-what-she-s-talking-about-191535373.html#