webfact Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Thailand: Med-school exams cancelled after high-tech cheaters nabbedby Asian Correspondent StaffBANGKOK: -- AN entrance examination for a medical school was forcibly cancelled in Thailand on Sunday after three proxies were caught sitting in for candidates, using high-tech gadgetry such as spy glasses and smart watches to cheat in the papers.The Rangsit University (RSU) cancelled the exams to its college of medicine and two other faculties after it learned that proxies were sitting the exams in place of three candidates. The proxies had used devices that were provided by a syndicate.Following the discovery, the university has asked over 3,000 candidates to do a re-test scheduled for May 31 and June 1.Full story: https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/05/thailand-high-tech-cheating/-- ASIAN CORRESPONDENT 2016-05-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Surprise Surprise...Thai students cheat on exams ? Who would have guessed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The only surprising thing is that anything was done about it. For those posters unfamiliar with the Thai education system, cheating is absolutely the norm, the schools and colleges turn a blind eye or actively encourage it as it makes results look better and anyone trying to stop it is labelled mean and heartless or a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Jeez! If it wasn't bad enough that they supposedly made these entrance tests easier with less questions but Thais are still trying to cheat their way into schools! I hope they ban those students for life for doing this. I just hope my future doesn't require me to see any specialists to keep me alive. I wonder how Thailand thinks they could become the medical hub of ASEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Jeez! If it wasn't bad enough that they supposedly made these entrance tests easier with less questions but Thais are still trying to cheat their way into schools! I hope they ban those students for life for doing this. I just hope my future doesn't require me to see any specialists to keep me alive. I wonder how Thailand thinks they could become the medical hub of ASEA. Marketing Wearing starchy white uniforms and other medical-looking paraphernalia Speaking in a hard-to-understand but authoritative professional way with relaxed bedside manner Big private rooms with tv's and kitchens Insurance jobs - pump up that bill Asking how many times you have micturated and emptied your bowels as many times as possible and pretending to jot it down and also pretending it is important to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Fair go! They are only going to practice gender reassignment anyway, how wrong can they get it. If you arrive with an unwanted appendage, off it comes. If you arrive without one, it must be your follow up appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 This article reflects very poorly on the quality of doctors and medical professionals in this country, is there anything the locals take seriously enough to study for or is it everything for them is one big cheating games?........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 This article reflects very poorly on the quality of doctors and medical professionals in this country, is there anything the locals take seriously enough to study for or is it everything for them is one big cheating games?........ I was going to say the latter but, upon reflection, not towing the line in cock-fighting, sycophancy in the face of authority and sepak takraw are frowned upon here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Cheating is the norm here now. Anyone who doesnt cheat is the odd one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertHima Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Wow, 800.000 for an exam? That's a good career opportunity, write the exams instead of others as proxies.I wonder how they couldn't find anyone who could write the exam by herself for that kind of money, why did they have to hire someone to use gadgets to send out the questions to a 'committee' to solve them..Oh yeah, I know, cheating at exams is probably one of the jobs reserved for Thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse Twoccer Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) . For those posters unfamiliar with the Thai education system, cheating is absolutely the norm, the schools and colleges turn a blind eye or actively encourage it as it makes results look better... Apparently that's not the case as evidenced by this report which, obviously, has more credibility than your post. Edited May 9, 2016 by Scouse Twoccer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse Twoccer Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 This article reflects very poorly on the quality of doctors and medical professionals in this country, is there anything the locals take seriously enough to study for or is it everything for them is one big cheating games?........ The article is no reflection on the quality of doctors in this country at all, it does, however, reflect on the quality of 3 students though, that's all (unless you know that all doctors in this country cheated to become qualified and you don't know that, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 One way to handle this is to quietly call the suspect students out and say they have detected a medical condition that needs immediate review. Take them to an unused part of a hospital. Then let the kids overhear a faked conversation between an alleged new doctor where the new doctor talks about and brags about cheating on his entrance exams and that he really knows nothing at all about medicine. Then let the fake doctor come in and tell the kid cheater he needs immediate surgery, amputation, or some other drastic procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse Twoccer Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I was going to say the latter but, upon reflection, not towing the line in cock-fighting, sycophancy in the face of authority and sepak takraw are frowned upon here. "Towing" the line, geez. I sincerely hope that your comments do not indicate that you are involved in education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Record Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Surprise Surprise...Thai students cheat on exams ? Who would have guessed ! http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/jan/02/universities-catch-almost-50000-student-cheats Only in Thailand eh, why can't they be like the rest of us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) Not so bad. In India last year, 600 students were expelled for cheating on 10th grade exams. In one town, parents had climbed up the outside of a multistory building to pass answers into their children. Very low-tech. http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.3003183/indian-parents-scale-building-to-help-kids-cheat-on-exam-1.3003755 Edited May 9, 2016 by phoenixdoglover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 . For those posters unfamiliar with the Thai education system, cheating is absolutely the norm, the schools and colleges turn a blind eye or actively encourage it as it makes results look better... Apparently that's not the case as evidenced by this report which, obviously, has more credibility than your post. Another condescending, critical post from you. You specialise in them. My post is credible. I have worked in education in Thailand including a private university which is pertinent in this case. Have you? I have inviligated exams in Thailand at university level. Have you? I have caught people cheating. Have you? I have marked university papers in which mass cheating involving teachers has taken place. Have you? I have had conversations with a university rector in which he spelled out the unofficial policy of a passive response towards cheating. Have you? I have had numerous conversations with professionals in industry in Thailand detailing the extent of cheating in exams and the low standards of medical degrees from private universities. Have you? However, in terms of unsubstantiated, dismissive posts on Thaivisa, you are the uncontested expert. I doff my cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) "t learned that proxies were sitting the exams in place of three candidates" Don't even have the brains to cheat themselves. What is the world coming to... Mind, the proxies don't seem to bright either "At first, exam facilitators were not aware of the proxies’ ploy but suspected something was amiss when all three left the exam room simultaneously as soon as the 45-minute requirement lapsed." Edited May 9, 2016 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Horror of horrors Does that mean that the male doctor who stuck his finger up my bum to check my prostrate was not doing this because he was a doctor, but perhaps doing it just FOR FUN!!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Cheat or buy your way into becoming a doctor,and most likely other important professions,where judgement,honesty, and ethical values are paramount.sad day for Thailand and its people. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Some questions (don't cheat with these please) 1. Is there a member of university staff who benefits financially with the tutorial agency involved? (owner/shareholder etc?) 2. Do doctors in Thailand have a Medical Ethics Committee, and if so do they have a comment? A multiple choice question; 3. If you lift the corner of the carpet and find something nasty underneath, should you A Lift it higher and get a flashlight B Drop it again as soon as possible C Look for a bigger broom to get it further under D Threaten anyone who remarks on it with defamation and act like the injured party NB more than one of these answers may be correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 . For those posters unfamiliar with the Thai education system, cheating is absolutely the norm, the schools and colleges turn a blind eye or actively encourage it as it makes results look better... Apparently that's not the case as evidenced by this report which, obviously, has more credibility than your post. Another condescending, critical post from you. You specialise in them. My post is credible. I have worked in education in Thailand including a private university which is pertinent in this case. Have you? I have inviligated exams in Thailand at university level. Have you? I have caught people cheating. Have you? I have marked university papers in which mass cheating involving teachers has taken place. Have you? I have had conversations with a university rector in which he spelled out the unofficial policy of a passive response towards cheating. Have you? I have had numerous conversations with professionals in industry in Thailand detailing the extent of cheating in exams and the low standards of medical degrees from private universities. Have you? However, in terms of unsubstantiated, dismissive posts on Thaivisa, you are the uncontested expert. I doff my cap. I can only agree with you! I thought it was bad enough when I was not allowed to fail students while teaching in Thai high school but after 1 semester teaching "Business Ethics" and "International Business Relations" at 2 private universities in BKK I resigned and went back at my roots instead... I grew up on a farm so now I teach agricultural subjects in English instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 So the daddy credit card and the threats to stop "subventions" for the school do not work anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just what I want. Open heart surgery by a doctor who hired someone to sit his medical exam for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Hope all the cheating graduates get to treat All the "so called " HI-So's in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Surprise Surprise...Thai students cheat on exams ? Who would have guessed ! They do NOT have to cheat. All they do is pay sopme money and BINGO! Certificate handed to them by one of the Royal Family and THANK YOU KA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIBATCH Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Trust us....we are Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The only surprising thing is that anything was done about it. For those posters unfamiliar with the Thai education system, cheating is absolutely the norm, the schools and colleges turn a blind eye or actively encourage it as it makes results look better and anyone trying to stop it is labelled mean and heartless or a lot worse. Spot on Briggsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 for those of you who look at the Thai healthcare system through rose tinted spectacles - think on......... how many of you practitioners are actually properly qualified???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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